Re: Re: IML: 413 vs 440 in a 64 Crown/65 LeBaron

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To each his own.  I see no problem with running the 440.  I like the 413 but would not hesitate to install a 440.
> 
> From: commenace@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: 2005/10/06 Thu AM 11:14:02 EDT
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> Subject: Re: IML: 413 vs 440 in a 64 Crown/65 LeBaron
> 
> I pulled my spent 413 and found a 440 with a steel crank, rebuilt it to 
> my specs (all low end torque, 9.5 compression), and I love it.  Only 
> the most learned gearhead can tell it's a 440 by the stamping on the 
> top of the block.  I know the purists will think me foolish, but I like 
> driving my car, and I like driveablitly.  I know they'll say a 413 will 
> perform just as well as a 440.  Perhaps, but not a 440 built to my 
> specs.  It's not a hot rod engine, but when I want to pass someone, I 
> feel justified in what I did.
> 
> Just my two cents (that's about what it's worth!)
> John in LA
> (and yes that IS in Los Angeles)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pnkmoore@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Sent: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:10:04 -0500
> Subject: Re: IML: 413 vs 440 in a 64 Crown
> 
>     It's hardly my business to say it Mark, but I may be with Pete in PA 
> on this one. If the 440 ain't broke, why fix it? I can undertand if 
> you're a purist because I can be that way too, but I'd give myself a 
> break in that regard before I'd trade out a motor. I think the 440s are 
> wonderful engines.?
> ?
>  Patrick in LA (and no, that's not Los Angeles)?
> ?
>   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Engel" 
> <peter.engel@xxxxxxxxxxx>?
>  To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>?
>  Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:39 PM?
>  Subject: Re: IML: 413 vs 440 in a 64 Crown?
> ?
>   There is no difference in external dimensions between a 413 and a 440. 
> If?
>  the guy who installed the 440 used all the 413 manifolds, oil pan,?
>   accessories, brackets, etc. then your swap back to a 413 will be a 
> breeze.?
> ?
>   If, OTOH, the 440 was installed used all the manifolds, etc. from the 
> 440?
>  and it was a much later engine then you will have some heartburn.?
> ?
>   Why bother removing the 440 to put in a 413? The engines look 
> identical?
>   from the outside. Is the 440 shot and you'd rather have a 413 under 
> the?
>  hood? Is the 440 a late production, low compression engine??
> ?
>  Pete in PA?
> ?
>  ?
>  Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:27:09 -0600?
>  From: Mark and Theresa Elliott <deadfishe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>?
>  Subject: IML: 413 vs 440 in a 64 crown?
>  Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?
>  Hey all you mechanical experts,?
> ?
>  What would one need to do to change out the 413 in a 64 Crown to a?
>  440? What things would need to change/be replaced etc. I am not asking?
>   this because I am contemplating doing it, on the contrary, I am 
> thinking?
>   about undoing it. A previous owner did this to my car, and I am 
> wondering?
>  what it would take to undo this and put a 413 back in. Would I need to?
>  replace all my accessories like the alternator, AC compressor, starter?
>   etc? How about the radiator? Would it just be a matter of pulling out 
> the?
>   440 and dropping in the 413, or would I need new motor mounts (I may 
> need?
>  them anyway). How about the transmission, would anything need to be?
>  changed there??
> ?
>  Thanks for your input,?
> ?
>  Mark Elliott?
>  64 Crown 4 door (currently with a 440 under the hood)?
> ?
>  ?
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