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Washington State had an initiative a couple years ago for $30
per year license tabs, instead of the then current percentage of value. I
voted against it, because someone has to pay for roads, and it might as well be
the guy with a Hummer, new Jaguar, new SUV or expensive whatever. The
initiative passed overwhelmingly. The WA Supreme Court overruled it, but
the politicos could tell where their bread was buttered and re-enacted
it.
The Dep't of Licensing then must have stayed up nights
thinking of ways to increase their revenue. We now pay tonnage on cars as
well as trucks. It amounts to about $18 yearly on a compact car, plus the
$30 tab fee.
Also, the fair market value is established to pay sales tax on
a new purchase, no matter what you paid. If you don't like it, you still
have to pay it, then appeal to tax court.
Myself, I don't have a problem with the sales tax. [Here
it's a one-time tax; does not effect renewal tabs.] If you want to own a $50,000
vehicle you should be prepared to pay tax on it. What bothers me is using
a blue book or some such guide to establish fair market value.
Another little money-grubbing matter; dealer/ manufacturer
rebates are not counted, even the ones that go to the dealer; you pay tax on the
full price.
Yet another dealers' association back-scratching item; if you
trade in a car to a WA dealer you only pay sales tax on the difference, but if
you sell your old car yourself you have to pay full sales tax on the newer car
purchase.
--Roger van Hoy, Washougal, WA, '55 DeSoto, '58 DeSoto, '56
Plymouth, '66 Plymouth, '41 Dodge
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 3:05
PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] property taxes/old
cars
Once upon a time, Calyfornua taxing system went as follows. You buy
a new car and basically pay a 3 percent registration rate plus their pound of
flesh sales tax of over 8 percent. Each year the car would depreciate
some and the tax would decrease. Therefore a really old car could go
down in value to the point where your annual registration fee could be quite
modest, and if you should sell the car, this depreciated value would carry to
the new owner.
Some years back, some thieving, miserable socialist decided this was not
fair to the downtrodden and found a method to extort another pound of
flesh to support Caly's insatiable demand for monies to fund more vote
buying pet projects. Now when you sell your car, the new owner must
reset the clock to what he paid you for the car. So a Corvette that sold
new in 1967 for say 5,000.00 and was owned for 50 years and now sells for
100,000.00 is annually taxed at a value of 100,000.00 to the new
owner and begins to depreciate from there until it is sold again.
And of course the buyer must pay over an 8 percent sales tax on this
100k. Gets expensive in annual taxes to own an old car or 2. And
if you do not register it to drive it on the streets each year, you must still
pay an out of service annual tax. So the best deal now is never to
sell an older car to replace with another older car. Kinda curbs the
collector car trading market. And some wonder why many have contempt
for our politicos!
Oh Christ, I just gone and lost my head again.
Roger Schaaf
71 Corvette that I have owned 35 years and 300 B that I have owned for 23
years. Might love to do some trading around, but will not.
What a way to run an economy!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:45
AM
Subject: [FWDLK] property taxes/old
cars
In North Carolina an annual property tax must be paid on every vehicle.
It matters not whether the car is usable or licensed. . A special
"book" is kept in the state capitol which gives the local assessor the
"correct rate" at which to tax your old car. The book assumes every old car,
including that rusted out old Model A in the wood behind your house is
a restored model. Appeal is virtually impossible, as I stated in another
post a few minutes ago. One must go to Raleigh with a hired lawyer after
filing a petition and formally present your appeal to a tax appeal board.
This is what I was told by letter when I protested my tax bill.
As mentioned above, the tax is an ANNUAL one, and though it decreases
slightly each year on new cars, it increases on "antique" models.
I have many friends who "hoard" old parts cars "out back" that are in
great fear of the tax assessors finding their ":stash." Especially so since
they have begun using aircraft to spot these vehicles. North Carolina is NOT
a tax friendly state to homeowners or old car lovers. And yet each year I
receive an "invitation" to enter my 55 Imperial in the annual Christmas
Parade. For free, of course.
Oh yes-fail to pay the tax on that "junker" out back and they will
refuse to license your regular driver.
Ted ( who would get the h--ll out of here if someone would
buy his house!!)
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