Re: {Chrysler 300} 300K/ electric AC
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Re: {Chrysler 300} 300K/ electric AC



Hi Danny, 
yeah , just looked it up on that Amazon link 
They do not tell you the draw in the specs  but one guy in  reviews notes it is just under 2 kw, and therefore in his opinion cannot possibly be the rated 10 k btu . But 1/2 hour at 2 kw is a dead battery 

i don't think his math  is quite right , a 120 v window AC now comes up to 12k (?) btu , maybe 10 A - 15 A ( 1200 - 1800 watts )  , —- but at 12 v that is 100-150 A 
No one has a steady output 150 A alternator , even 100 A “rated “ is not for steady use. 100 A is # 3 wire (!) , as thick as your finger, 2-3 V belts or ribbed 
I got into this a few years back ,I had  noticed that the big Delco for diesel  trailer trucks is common, as an   aftermarket rebuilt etc , low $ and is rated a “real 70 A “    . I bought one , it was really large ,( it IS about a HP!)  but soon had second thoughts — scaled back the whole idea  Was going to put 2 kW inverter , big battery in 50 stude hemi hot rod , use anything you want at 120 v , including ? an AC in trunk . Electric everything.  
 Sometimes , seemingly  great  3 AM  ideas carry me to very bad places .  Older now,  slightly wiser  …. 

Mini splits are really good, Mitsubishi , about 10 A at 240 , so 2400 W for ~?15000 btu 
Say cut that in half , 1200 W for 7500 btu if these are that good 
Still 100 A 
“ 900 W” , was quoted   somewhere so about 80 A would   be about 5000 btu 
must  be about where this is ,  but even that means quite an  alternator , larger than stock .. 
or two alternators . 
Once you do that , might as well just put sanden on the block , as you still need a 40 A fan . As fan belt ability gets into this . Or fan on motor . Really not that hard compared to getting the electricity.   
I ended up using Sanden and~  “100A “  alternator taken from 02 Grand cherokee, has a 6 rib belt , made a custom 6 rib pulley and spacer that  bolts  to  mopar balancer, one more fan V belt in front of it for  PS and water pump .   Lines up . More likely 60 A in Jeep is real #  , as # 6 wire in the jeep . Alternator and  sanden are on each side of water neck on top ( car has a tall hood ) .  
I like it ! Vintage air stuff under dash … we will see ..  

For  sure not a  drop in … 
But gets one thinking … 
 

On Jul 1, 2025, at 8:06 PM, dplotkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:



900 watts? That can't run long on a starting battery without  an alternator keeping up with it (and a blower on high). Hot rod guys must run massive-output alternators. What say you Mr. Grady re; this? I think this is what Tesla does.  

 

Danny Plotkin

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From: "Nick Taylor" <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2025 5:41pm
To: "John Nowosacki" <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Carl Bilter" <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx>, dplotkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[4]: {Chrysler 300} 300K.

John,
Those systems run about $600. They're popular with hotrodders or people with unusual vehicles since you don't have to figure out mounts for a compressor on the engine.
Here's one on Amazon. https://amzn.to/4evHpXy
Nick

On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 2:25 PM John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
At a recent car show, I saw something I did not know about.  A 55 Olds had an all-electric Sanden compressor mounted on the passenger side inner fender and powered by a relay (low current to switch higher current) to alleviate any mounting and belt routing issues on the front of the  V-8.  A built in electric motor on the Sanden ran very quietly, and the owner could turn on the A/C without running the engine of the car.  Cool air out of the vents was very quick to appear.  Interesting idea for adding A/C to any car with little fabrication of bracketry/belt alignment/tensioners etc.  No clutch, either.  No idea of the price on such a compressor though.

On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 4:01 PM Carl Bilter <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That is correct Nick, but according to the 1964 order code list here 1964 Chrysler Order Code List  it specifies that neither front or dual A/C was available with the manual trans, which is what I was attempting to convey, in response to the original poster's question about the 4-speed manual.  I have no idea why maybe someone knows.  Auto-Pilot on ram definitely an issue as there is no room with ds carb and ram.  
Carl
------ Original Message ------
From "Nick Taylor" <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx>
To "Carl Bilter" <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx>
Date 7/1/2025 12:08:27 PM
Subject Re: Re[2]: {Chrysler 300} 300K.
For clarification, regular air conditioning was available with the ram engine option. It's dual air conditioning that wasn't available. Neither was the rear defogger. It seems that the knobs for those items go in the same spot that the choke knob goes and that is probably why. You could get dual a/c on 1960-61 ram cars so it isn't a plumbing problem.
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On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 10:01 AM Carl Bilter <cbilter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The 4 speed was not available with the Ram option or with A/C.  Rear axle ratios may have been an issue.  The late Lynn Dunsworth modified his J with a '64 4 speed stick (it fit) and with the 3.23 rear it was nearly impossible to get a smooth clutch engagement with the short rams.  I rode with him in the car at our 2015 Macungie meet.  The J stick option (a 3 speed) used a 3.91 rear.  Maybe it was because of no torque converter with a stick, higher rear end ratio needed for torque multiplication with rams?? 
Carl B.    
------ Original Message ------
From "Nick Taylor" <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx>
To "John Nowosacki" <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx>
Date 7/1/2025 10:38:37 AM
Subject Re: {Chrysler 300} 300K.
I thought the 4-speed wasn't available with the ram engine because the clutch linkage didn't fit with the cast iron headers.

On Tue, Jul 1, 2025, 7:02 AM John Nowosacki <jsnowosacki@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
While never a big fan of the styling compared to Forward Look years, I think 64 was the only year where it was possible to have a letter car with A/C, short crossrams, and a 4 speed with a convertible top?  ( I can't remember if the convertible F Special 4 speed was A/C or not, but it was certainly not readily available like the 300K)

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