RE: IML: 71 carb problem

From: "Robin Giesbrecht" <robings@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:11:50 -0700

I will tell you what I would do. Whether you want to follow is your choice but:

Put a vacuum gauge on it and see what manifold vacuum it pulls. It should be close to 20. Set the timing to get max vacuum. If you cannot get 15 then there is a vacuum problem which must be sorted out. If vacuum is good and timing has been set to achieve max vacuum take it out and load the engine(uphill at about 50 mph in third) and see if it pings. If it does back off the timing till the pinging stops.That is where you want to be with timing. If it is an AVS carb is the air valve for the secondaries free? Just move it to the open position and let it close by spring pressure. Should be smooth movement and should be fully closed at idle. Has anyone played with the adjustment for the secondary air valve spring? This is a very easy adjustment and critical for any wide open throttle performance. If the adjustment is off for any reason the car will run like crap or not at all when you open the secondaries.Thermoquad has a very similar arrangement. Super tuning and Modifying Carter Carbs by Car Tech is a pretty good book for reference.

Robin Giesbrecht
72 Imperial

From: Bruce Stubblefield <audiblefeast@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: IML: 71 carb problem
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:18:23 -0700 (PDT)

Hello list,
   The mighty 71 four-door (440) refuses to bend to
repair attempts.  The shop and I have spent a lot of
time on this, but no soap.  The mechanic I'm using is
an older guy who is quite familiar with old
carburetted cars.  Though clearly not a brilliant
diagnostician, he's solved a number of other problems
on the car.
     The symptoms:  From a standing start or from
coasting at 0 to about 5 mph, flooring the accelerator
results in "backfire" popping out the top of the carb,
stalling or almost stalling.  A slower, more gradual
acceleration does not show this problem.  Also,  car
surges or bucks intermittently on hard acceleration
from a stop under a load, as in accelerating up a
normal freeway onramp leading to an elevated road.
   In the last month or so, new plugs, spark plug
wires and electronic distributor (mopar performance)
have all been fitted.  Scopes both in shop and onboard
show normal electrical performance.   Timing is
perhaps 5 or 8 degrees retarded.  Aside from this
problem, runs fine on 87 octane regular.  I also
frequently run 91 octane premium.
    Carb (Carter, not a thermoquad)  was just rebuilt,
with a new accelerator pump done twice, with no
improvement.  The shop found a service bulletin in an
old 69-72 Mitchells  book which described a similar
problem and gave a solution of re-boring some holes in
the carb and changing some of the metering needles.
Carb shop did this per the service bulletin, to no
effect.  Mufflers and resonators are new.
     Has anyone solved a problem like this?   Do I
have to buy a modern carb?

Many thanks, all you geniuses.

Bruce  S
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> Subject: Re: IML: Stowing jack in a '59.
> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:44:03 -0700
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> This part should be an easy find from one of the
> used parts vendors listed,
> since it was used for so many years.
> John
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> > Hi,
> >
> > I remember my 1969 Dodge Coronet (and earlier
> cars) had a coil spring
> > that
> > attached to a loop in the floor and to the tab on
> the jack that fits into
> > the
> > bumper.
> >
> > To stow the jack, you lower the jack on the
> notched post so that the
> > spring will
> > reach when you set the jack in place.  Then you
> jack it up until there is
> > enough tension on the spring to hold the jack
> secure.
> >
> > To remove, just reverse the jack and jack it down
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> > The spring is a separate part used only for
> holding the jack in place.
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> > Dan Wing
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> > From: "jsadowski" <jsadowski@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: IML: Bumper Jack Stowage in Trunk -
> 59 Imperial
> > Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 20:14:34 -0700
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> > There is a spring that attaches in a loop in the
> floor & the other end
> > attaches at the part of the jack that raises. I
> believe these are all the
> >
> > same at least back to 59 & through 66.
> > John
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> >> The tensions spring is a separate piece.
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> >> Paul W.
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> >> In an email dated 3/9/2005 8:08:07 pm GMT
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> >>>The restoration of my '59 Imperial is nearing
> completion and I'm trying
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