Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
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Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY



Wish I new! Unfortianatley the original owners son in law of my car thru
the
crank out. I used a '58  crank, since it listed as an interchange. The '58
LP2 crank I used was forged. I am still a believer that the '58 could
possibly be a better crank. I never new of any throwing rods.
       A man I now that had a '58 from almost new took it in for service
and
the mechanic took it for a ride and blew the hood open!!
              Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "eddee" <eddee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY


> Paul and Brian
> Looks like the FLP8 and FP31 are pretty similiar after all.  Certainly
different crank ,,,,,,but rods,,,,who knows,,,maybe Chrysler will advise
at
some point.
>
> Just for the heck of it-was the 57 crank forged or shotpeened or even
crossdrilled to make it 'better' than the 58 and later cranks???
> ED
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Paul A. Schmidt
>   To: goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:34 PM
>   Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
>
>
>   Eddie
>         My book shows '58 Fury with 318 same piston part # as '57 Fury.
#1818
>   597. They are listed in seperate columns bur same #.
>           The crank we agree on. Numbers that I posted earlier.
>            The rods 56-57 Fury #1732 853
>                  Also listed 56-58 LP2, LP2 Fury w318  #1618 697,
FOOTNOTE 1
>                       P29 from engine #1001-40000 &80001 - 250000 and
after
>   P29-274101.
>                 Since a '57 is after the P29 wich rod does it
take????????
>                             Paul
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "eddee" <eddee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   To: <goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:35 PM
>   Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
>
>
>   > Paul
>   > Let me give you the p/ns that I have for the FP31 only (supposedly)
Maybe
>   you can put this to rest.
>   >
>   > P/N 1732-853     for 57 FURY AND 56 FURY 303 only       Con Rods (
ie:
no
>   58  318)
>   > P/N 1732-611     For 57 FURY only     CRANK
>   > P/N 1818-597     For 57 FURY only     Piston  std
>   >
>   > All of the other P/Ns seem to be common
>   > ED
>   >
>   >
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Paul A. Schmidt
>   >   To: goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   >   Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:56 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
>   >
>   >
>   >   According to my MOPAR parts book, the pistons and rods are the
same
part
>   #
>   >   '57-'58, only the crank # changed.
>   >                           Paul
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: "eddee" <eddee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   >   To: <goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   >   Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:57 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
>   >
>   >
>   >   > Brian
>   >   > I think most of the 57/58 Polys had bottom end troubles. I
remember my
>   58
>   >   Poly Fury in 1966,,with those solid lifters and cam and carbs I
would
>   wind
>   >   that up like a top,,,62 MPH in 1st.  So I think a lot of the Polys
had
>   >   trouble due to their own characterists.
>   >   >
>   >   > As far as internals for the FLP8 and FP31,,, this is 2nd hand
>   info,,but
>   >   semi confirmed. I have also talked to Chrysler about it,,no
response
>   >   yet.....
>   >   >
>   >   > Forgetting about the cam, carbs, distrib etc which were same....
>   >   > The FP31 seems to have had its own crank,rods, piston which the
FLP8
>   did
>   >   not have.
>   >   > Certainly they would interchange, but why were these parts
specific to
>   the
>   >   57 FURY and in 58 they appear to be just common to other 318s???
>   >   > Were the FP 31 pieces forged instead of cast?? or were the rods
and
>   crank
>   >   shotpeened??
>   >   > or were they pre balanced?? or was the difference B.S.?
>   >   >
>   >   > I hope Chrysler tells me some day.      ED
>   >   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   From: Brian Wittling
>   >   >   To: goldenfin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:03 PM
>   >   >   Subject: [GFS] Re: 58/57 FURY
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   >   --- In goldenfin@xxxx, eddee <eddee@xxxx> wrote:
>   >   >   > I understand your quest for origionality!!!  I feel the
>   >   >   same!!,,,but don't down play the FP31.  Many believe it was
truly
>   >   >   a 'stronger ' built engine than the FLP8.  Keep us advised
ED
>   >   >
>   >   >   Hi Ed,
>   >   >
>   >   >   I would never downplay the FP31! It's just disheartening in
that
if
>   I
>   >   >   had known the car wasn't "all original" I may not have been so
>   >   >   adamant about the transmission rebuild I just went through...
I
>   >   >   could have just swapped out my trashed t-flite for a better
one,
or
>   >   >   an "off the shelf" rebuild, instead of going through the pains
of a
>   >   >   $2,600 rebuild... which had to be done twice!
>   >   >
>   >   >   I thought the FP31 and FLP were identical motors...  is there
any
>   >   >   refferences you can guide me to, to compare them?
>   >   >
>   >   >   thanks,
>   >   >   Brian
>   >   >
>   >   >
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