Re: [FWDLK] ...I Ain't afraid of no Ghosts ...Revisit
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I had a 1958 DeSoto Firesweep w/350 2bbl. and Powerflite in the early 60s.  It wasn't a match for the 327 Chevies in the quarter mile, but it never got passed above 30.  As I recall, it was capable of 17 second quarter miles times. 


Here is my question, how come the standing start mile speeds are so low, actually comparable to some quarter mile times?  We used to race on an abandoned AF strip, about 2-2.5 miles in length.  My old DeSoto was well over 100 mph indicated by half way.  Even giving a 20 mph error in the speedo, it was faster than the posted times for the Dodges.  Something seems off?

Bill Huff

.......BTW, the times of the two amateurs, who drove the 57 D501's at Daytona 
are  : Edward Lyons; Flying Mile:
129.753 , and Elton Lyle ; Standing Mile :  84.408

Both men ran-whut-they-brung, and both finished fourth (out of 5-recognised placings) in their two
classes.

Danny Eames FACTORY-SUPPORTED 1956 Standing Mile time was 81.786mph (HR, 5/56; pg.18)

SO: of the two amateurs, one got beaten by a pro, by less than 1mph, and the other one BEAT the
pro, by about 3mph.

Let's move-on, to "Sports Cars Illustrated" (later to become Car & Driver, and issues 8/56 & 7/57 ).

SCI recorded 10.1 & 9.6  0-60 times, on a CRL 2-dr, in "Drive" & "Low", and with 1/4 times of 17.6 & 17.2
with 79mph & 81mph, respectively.

In 1957, a Coronet D500 2-dr  was tested, and it  weighed-in at 3,920lbs, with 58/42 weight distribution.

Although riding on the  SMALLEST  (stock) tires: 7.50x14"  [8.00 & 8.50's were optional, and ALL
of the 56 D500s rode on 7.60x15" tires]  the testers recorded  8.5 seconds 0-60and a 1/4 mile time
of 16.6 seconds.  The trap speed was 83mph.

That means that a standard Coro D500, on skinny tires  scored  e.t's 
that were  virtually as fast as a full-on
1956 (apparently: single 4-bbl, but who knows?) drag race car (running 4.56 gearing!).

Now, we turn to "Mechanix Illustrated" (issues 12/55 & 4/57).

Uncle Tom was not a real stickler of recording statistical documentation. He shot-from-the-hip,
and only mentioned 0-60 times.

For 1956, U.T. states that he got 10.4 0-60 out of a CRL 2-dr., AND , for the 1956 die-hards, who
only remember their Speedo-times) he states that the car's speedo-error was 11% too-fast, and that the 10.4
time was 'with'  a corrected speedometer.

In 1957, the CRL 2-dr recorded  8.7 seconds 0-60, and its speedo error was 59.1 , at an indicated 60mph.

Finally (sorta!) , and altho I'm sure that your home libraries include this, I'm going to reference my issue
of CONSUMER REPORTS (9/56 ; no '57+  D500 road tests, alas) which did a comprehensive testing
on (yet again, a different car!) with 10.4 second (sound familiar?) 0-60 and with, drumroll, please........
an 18.2 SECOND quarter mile recorded : "....all gears used to maximum advantage".

Their car weighed in at 3,875lbs, with 56/44 distribution. Their car was running an optional 3.54 gear  ratio,
but, that's pretty-close to the standard 3.73 ratio.

Believe it or not: I'm getting tired of all this.

Tomorrow, I'll discuss some other post-1957 performance times, and you can determine for yourselves whether
or not a 1956 315c.i. Dodge Hemi (with 2-speed auto, or 3-speed manual transmission) could out drag them!


Neil Vedder

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