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While I planned to be there, it turned out that I couldn't. I still wish I had come. As a few have mentioned, they saw old friends, and met "List" friends. As we say in the Chrysler 300 Int'l Club, "We come for the cars, but we stay for the people". We all correspond with many different people with different makes/models on the list, but it must have been great to meet everyone and swapped stories 'til the wee hours of the mornings.
Ray


On Jun 17, 2007, at 6:56 PM, willbarq@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

The reality is that the supply of cars are shrinking from this era. Everyday the "restoration" hobby becomes more and more a rich man sport with profit as the main motivator. You would not believe the number of everyday Joes who consider these vehicles out of reach financially and impractical to own because you can't "drive or use" them. When I drive my piece of **** Newport anywhere other than around my hometown it might as well be a Ferrari.

-- John McCann <jmccann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It was sad to see the condition of Miss Belvedere but, thanks to the event many people were able to see the many fine restored vehicles that came to the event, not just Plymouths but the whole Chrysler line from the mid fifties. I wonder if some of the youngsters attending the show might have been bitten by the restoration bug and will preserve the fifties for a few more generations.
John
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From: Mopar Mel
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Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 12:16 PM
Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car Connection


Just my two cents,,,  I wished they would have never put the car in a capsual, I wished they would have just given it away in 57 to someone,,, it’s a crying shame to see this car in this condition…  such a thing of beauty when it was new…there is no reason it couldn’t have been brought out just as it was put in…   it can never be brought back to its original new condition… not that it cant be restored but its just too bad …. I cant believe that the people of Tulsa who done this  wouldn’t  have studied things a little bit better like water table and leak proof, at lease with drain tile so that NO water would have stayed in.  The concept is fantastic but the planning was done by someone who didn’t think very well..  I personally think my 10 yr. old granddaughter would have thought things thru better then they did. Its just such a crying shame…  Id rather do a fire damage car than a water damage car… just everything is shot…  there is just NO reason why this car couldn’t have been brought out, drained out the fluids, and started up on the spot, and driven away.  It makes me cry when I look at these photos,,, I was feeling very bad that I didn’t go to Tulsa to watch this fantastic advent. But Im glad I didn’t waste the gas now.  .I would have been so angry to see this in person. Its great that the people who went to support the mopar side of the world but,, Im not disappointed that I didn’t go personally.  I think I would have cried…….

 

Just my 2 cents worth

 

mel

 

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From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Stragand
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:47 AM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car Connection

 

I would echo the "no restoration" sentiment, and it is by far the prevailing opinion of all we talked to.

Tulsa does not have any plans to do any restoration or cleaning of the car at this time.

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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:11:18
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Subject: Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car
        Connection

 

In a message dated 6/17/2007 6:44:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wbh@xxxxxxxxx writes: "Looks to me like Tulsa and surrounds were flooded on a regular basis

up until the 1990s.

http://www.cityoftulsa.org/CityServices/FloodControl/History.asp

 

It also looks like the courthouse is only a half mile or less from The Arkansas River."
 
 
With all due respect to the citizens of the area, it seems to me that they MUST have known AT LEAST of the PROBABILITY of flooding, and I would guess that the public officials at the time cared only about the immediate short-term benefits of publicity.  It's the old "100 years from now, nobody will know the difference" syndrome.

 
Unfortunately for them, our print and film media caught up with them.  Likely they're all gone by now, but hope that if any are still around, someone thinks to ask "What were you thinking? !!!"

 
While I'm up on my soapbox:  I keep reading of people remarking that "It could be restored."  No, no, a thousand times no!  It should be preserved as it is (After a wash job) in a dry location (The Chrysler Museum?) as a memento of this event.  It is unique.  To restore it would make it into just another restored car.  I already have one of those in my garage.

 
I'll step down, now.
 
Joe Savard
Lake Orion, Michigan



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