RE: Timing Problem!

["Earl H. " <earlh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Bill,

How the heck have you been?

Ok start with the basics, which I assume a man of your experience has 
done, but just to cover all the bases. First, check TDC with the timing 
mark and balancer. I am assuming it will be correct, but just to make 
sure, check it.

I suspect your distributor. First thing I would do is disconnect the 
vacuum advance if it has one. Does it? I would line it out first 
without the vacuum advance. I don't run them on most of my 
engines. Now to the issue. It is the classic total advance verses 
initial advance. I am assuming that since it seems to be bouncing 
around on total, that you might need one spring size stronger on 
the mechanical advance, or there is something not right with the 
total stop, or the plate in the distributor is junk. Check all of that 
first and get the total advance to where it is stable.

Most Mallory distributors have and adjustable initial advance post. 
The problem is that the initial is too low for the motor to run right 
when you set the total correctly. In my mind that is always the way 
to set the motor up, first get the total correct, then get the initial where

it needs to be, then work on the advance curve.

Move the initial post up until you get 10 to 12 degrees initial at idle 
with the total set where you want it. This should get you in the ball park.

Earl

-----Original Message-----
From: William Cole [mailto:wedge64@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:28 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Timing Problem!


There is no outer ring. It's a solid ATI balancer.
On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:14:01 -0700, "65" <65Val@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> 
> Sounds like the outside ring on the balancer has slipped. Will the engine 
> run normally at the 50* setting, ie no ping? If so, the slipped outer
> ring 
> would be my guess.
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Cole" <wedge64@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 5:32 AM
> Subject: Timing Problem!
> 
> 
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> > We have a 383 motor with Edelbrock alum. heads, alum. manifold, BG
> > Demon carb, Mallory ignition, and a Mopar .533 cam, and an ATI dampner.
> > When trying to time it with two different timing lights, it shows 50
> > degrees at idle. If we try to bring it back to initial timing around 12
> > to 14 degrees, the motor won't run. If you try to total time it at 2500,
> > the timing marks keep advancing more. Can't figure out why we can't time
> > it at idle or total time it.
> > The timing marks on the crank and cam are right so what do you think is
> > wrong and causing this? It also won't idle slower than around 1200 at
> > idle and going into gear it stalls the motor. Checked for vacuum leaks
> > and found none. Any ideas?
> >
> > Bill C.
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