| I have no problem with being giving me lip, it happens. The 300 club has a love hate relationship with my family, I get that. I watched for years as people from the 300 club gave my father endless negative feedback over putting a 5.7 hemi in his 300G. A 300G that is approaching 80k miles that he has driven the past decade with that combo. Another 300G was rescued with the motor from that car, so no “g”’s were lost in this experiment. Then I came along, gathering up letter cars that I loved. This made it difficult for some members. They love the originality of these cars, but hate what my father did to his. There is no way to collect and preserve in this hobby and make everyone happy. I’m totally fine with that. The only thing I’ll fight back on, is when my words are taken out of context, which is what started my response to this thread.
We are all here because we love these cars, some of us just love them in different ways and that’s ok. It’s ok for all of us to disagree how the others go about it. No harm no foul to me. I happen to love these cars and the history behind them. I’m fortunate to be a situation to help preserve that history for others down the road. I’m sure trying to go all original won’t work, but if there is a chance in trying, I should. Most who have tried to make these units work, were short on pieces. That isn’t the case here. I’m happy to fail, it has never bothered me. I’ll be open about it and make adjustments as needed. Not trying to mis-represent the car. I’ve spent a lot of money and time trying to get the history of 55 vin 1 correct as well as 57 vin 1. Just trying to do what I can so future generations get to enjoy these things
Mike
I have been watching the threads over the past few years from the members and have been kind of disappointed with some. I joined the 300 club at 8 years old because my father saw how much I loved the 300's especially our d. I left the club for a while because it became the millionaire club and really felt uncomfortable bringing my non original car only to be sneered at. When I joined we had fun, burnouts in the hotel parking lots, light drag racing, even saw some fist fights. Though all that we still sat dow on Saturday night and had a good meal together. Mike Mccandless bought a few cars that if not saved would either rot into the ground (55-001) or the D he acquired that he been sitting in a garage for 40 years and was never going to be restored. While I don't really get along with him ( personal reasons) I think what Mike is doing is great for our club. Our cars are disappearing overseas to members who drive them. Meets are getting smaller every time and when someone puts up a post about rescuing part of our history we belittle them intentionally or not. There is nothing wrong with adding our 2 cents but at the end of the day we all love our 300's. Just a opinion from one of the younger smart mouth members Dan Roy Jr
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-------- Original message -------- Date: 4/26/21 9:18 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: RE: {Chrysler 300} Check this out! McCandless —Fuel Injected! Vin 0001?
I found this article from our own Don Verity about the De Soto fuel injewction
https://www.allpar.com/threads/1958-chrysler-desoto-electrojector-world%E2%80%99s-first-electronic-fuel-injection.228433/
Hope it comes through okay
Jerry Lindsay
while not wanting to belabor it any more, the “ special Bendix electrolytic capacitors” are more fairy story . It is a standard electrical component available for ten bucks at Mouser . ( Panasonic are the best ones) . Radio guys commonly put them inside the old cans for looks . Whatever lifts your boat . All that said , the basic unit and the engineering conceptual ideas used in executing it are very poor . As are the injectors . Why it was pulled . Correct decision . Beyond that it can enter the realm of Fish Carburetor etc Or my grandfather’s Ax . Replaced the handle , later replace the head. Still his ax Whatever , i only wish good luck to Mike on it . The decision what to do needs to be made rationally from a point of truly understanding it , not opinion ,— if you really want to drive it — which admittedly colors my comment , and may not be the end goal at all . Trailer queen or museum piece may go other ways . All this has zero to do with the superb skill of restorer . It has to do with whether it ever worked well enough at all , even with engineering support, for more than an hour as designed. Call it a failed engineering experiment pointing to the correct future device .. I do . That is common in engineering . How you learn . ( ps, the next try on the 318 in the ? 80 Imperial did not work out so well either , although that can be fixed up ) I would buy a Holley CIS system and adapt to the original manifold etc . Drive it , lots better than the WCFB too. Still the #1 fuel injected car. Still fuel injected too) The restoration company that Mr Mccandless hired for the restoration is the only one that successfully duplicated all the bendix capacitors. Tom White Sr is a electrical engineer who worked for Raytheon in the late fifties to the late seventies. His 58 adventurer ran good and was rebuilt using as many original parts as possible. I hope to be a part of this project even if it's supplying some nos parts. Unfortunately I won't be able to report on the project as there are certain confidentiality stipulations between the 2 parties. But knowing the Whitehall family as I do the car will be as close to original as physically possible Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- Date: 4/25/21 7:30 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Check this out! McCandless —Fuel Injected! Vin 0001? hi , I hope someone looks at the info Bob has on the 300 site , all the factory data , tests , decisions they made — and why — and the also the analysis / report of it I did , looking at it as an EE . I spent a year on this , wrote it up, as much misinformation was always floating around . It really interested me, “How did it work?” They were all pulled because they all failed , and one can see why they failed from the schematic of it . “ Interference “ by neon signs ? etc etc - are all incorrect . Not possible . There are no “ vacuum tubes” either . Fairy stories.
Jim B had the original Chrysler engineering test and service problem info , passed it on to me at the time . I believe Gloria also helped out. I also found the prints of it ; flat out unworkable very naive design . Not by Chrysler by the way ,— it was Bendix as a vendor trying to sell them prototype “ great new idea” aircraft style ? electric fuel injectors on a car . They made many exotic claims , some at Chrysler believed them . GM had a fairly good FI coming ,too —Rochester mechanical , — shook them up at Mopar . Rochester engineers were carb guys, knew the real issues .
Even if one “ got it running” with the original design and parts , i doubt you will go 300 miles . And it won’t be pleasant . It might destroy your engine in fact , due to the exact ways it commonly failed . Bad news. As in injectors not closing or sealing, steadily leaking fuel into one cylinder , filling it = hydraulic lock , bent rods etc , —- of course intermittently . Yow. .... They often had to supply not just carbs , but whole new service engines . For instance it has a mechanical brush system added to the distributor to go cylinder to cylinder on the injectors . Not like a rotor ( which does not touch the contacts ) it had to touch reliably (!) at 12 volts . Right . talk about a D - design idea. I think those who adapt closed loop O2 sensor systems to the old throttle body really deserve our praise ,not criticism, as it was truly too far ahead of 55- 1956 analog technology to ever work . Hide the CPU box under the dash Kind of along the lines of wooden wheel bearings lubed by tallow . yeah , it works , and is “all original “ . You can do that if you want to .. for about 20 miles. And bring a brush and bucket of NOS tallow. Walk next to it. And a jack , fire extinguisher , ( if overheats = fire) and new clean clothes. John G Sent from my iPhone not by choice --
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