Re: [Chrysler300] 300F Tire questions - again!
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Re: [Chrysler300] 300F Tire questions - again!
- From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:21:25 EDT
John and All:
Unfortunately Diamondback does not make the proper size tire (radial) for
the 300F yet. However it is great to hear of unqualified satisfaction with
a product. Perhaps I will suggest (demand??) that Universal replace my
tires with Diamondbacks when they are available. Thanks, John.
300ly, Gil
In a message dated 8/12/2009 12:42:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
john@xxxxxxxxx writes:
About four months ago I finally purchased my first set of wide white
radials and installed them on our '57 300 C with the factory 15" Motor rim &
wheel wires. The brand I chose was Diamondback as I've heard from several car
friends how please they were.
The Diamondbacks have been flawless in performance and I truly enjoy
driving the car once again. As I recall cost was close to $800 for the four
installed. A lot of money, but the look and ride are well worth the funds
spent.
John Lazenby
----- Original Message -----
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
To: awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx ; cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300F Tire questions - again!
Tony, Noel and All:
Gil Cunningham here. I sure wish I could report all was well with my
Universal AC tires, but, unfortunately such is not the case. As Tony
mentioned, while up in PA at the meet I stopped by the Universal Tire
place in
Hershey because their tires I had mounted and balanced here in Tallahassee
did
not ride as smooth as I felt they should. There were far more "vibration"
areas than with the 30 something year old B.F. Goodrich Silvertowns that I
had used to attend four meets. (Given to me by member Terry McTaggart!) Of
course, those were bias ply tires---if that should matter. I must state
that the Universal people were extremely willing and anxious to help. No
complaints in that department at this time. They ended up changing out 3
of
the 4 new tires (1000+ miles on them), mostly because the sidewalls did
not
look right. (raised areas, both radially and circumferentially. .I
personally watched all zero out on the balancer. They even took the
precaution
to put the two which showed a little run-out on the rear. I worked along
with them.
On the way back to our hotel, I did feel there was definite improvement,
especially at highway speeds. On the way back to Florida, however, it
became increasingly evident that the vibration, if anything, was worse in
the
mid-speed ranges, and was most noticeable and annoying when the road was
smoothest! Definitely unacceptable, and far worse than that SET of radial
tires I bought for the 300H at Discount Tire many years ago for $95.00
(Plus
tax, of course!) That is not a typo---$95.00!! They have served very well
while driving to many meets and hardly look worn.
Anyway, that is my story. I called Universal after we arrived home and
explained the situation, but did not ask for anything specific, and
nothing
was offered. I have not driven the car since, so don't know if some
miraculous "healing" has taken place while it has been resting. Ha. I
guess I
will give it another test drive and then write Universal a letter. What to
ask for? Coker replacements? Afraid of them yet. My B.F.G.s are long gone
(worn out anyway). Maybe another balance? Go back to bias? Don't know.
So no, I can't recommend Universal ACs I am sorry to say. They do look
great. Makes me wish the car was a trailer queen--- then I wouldn't care.
300ly, Gil
In a message dated 8/11/2009 8:04:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx writes:
There are well over 100 sets of Coker 235/75R14 on our cars today.
Generally, they require alot of lead to balance. They have not been any of
the
other problems that have been associated with other size Coler tires.
The ride and steering on mr "F" conv have been great at all
speeds. My only problem recently was after having the tires rotated front
to
back. Radial pull occurred and had to swap the right to the left to have
the
car track straight again.
The American Classic tire is not the same. Actually it's tread is oh
so 70's Michelin and exremelt handsome.
I personally had to get the 100 pre sell orders in order to get Coker to
make this size. With that said, I would prefer the looks of the AC tire as
my next choice.
Hope Gil Cunningham chimes on on this discussion since he recently put a
set of AC on his "F" conv and drove from FL to PA and back. He
reported some vibration at high speeds and had a couple of tires swapped
out
at an AC dealer in Hershey PA.
Hope Gil will report whether or not the AC are performing well and if he
would recommend them.
Tony
cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> After reading the Club emails over the past few years discussing tires -
I'm still trying to zero in on what to buy for our F Coupe.
> Re Coker, I'm still hearing issues - just about every Coker-related
message talks to problems with balancing, and that they've hopefullly
resolved
their structural integrity issues. Re American Classics, their website
gives no info - just refers to Coker, Universal, Lucas as distributors.
Comparing the Coker and American Classic P235/75R14s, the load capacities,
tread
widths, section widths and overall diameters are identical - only Co ker
catalog's UTQG (Uniform Tire Quality Grade) ratings differ between the 2
"brands " (American Classic's 540BB rating is apparently better than
Coker's
400BB rating) and the Coker tire price is a few bucks more. Sounds like
we're
still unclear whether American Classic and Co ker are one and the same
tire - the tread patterns in the catalog photos appear identical.
> I called Diamond Back this morning and spoke with one of their sales
reps, Jim. He advised that there's no current maker of a quality
P235/75R14
tire today - could be a dig against Coker? He did say that they're working
on
a 75 series 14" radial that will approximate the tire size we're all
looking for. They just received their first test version of it, are were
not at
all pleased - he estimates that any such tire won't be ready to market
until next summer [2010] or later.
> He did offer up the following suggestion, and I'm wondering if any of
you have tried this. Diamond Back sells a European Metric tire that's also
used on vans and light trucks, and that he says works very well in
automotive
applications. He says handling and road noise are very good. The tire's
height is 27.3", vs Coker's 27.87"; tread width of 6.3" is the same as
Coker's; cross-section of 8.5" is 3/4" narrower than Coker's 9.25"; it's a
6-ply
tire rated at 2464# vs Coker's 1930#, is manufactured by Federal, and it
replaces 225/75R14 - is described on Page 6 of their 2009 catalog. The
tire
does come in a 2 1/2" wide whitewalls.
> Is anyone out there running these tires? Or had any experience with
them?
> And there's also the continuing debate re installing new rims. Diamond
Back's website quotes the 12/6/07 Old Cars Weekly article that we saw on
our
Club website a few months back, and says the claim is bogus, that there's
no alloy difference, and no markings on rims to indicate use with bias or
radial tires. DB's argument in fact states that radials absorb more impact
and are therefore less stressful on rims than are bias ply tires. Any new
thoughts on this, as we're still running the original 1960 rims on the F?
> Th anks for your input, and apologies for again bringing up an old topic
!
> Noel Hastalis
> Burr Ridge, IL
> And there's also the continuing debate re installing new rims. Diamond
Back's website quotes the 12/6/07 Old Cars Weekly article that we saw on
our
Club website a few months back, and says the claim is bogus, that there's
no alloy difference, and no markings on rims to indicate use with bias or
radial tires. DB's argument in fact states that radials absorb more impact
and are therefore less stressful on rims than are bias ply tires. Any new
thoughts on this, as we're still running the original 1960 rims on the F?
> Th anks for your input, and apologies for again bringing up an old topic
!
> Noel Hastalis
> Burr Ridge, IL
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