Re: IML: 66LeBaron-turn the key...and nothing!

[randalpark@xxxxxxx]

Both my '60's and my '63 have done the same thing and it turned out to 
be the Neutral Safety Switch on the transmission. My '68 did it due to 
a bad wire (corroded inside) to the starter.

Paul W.

-----Original Message-----
From: jdlpdx@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 66LeBaron-turn the key...and nothing!

Back in the days when I was using my 60 Imperial as a daily driver it 
started doing the same thing as you describe - no pattern, just when 
ever it felt like it. It turned out to be a bad ground cable. It looked 
OK but was bad in the center.

Jim in OR
----- Original Message ----- From: <dansgarage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: IML: 66LeBaron-turn the key...and nothing!

Hi all...I'm going to throw this out to the whole group while I am 
trying to troubleshoot the problem myself (as you read this I'll be 
checking and measuring).

Note: several times in the previous 2 months or so, after my '66 
LeBaron had been running just fine and I stopped for either lunch or 
gas or whatever, the car wouldn't turn over at all. Turn the key 
and....nothing!? I found some loose wires on the battery and the 
starter-relay, which I fixed and thought that was that!...car ran great 
till Thursday afternoon...I was checking the trans fluid, letting the 
car warm up (in neutral) and checked the brake fluid (topped it off) 
all in prep to make a trip to Temecula to visit Dick Benjamin and his 
friend Rich (who paints cars!). I shut off the engine, waited 5 minutes 
to let the oil settle and measured the level which was fine!....turned 
the key to start the car again and...nothing! no radio no lights, but 
the windows and interior courtesy lights work OK. One other 
thing....when the car was still running I had opened the trunk twice 
(using the glove-box button) to get the can of brake fluid out of the 
trunk ...and then to replace it again. The engine was still running 
just fine throughout this time. After shutting the engine off and 
checking the oil is when the 'no start' problem started.

Before this, the Ammeter gauge worked fine! ...now, its shows stuck at 
CHARGE about 1/4 way to the right! possibly the needle is 
stuck??......The gauge shows this same reading even with the battery 
disconnected!
...one other thing, the ignition had been 'loose' since I got the car 
last year and sometimes I have to 'jiggle' the key to get it to turn to 
the right to start the car or sometimes to get the key to come out of 
the ignition.

..First thing I did was order a new starter-relay from Kragen Auto 
Parts which arrived the next day (Friday) and I installed it BUT, no 
change in symptoms at all!!!! Since i ordered TWO starter-relays at the 
time (one for a spare) I even changed to the second relay but still no 
change in the problem at all! Still get nothing when turning the key! I 
also tried moving the trans thru different gears to be sure it was in 
PARK...and I also tried NEUTRAL as well, but no change.
I was trying to trace out the wires to see what might be the cause and 
noticed that the 'trunk lid release' button is in there associated 
somehow with the wires from the starter-relay (that is IF I am reading 
the diagram right!)....then I vaguely remembered someone on the IML, 
maybe last year, having a problem with the electrical system that 
finally was located in the trunk-release button (in the glove box, if I 
remember right) that caused the problem.........does anyone remember 
this???....was it really the trunk-release button?...or is my memory 
playing tricks again!?

Anyway, while I will be continuing to try and find the problem, any 
suggestions or hints or 'experience solving this kind of a problem' is 
GREATLY appreciated!!!
Right now I am going to go and check all the fuses again and then....? 
maybe go sacrifice a chicken so the 'gremlins' will go away!!
Thanks all!
Dan Melnik
66 convertible
66 LeBaron


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