Fern, since you're found the build sheet, check the engine code on the top line between the trim code and transmission code. This is the sales code. If it shows 71, that is the standard 300L 360hp, 413. If it shows 82, it would be the 425hp 426. However, if it shows 82 it should also have sales code 709 for special order.
Sales codes are different than build codes on the broadcast sheet. The 582 sales code for 1965 is a white convertible top. I don't have Galen's part code book so I can't confirm a 582 engine build code.
You might also check your fender tag. The numbers under AB on the second line will also have the engine code (i.e. 71 or 82). Note that for 1965, a standard engine with the crankcase vent system will be coded 99 (a special order engine is coded 91).
Ty
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From: "Fern" <crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [FWDLK] re engine for 65 300L 4 s conv
Date: Fri, Jun 7, 2013 12:05 am
Ok you explain to me what 5 82 re engine option on the
build sheet means! Build sheets normally don't lie and it's the correct one for
the car. Everything on the build sheet agrees with the fender tag. It
certainly isn't the normal stock 360 hp single 4 barrel 413
engine. Also, the wheel covers options fall under box 48 and not 582 on a
chrysler as quoted by Tom Miller. One must remember that back in those days, if
you had the right contacts at chrysler one could order pretty well any options
that weren't standard issue. I will be in touch with Galen Govier shortly
to get some clarifications.
Fern
----- Original Message -----
From:
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To: crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:33
PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] re engine for 65
300L 4 s conv
SPECIAL ENGINE IS A PRETTY GENERAL STATEMENT.
In a message dated 6/6/2013 9:07:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, crc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Sorry to bust anyone's bubble but the fender
tag code for engine under AB shows 99 which is special engine?
Fern
----- Original Message -----
From:
Thomas
Miller
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:32
PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] re engine for 65
300L 4 s conv
Fern,
I agree with John, but have learned to never say *never* when it
comes to just what you could get from the factory back in the day.
With that said, I'd bet that broadcast sheet code 582 is not an
engine code but the code for "Sport Wheel Covers".
I found this broadcast sheet reference: http://papentastars.tripod.com/id21.html that
shows both the 3 digit numeric codes from '62 - '68 and the later
alphanumeric codes.
As always, you're mileage may vary..... :-) But all of
the engine codes seem to have a leading zero. The Max Wedge 426
shows code 009.
It is fun to think though that somebody back in the day may have
pulled some strings and had a 4-speed 300L convertible built with this
engine. It'd be a handful for sure!
Take care...
Best Regards,
Tom Miller
tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx
'57 300C, '70 440+6 'Cuda>>> John Hagen
<sprinthag@xxxxxxxxx> 6/6/2013 11:29 AM >>>
Fern,
Mmmm
something is amiss here.
The
425 hp, 12.5 to 1 compression ratio engine was an out and out racing
engine that was very much advised against street use. It’s last production
was in early model year 1964 for only the mid-size Dodge and
Plymouth.
The
only RPO engine for the 300L was the single four barrel 413 rated at 340
hp. While there were two four-barrel 413’s available beginning with the
300E and ending with the 300K ( and only as an option in the case of the
300K) none of had 12.5 compression nor were any of them rated at over 390
hp. 300’s were always to be a very high performance yet very streetable
cars designed as “bankers hot rods” as stated by one automotive
journalist, Tom McCahill if memory serves me right. The max wedge engines
were anything but very streetable and certainly not suited for driving to
and from the banker place of business on a daily basis. The 300 letter
series never received any 426 or 440 engines, at least as
RPO’s.
I
am certainly not challenging Galen Grovier on this as he is the recognized
guru and his record of accuracy is impeccable but I do believe there is
some misinterpreting of data somewhere along the
line.
John
Hagen
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FernSent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:09 AMTo:
L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: [FWDLK] re engine for 65
300L 4 s conv
I finally
found the build sheet for my 1965 300L 4 speed convertible. It was tucked
in a top corner of the rear vertical back seat, hidden behind the rear
cardboard cover. The tag was very fragile but I managed to pretty get it
all out. I was then referring to Galen Govier reference book and found
that engine code being 582 stands for 426 wedge with dual four barrel
carbs, 425 HP, 12.5/1 compression.
Apparently, that engine in
question is the max wedge engine with the cross rams that had special
exhaust manifolds to get around the steering gear box, etc. I would be
looking to getting any and all information regarding this
engine.
Now the
question is, does anyone have one of those engines kicking around? Up
to this find, I was trying to make up my mind if I should restore it or
sell it in as is condition but I now will have to rethink this very
carefully. I wasn't even aware that this engine was available
with that model of Mopar.
Fern
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