RE: [Chrysler300] Dual-Point Distributor not Distributing!

[Bill Huff <czbill@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Ok, so I just off a midnight shift, HERE is the link.

http://www.imperialclub.com/Repair/Lit/Master/046/index.htm

Hi John,

I would guess that you did block the points open with an insulating 
material?  =-O

The first thing I would do is to disconnect the distributor wire from 
the coil and repeat the test.  If you still show ground on all parts 
of the points, it just about has to be under the breaker plate or in 
the grommet coming through the distributor housing.

Also, make sure the points aren't warped or incorrectly installed so 
that the spring is touching ground.  The phenolic bushing is supposed 
to keep the moveable point insulated from the post.  Maybe disconnect 
one point at a time and see if the ground continues on the other 
point as a means of isolating the problem.

Here is a link to a pretty thorough book on Chrysler point 
distributors, might not speak directly to your problem but maybe 
comparing the pictures will help.

Regards,

Bill Huff



At 10/20/200810:25 PM, John wrote:

>Sorry - The first line of my e-mail was a bit confusing - delete the 
>words "fired up" - I rephrased my sentence and did not delete those words.
>
>--- On Mon, 10/20/08, John 
><<mailto:spiers%40rocketmail.com>spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>From: John <<mailto:spiers%40rocketmail.com>spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Dual-Point Distributor not Distributing!
>To: "'Chrysler 300 Club Intl'" 
><<mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 7:41 PM
>
>Thanks for all your suggestions regarding my no-fire 300-K with the 
>factory dual-point distributor fired up!
>
>I finally got back to the K tonight, and had a few minutes of 
>daylight to look under rthe hood.
>
>I was checking for continuity between components inside the 
>distributor, since it was suggested that one or more wires under the 
>cap might be broken.
>
>I propped open BOTH sets of points.  Ignition off. No battery in the car.
>
>I checked to see that the Low-Tension coil wire coming in through 
>the side of the distributor with a rubber grommet was connected to 
>the first set of points, and that the wire between the points had 
>continuity.  That was all OK.
>
>I had constant continuity between the breaker plate and distributor 
>body, even wiggling the breaker plate ground wire.
>
>Unfortunately, I had continuity from BOTH SIDES of both sets of 
>points to ground - and this is with the points propped open, remember.
>
>I double-checked to see if there were any loose wires, a stray 
>screw, anything askew.  Nothing.
>
>I ran out of daylight, but couldn't check anything else any further 
>- are there any other parts that could be out of whack causing a 
>weak grounding of all components?  The only thing I can think of is 
>that the connection that contains the LT coil wire, condensor wire 
>and wire that connects the points is somehow grounded.
>
>Remember that last tme that I was trying to start the K, when I 
>cranked the engine with the starter and had the ignition on, I did 
>get a weak yellow spark - enough to give me a mild jolt - but this 
>was only at the primary set of points.  The car would not start.
>
>I'm not the first to try to get this 300-K running since it left the 
>road in the 70s - There are a couple receipts dated 1989 for points 
>and a condensor.
>
>I think I'm going to dig out a single-point unit I have to see if 
>it'll run on that.
>
>Your input is well-appreciated!
>
>John Spiers
>
>--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@pacbell. net> wrote:
>
>From: Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@pacbell. net>
>Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Dual-Point Distributor not Distributing!
>To: spiers@rocketmail. com, "'Chrysler 300 Club Intl'" <chrysler300@ 
>yahoogroups. com>
>Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:50 PM
>
>John,
>
>Check the ground wire that grounds the movable plate that the points 
>are mounted on.  Mine broke and left me stranded on the way to a 
>show about 10 years ago.  The wire flexes a lot and is subject to wear.
>
>Bob J
>
>From: Chrysler300@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Chrysler300@ 
>yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John
>Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:31 PM
>To: Chrysler 300 Club Intl
>Subject: [Chrysler300] Dual-Point Distributor not Distributing!
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have a non-ram 300-K coupe with a stock dual-point 
>distributor.  The engine turns over fine with a freshly-charged 
>battery, but I'm getting very little spark, not enough to run.
>
>With the cap off, I see a weak spark arcing between one set of 
>points [the set closer to the driver's side of the car], and no 
>spark at all from the other set.
>
>I checked both sets of points.  They are nearly new, but I dressed 
>up the faces of the points with a file anyway, and set the gaps.
>
>I replaced the coil with one known to work.
>
>I replaced the condensor with one known to work.
>
>I even ran a wire with spring clamps on each end - one end to the + 
>battery terminal and the other to the + terminal on the coil.
>
>I achieved no change at all from any of the above.
>
>Can anyone show me where I've gone wrong?
>
>Thanks,
>
>John Spiers
>Lake Worth, Florida
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mkp {
>BORDER-RIGHT: #d8d8d8 1px solid;PADDING- RIGHT:14px; BORDER-TOP: 
>#d8d8d8 1px solid;PADDING- LEFT:14px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px;MARGIN: 
>14px 0px;BORDER-LEFT: #d8d8d8 1px solid;PADDING- TOP:0px;BORDER- 
>BOTTOM:#d8d8d8 1px solid;FONT-FAMILY: Arial;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mkp HR {
>BORDER-RIGHT: #d8d8d8 1px solid;BORDER- TOP:#d8d8d8 1px 
>solid;BORDER- LEFT:#d8d8d8 1px solid;BORDER- BOTTOM:#d8d8d8 1px solid;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mkp #hd {
>FONT-WEIGHT: bold;FONT- SIZE:85%; MARGIN:10px 0px;COLOR:#628c2a; 
>LINE-HEIGHT: 122%;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mkp #ads {
>MARGIN-BOTTOM: 10px;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mkp .ad {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;PADDING- LEFT:0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px;PADDING- TOP:0px;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mkp .ad A {
>COLOR:#0000ff; TEXT-DECORATION: none;}
>
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc {
>FONT-FAMILY: Arial;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd {
>FONT-WEIGHT: bold;FONT- SIZE:78%; MARGIN:10px 0px;LINE-HEIGHT: 122%;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;PADDING- LEFT:0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 10px;PADDING- 
>BOTTOM:0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px;}
>
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mlmsg {
>FONT-SIZE:small; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mlmsg TABLE {
>
>}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mlmsg SELECT {
>FONT:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
>#yiv600460639 INPUT {
>FONT:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
>#yiv600460639 TEXTAREA {
>FONT:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mlmsg PRE {
>FONT:100% monospace;}
>#yiv600460639 CODE {
>FONT:100% monospace;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mlmsg * {
>LINE-HEIGHT: 1.22em;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-text {
>FONT-FAMILY: Georgia;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-text P {
>MARGIN:0px 0px 1em;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-tpmsgs {
>CLEAR:both;FONT- FAMILY:Arial; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vitnav {
>FONT-SIZE:77% ;MARGIN:0px; PADDING-TOP: 10px;FONT- FAMILY:Verdana; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vitnav A {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 1px;PADDING- LEFT:1px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px;PADDING- TOP:0px;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-actbar {
>CLEAR:both;MARGIN: 25px 0px;COLOR:#666; WHITE-SPACE: nowrap;TEXT- 
>ALIGN:right; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-actbar .left {
>FLOAT:left;WHITE- SPACE:nowrap; }
>#yiv600460639 .bld {
>FONT-WEIGHT: bold;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-grft {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;PADDING- LEFT:0px; FONT-SIZE: 77%;PADDING- 
>BOTTOM:15px; PADDING-TOP: 15px;FONT- FAMILY:Verdana; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-ft {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;BORDER- TOP:#666 1px solid;PADDING- LEFT:0px; 
>FONT-SIZE: 77%;PADDING- BOTTOM:5px; PADDING-TOP: 5px;FONT- FAMILY:verdana; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-mlmsg #logo {
>PADDING-BOTTOM: 10px;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-reco {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;PADDING- LEFT:0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 20px;PADDING- 
>BOTTOM:0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-reco #reco-head {
>FONT-WEIGHT: bold;COLOR: #ff7900;}
>#yiv600460639 #reco-grpname {
>MARGIN-TOP:10px; FONT-WEIGHT: bold;}
>#yiv600460639 #reco-category {
>FONT-SIZE:77% ;}
>#yiv600460639 #reco-desc {
>FONT-SIZE:77% ;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vital {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;PADDING- LEFT:8px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 20px;PADDING- 
>BOTTOM:8px; PADDING-TOP: 2px;BACKGROUND- COLOR:#e0ecee; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vital #vithd {
>FONT-WEIGHT: bold;FONT- SIZE:77%; TEXT-TRANSFORM: uppercase; 
>COLOR:#333; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vital UL {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;PADDING- LEFT:0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px;MARGIN: 
>2px 0px;PADDING- TOP:0px;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vital UL LI {
>CLEAR:both;BORDER- RIGHT:#e0ecee 1px solid;BORDER- TOP:#e0ecee 1px 
>solid;BORDER- LEFT:#e0ecee 1px solid;BORDER- BOTTOM:#e0ecee 1px 
>solid;LIST-STYLE- TYPE:none; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vital UL LI .ct {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0.5em;FONT- WEIGHT:bold; FLOAT:right; WIDTH:2em; 
>COLOR:#ff7900; TEXT-ALIGN: right;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vital UL LI .cat {
>FONT-WEIGHT: bold;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vital A {
>TEXT-DECORATION: none;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-vital A:hover {
>TEXT-DECORATION: underline; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor #hd {
>FONT-SIZE:77% ;COLOR:#999; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor #ov {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 13px;PADDING- LEFT:13px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 20px;PADDING- 
>BOTTOM:6px; PADDING-TOP: 6px;BACKGROUND- COLOR:#e0ecee; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor #ov UL {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;PADDING- LEFT:8px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px;MARGIN: 
>0px;PADDING- TOP:0px;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor #ov LI {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;PADDING- LEFT:0px; FONT-SIZE: 77%;PADDING- 
>BOTTOM:6px; PADDING-TOP: 6px;LIST- STYLE-TYPE: square;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor #ov LI A {
>FONT-SIZE:130% ;TEXT-DECORATION :none;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor #nc {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 8px;PADDING- LEFT:8px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 20px;PADDING- 
>BOTTOM:0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px;BACKGROUND- COLOR:#eee; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor .ad {
>PADDING-RIGHT: 0px;PADDING- LEFT:0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px;PADDING- TOP:8px;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1 {
>FONT-WEIGHT: bold;FONT- SIZE:100% ;COLOR:#628c2a; LINE-HEIGHT: 
>122%;FONT- FAMILY:Arial; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor .ad A {
>TEXT-DECORATION: none;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor .ad A:hover {
>TEXT-DECORATION: underline; }
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-sponsor .ad P {
>MARGIN:0px;}
>#yiv600460639 o {
>FONT-SIZE:0px; }
>#yiv600460639 .MsoNormal {
>MARGIN:0px;}
>#yiv600460639 #ygrp-text TT {
>FONT-SIZE:120% ;}
>#yiv600460639 BLOCKQUOTE {
>MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 4px;}
>#yiv600460639 .replbq {
>
>}
>
>____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
><http://mail.>http://mail. yahoo.com
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
><http://mail.yahoo.com>http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


------------------------------------

To send a message to this group, send an email to:
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm

For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/