RE: IML: Starter in a '66 Coupe

[RandalPark@xxxxxxx]

On my '68, it turned out that the problem was the smaller wire to the starter. It has a break someplace inside the harness. I finally made a jumper from the relay to the smaller terminal on the starter and the car starts everytime now. I think this had been an intermitant problem for previous owners for many years. I also don't think that any one ever figured it out. There were two rebuilt starters and four new relays, plus a used ignition switch stored in the trunk.

Paul

In an email dated 25/4/2005 5:50:11 am GMT Daylight time, "Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

>I missed the start of this discussion, but have you ever found out what the
>guy meant by "flat spot"? ?
>
>Reason I ask is that 60's and later Mopars are famous for having problems
>with the starter relay, and the cure is simple, cheap and easy. ?The
>diagnosis is also simple, free and easy. ?
>
>If your symptom is that there is no reaction at all, or merely a "click"
>when you turn the key, then you need to bypass the relay to see if that will
>make the starter crank. ?If your problem is the common Mopar starter relay
>failure, the car will start right up when you do this (if the key is on),
>and you know you need to replace the relay, which will set you back all of
>$30 MAX.
>
>The two points to short together are the battery + terminal and the large
>wire that leaves the relay to go down to the starter. ?I believe the second
>wire is brown, and at least a #12, or maybe even a #10 - it's BIG, anyway.
>(I'm color blind, so don't trust me on the color, but it is the only BIG
>wire on the relay.) ?You can also do this with a properly positioned
>screwdriver, but if you don't know which terminals to short, a jumper wire
>is easier to figure out. ?This will draw a spark when you do this, but it
>can't hurt you, it's only 12 volts!
>
>If your symptom is something other than this (like for instance the starter
>spins but doesn't engage the ring gear), then don't bother about this, your
>problem is in the starter or ring gear.
>
>Dick Benjamin
>
>
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>
>Went to pick up my '66 Imperial Crown Coupe after the tranny was rebuilt,
>and it wouldn't start. Mechanic said perhaps the starter had ?"a flat spot"
>What does this mean? He suggested if that was the case then eventually I
>would need to replace it. Now, my car is stock. And I'm guessing that a
>rebuilding the stock starter will cost more than a modern replacement. Is
>this a part I can rebuilt myself? What specifically might be the bad
>component within the starter?
>
>
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