Re: [FWDLK] A Little Tidbit on A/C
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Re: [FWDLK] A Little Tidbit on A/C



And, the very-first car to have "conditioned air" (hence the derivation
of the term) was (on) the 1938 Nash, which drew in fresh outside air in
combination with pressurized hot-water, which was thermostatically controlled
to provide a regulatible automotive interior temperature.

It is essentially the same heating/ventilation system which is used in all modern cars.

Their heating/ventilation system was called "Weather-All Conditioned Air", and its development was an adjunct of Nash's ownership of the Kelvinator (Refrigerator)
Company.

Neil Vedder




Bill Watson wrote:
1940 was the first year for Packard with Cadillac and Chrysler in 1941. The units for all three makes were from Bishop and Babcock, Cleveland, Ohio. Very few Chryslers were built with A/C in 1941 and 1942, and would not be offered again until 1954.

By the way, the brothers Goldberg could not have spoken with Henry Ford in 1946. The U.S. goverment was so concerned about the mental stability of Henry I that his grandson, Henry II, was released from the U.S. Navy in 1945. On 21st September of that year, Henry II assumed the office of President of the Ford Motor Company with all the powers of the office, unlike his father, Edsel, who basically was president in name only.

Thus the Goldbergs, if the story was true, would have met with Henry II, a man not noted for anti-Semiticism.

Bill
Vancouver, BC



----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Sutherland
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I normally trust Collectible Automobile as a very well researched publication, but I thought Packard offered air-conditioning in 1938 as an option on the 1939 model cars.

Lancer Mike




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Chrysler was not the first brand to have onboard air conditioning; that honor goes to Packard, in 1940, and then to Cadillac, in 1941. Chrysler offered air conditioning in 1942, and three 1942 DeSotos with the system are known to exist, according to Collectible Automobile (February 2007 issue).
http://www.allpar.com/corporate/airtemp.php


Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500 (no A/C)

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Not sure if this is true but interesting story makes you wonder where people come up with the information.

Chuck Deyoe
1955 Chrysler




Subject: Fw: A LITTLE TIDBIT




Here's a little factoid for automotive buffs or just to dazzle your friends.
The four Goldberg brothers, Lowell, Norman, Hiram, and Max, invented
and
developed the first automobile air-conditioner. On July 17, 1946, the
temperature in Detroit was 97 degrees.
The four brothers walked into old man Henry Ford's office and
sweet-talked
his secretary into telling him that four gentlemen were there with the
most
exciting innovation in the auto industry since the electric starter.
Henry was curious and invited them into his office. They refused and
instead asked that he come out to the parking lot to their car.
They persuaded him to get into the car, which was about 130 degrees,
turned on the air conditioner, and cooled the car off immediately.
The old man got very excited and invited them back to the office,
where he offered them $3 million for the patent.
The brothers refused, saying they would settle for $2 million, but
they wanted the recognition by having a label,
'The Goldberg Air Conditioner,
on the dashboard of each car in which it was installed.
Now old man Ford was more than just a little anti-Semitic, and there was
no way he was going to put the Goldberg's name on two million Fords.
They haggled back and forth for about two hours and finally agreed on
$4 million and that just their first names would be shown.
And so to this day, all Ford air conditioners show -- Lo, Norm, Hi,
and Max-- on the controls.
I can hear your groans from here. Control yourself !!! just forward it.

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