Re: IML: 69 Windshield Replacement
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Re: IML: 69 Windshield Replacement



I think the labor is around $300. I don't know if they figured that based on the 66 windshield or the 69. Fortunately, my insurance is covering it. On the 66 vinyl top, I think the roof trim is different from the non vinyl. I know 64 is for sure & am guessing that 64-66 shared the same trim. The trim piece above the side glass is shaped different to hide the metal strip that screws into the roof to hold the vinyl. I think the hardest part of installing is getting the seams straight. I had a 64 Crown Coupe & watched them put the top on & they seemed to be struggling with it. ----- Original Message ----- From: <dansgarage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "john sadowski" <jsadowski@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 69 Windshield Replacement


Hi John! Sorry you are having such a hard time getting the windshield for your '69!!! Hopefully "third time is the charm!", will be true! By the way, I forgot to ask you if the next time you are talking with your 'glass shop' you would kindly ask them WHERE IN CALIFORNIA ( and from who) they had got the windshield for a '66 that they had originally sent you instead of one for your '69. I am following with interest your 'adventure' about replacing the vinyl roof on your car. My '66 LeBAron does not have the vinyl roof and I was considering adding one sometime in the future.....my old '66 Crown, my 'daily-driver' back in the 70's, was the same Deep Plum color as this LeBaron but had the black vinyl top and I really liked the 'limo-like' look of the car with the vinyl top! BUT, having said that I am not sure that adding a vinyl top is something I would want to try myself, but , ya never know!!!! I'd love to hear any comments about doing something like that (adding a vinyl top) to a vehicle that didn't originally have one.....bad-idea??? good-idea??? I also am curious as to what the cost is to change out the front windshield itself?....meaning 'labor' not including the cost of the windshield.....!
Good Luck and hopefully the next window will get there in one piece!!!!
Dan Melnik


---- john sadowski <jsadowski@xxxxxxx> wrote:

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The adventure continues. I first got a windshield for a 66. The correct one arrived this week. Unfortunately it broke in transit. Another one is on the way.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: Frederick Joslin
 To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:57 PM
 Subject: Re: IML: 69 Windshield Replacement


 Hi John:

I am in the long process of replacing the vinyl roof on my 69 LeBaron 2 door. I was aware of some rust at the front of the roof, but did not think that there was any around the window frame or anywhere else.

It turns out that there was quite a bit of rust around the front window frame, especially at the trim clip screws and both A pillars were rusted out near the top under the seam in the vinyl roof. Also, the factory body filler at both seams at the top of the C pillars was somewhat flaky and too easy to remove with some rust undernearth. I also had rust under the rear window insert all the way across the back with several parts rusted through.

The trim clips screw into the window frame. You cannot get behind for bolts. Just about every one of my clips was rusted beyond reuse with a variable size rust hole asociated with each. I am surprised that the trim did not come out by itself. Probably held on by rust

I would suggest doing what I did which is remove the roof and front and rear windows and get out the grinder and remove all rust you can find. It is not especially hard or time consuming since you are working with a relatively small area. Get the right tools.

I used the epoxy type body fillers to fill everything around the front window frame after a good metal prep. I think that these are easier to use in this type of small area irregular application and better than "Bondo". I know that steel is best followed by lead, but I think that this will work. I re-bondoed the seams at the top of the C pillars and steel panelled and bondoed the area under the rear insert.

Note that if you replace the vinyl roof you should remove the glass window from the rear fiberglass insert. The vinyl roof goes on before the windows are installed. This is probably a good idea anyway since it appears that a leak at a bad seal in my back window led to the rust under the insert. There was some headliner material caught in the rubber sealing of the back window at a bottom corner, I am guessing from the factory.

If you do not want to do the repairs yourself, you could at least do the rust removal. This would take care of much of the work and remove ambiguity about how much actually needed to be repaired when you take it to the repair shop.

BTW: I have found some trim clips at the local General Store which I think will work. I do not have any originals to compare them to! They are in a "WeePack" and something like 6 or 8 for $2. It seems expensive for what they are, but for these cars is actually incredible cheap.

 Game 3 of the World series is on right now. I am rooting for St. Louis

 These cars throw more curve balls than a World Series starter

 Good luck




   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "john sadowski"
   To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
   Subject: IML: 69 Windshield Replacement
   Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:13:46 -0700


Well, I thought I was going to get the windshield replaced in my 69 today. Turns out, the glass shop ordered one for a 66 instead. They located a correct one in California & will have it here in about a week. The shop manager was a little negative about replacing it due to the rust in the header. He says it will leak & could fly out in an accident. He also said he would have to glue the trim back on because of the rust. if I'm not mistaken, the clips bolt through to the inside of the car & not slid into the metal lip & the moldings press onto them? He is asking me to sign a waiver in case anything like that happens. I would get the roof fixed if I knew of a reliable shop here in the Phoenix area. I don't want to spend a fortune & have it turn out poor.
   John



Fred Joslin



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