Re: sending unit

[William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>]

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--- On Thu, 8/19/10, JJ <jchistia@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: JJ <jchistia@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sending unit
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 10:00 AM
> 
> Please start a new thread on tranny issues.  The
> subject of this one is "sending unit".
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ollie" <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:53 AM
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sending unit
> 
> > 
> > Yes Rich, same thing happened to my 727 last winter,
> nice puddle of trans fluid on the floor. My buddies C-4, 66
> Mustang suffered the same woo's. Both filled and working
> good.
> > Life as a Rodder!
> > Ollie
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Kinsley"
> <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:28 AM
> > Subject: RE: sending unit
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> I have been coerced into working on a '79 'Vette.
> Something of interest
> >> to us perhaps has been pointed out to me by my
> Chevy boy cousin. Namely
> >> that when setting for long periods of time the
> converter drains back
> >> into the transmission and forces the excess fluid
> out the front seal.
> >> The 'Vette was leaking severely, lost so much
> fluid it wouldn't move.
> >> Cuz said, "Fill it, drive it, it'll be OK". I
> found this to be true. It
> >> quit leaking and is functioning properly. Now will
> this be the same for
> >> our 727's/904's???
> >> 
> >> PS: The 'Vette work has netted me some nice Mopar
> stuff, front wheels!!!
> >> 
> >> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly
> w/goodies
> >>
> ====================================================================
> >> William Harrison wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Took the tank out again and removed the
> sending unit.
> >>> I attached a jumper wire to the hot wire and a
> ground wire from the unit
> >>> to=
> >>>  the frame close to the ignition switch.
> >>> Turned the key on and lifted the
> float....Nothing......But, noticed a
> >>> sligh=
> >>> t movement when the float was down so I
> reversed the position of the
> >>> rheost=
> >>> at and lifted the float and got movement of my
> gas gauge.
> >>> Put it all back together and re=3Dinstalled
> the tank and attached the
> >>> groun=
> >>> d strap to the frame, turned the key on
> and.......not working, said fuck
> >>> it=
> >>>  and started the car and did some timing
> and idle adjustments and took
> >>>  the =
> >>> car out on the road.....
> >>> Ran hot and the transmission  isn't
> shifting right.....Said fuck it
> >>> again a=
> >>> nd parked it....Then found a transmission
> fluid drip right under the
> >>> area o=
> >>> f the transmission that indicates the front
> seal is leaking......So now
> >>> the=
> >>>  lack of a working fuel gauge is the
> least of my worries.
> >>> Gonna set the car on jack stands and remove
> the tranny and replace the
> >>> fron=
> >>> t seal and while it is out I am going to put
> the stock converter back in
> >>> an=
> >>> d get the 10 inch high stall converter rebuilt
> and put it on the 496
> >>> stroke=
> >>> r motor.
> >>> Later
> >>> Bill Harrison
> >>> 65 Coronet 2 dr post
> >>> 
> >>> --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> > From: Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> >>> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:53
> PM
> >>> >=20
> >>> > I have been reading every E mail
> regarding the fuel gauges.
> >>> > I have a fuel gauge problem in MS
> Cruiser.
> >>> > I have a stock fuel sender unit that I
> bought from Kramer.
> >>> > The better, more expensive,=C2=A0 made in
> USA one. So I was
> >>> > told
> >>> > I am using autometer gauges....straight
> 12V
> >>> > When I bought the sending unit Cindy told
> me to use the
> >>> > 80-100 gauge. That is a GM gauge. (please
> correct me if I am
> >>> > wrong on the ohms) I did ask the ohms of
> the sending unit as
> >>> > I knew I was going to use autometer not
> stock.
> >>> > I fill the tank full. Gauge goes to full.
> Does not move off
> >>> > full till you are down to 5 gallons in
> the tank. Drops
> >>> > rapidly at 8-10 mpg. At 1/8 tank you are
> walking. I will not
> >>> > run out of gas.
> >>> > About a year ago I started a discussion
> on the ohms reading
> >>> > of our senders. The 4/74 is correct. I
> beleive this after
> >>> > reasearch. Light goes off, wrong gauge!!
> I bought a Chrysler
> >>> > ohm gauge from Autometer. Swapped gauges.
> NOTHING !! Went
> >>> > back to old relayable...if the gauge
> reads 1/2 STOP
> >>> > IMMEDIATELY>>BUY FUEL !!
> >>> > I have tried grounding, nothing more that
> holding up a wire
> >>> > while wife operates key and reports
> results. Nothing ,, but
> >>> > maybe not a good ground?
> >>> > Gary H made a post regarding the ground
> strap. I looked in
> >>> > my shop manual no info. I never had one
> on MS Cruiser. Now
> >>> > it has been explained better.
> >>> > Someone also made a post regarding the
> contact on the coil
> >>> > of the sending unit..need to check this.
> >>> > So Bill I do suffer your pain too! If it
> makes you feel
> >>> > better, no gauge on the Petty Car, just
> open the 8 gal fuel
> >>> > cell and look. My Rambler has a note pad
> on the rear view
> >>> > mirror instead of fuzzie dice, fill up
> every 200 miles.
> >>> > Ain't are old cars FUN? As my buddy Rich
> says "Having Fun
> >>> > Yet?"
> >>> > Ollie
> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb"
> <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:14 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> > Ya the ring, not reliable! Your car had a
> ground strap made
> >>> > of heavy tin
> >>> > that snapped over the fuel line and the
> nipple on the
> >>> > sender bridging the
> >>> > rubber hose thus the ground from the
> factory.=C2=A0 A lot
> >>> > of people removed them
> >>> > not realizing what they are or they just
> biodegraded and
> >>> > fell off.=C2=A0 You may
> >>> > get lucky and get a temporary ground
> through the straps and
> >>> > the locking ring
> >>> > but the slightest corrosion will cancel
> that out, much like
> >>> > on a dirty
> >>> > battery terminal.=C2=A0 It is called
> electrolytic corrosion
> >>> > caused by two
> >>> > dissimilar metals in contact with each
> other.=C2=A0 The
> >>> > corrosion is a good
> >>> > insulator!=C2=A0 Look at it like the
> metals don't like each
> >>> > other and build up a
> >>> > barrier so they don't have to touch each
> other!=C2=A0 I
> >>> > believe Gary H had a link
> >>> > to the re-pop of the factory ground
> bridge on here not long
> >>> > ago if you want
> >>> > to go that route.=C2=A0 For now what I
> would do (It ant
> >>> > pretty but) is get two
> >>> > hose clamps and a eyelet and a long piece
> of wire that need
> >>> > not be insulated
> >>> >  Hose clamp the wire to the nipple
> between the hose and
> >>> > base of the sender,
> >>> > jump over the hose to the fuel line clean
> it up and hose
> >>> > clamp the wire to
> >>> > the fuel line.=C2=A0 That should work as
> a ground just fine
> >>> > but, grounding it to
> >>> > the frame also will be even better.=C2=A0
> That will give
> >>> > you a three point ground
> >>> > if your with me!=C2=A0 Now if you have a
> flashing test
> >>> > light at the wire in the
> >>> > back and a good connection to your sender
> I bet your gauge
> >>> > will work!=C2=A0 Let
> >>> > me know how this works.
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> > =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF
> =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF
> >>> > =EF=
> >>> =BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF
> =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF
> >>> > Herb
> >>> >=20
> >>> > 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361
> >>> > 1959 Coronet 326 Poly
> >>> > 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly
> >>> > 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six
> >>> > 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L
> >>> > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361
> >>> > 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L
> >>> > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L
> >>> > St. Louis, MO.
> >>> >=20
> >>> > http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0
> >>> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
> =C2=A0 GOD Drives
> >>> > a Plymouth
> >>> >=20
> >>> > ".... GOD, in his FURY, drove them forth
> from Eden...."
> >>> >=20
> >>> > Genesis 3:23
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> > -------Original Message-------
> >>> >=20
> >>> > From: William Harrison
> >>> > Date: 8/18/2010 9:29:03 AM
> >>> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> >>> >=20
> >>> > Herb
> >>> > The unit is supposed to be grounded by
> the locking ring but
> >>> > it could be that
> >>> > it is not working.
> >>> > I just now remembered that after I had
> the underside of the
> >>> > car sand blasted
> >>> > I then painted it with a por 15 type of
> paint and I also
> >>> > lined the top of
> >>> > the tank area with rubber, so it could be
> that I don't have
> >>> > a ground....Doh.
> >>> >=20
> >>> > I will attach a separate ground wire
> today.
> >>> > Thanks
> >>> > Bill
> >>> > - On Wed, 8/18/10, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >=20
> >>> > > From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > Subject: Re: sending unit
> >>> > > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010,
> 10:12 AM
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > > Are you grounding the sender to the
> fuel line or
> >>> > frame, or
> >>> > > both?=C2=A0 I'm
> >>> > > talking grounding the Sender it's
> self not the tank!
> >>> > > The sender is usually
> >>> > > insulated by the O ring=C2=A0 I
> belive you said you
> >>> > had a
> >>> > > flashing light when
> >>> > > testing at the sender wire at the
> back?
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > > -------Original Message-------
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > > From: William Harrison
> >>> > > Date: 8/18/2010 8:40:17 AM
> >>> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > > Subject: sending unit
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > > I am to the point that I am really
> ready to take a BFH
> >>> > to
> >>> > > my 65 Coronet.
> >>> > > I replaced the gas tank sending unit
> and the gauge
> >>> > and
> >>> > > still no reading.
> >>> > > It just can't be 2 new sending units
> in a row can
> >>> > it??
> >>> > > Thoughts???
> >>> > > Thanks
> >>> > > Bill Harrison
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > >=20
> >>> > > ----
> >>> > > Please address private mail -- mail
> of interest to
> >>> > only one
> >>> > > person --
> >>> > > directly to that person.=C2=A0 I.e.,
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> >>> > > transactions and negotiations
> >>> > > as well as other personal messages
> only to the
> >>> > intended
> >>> > > recipient, not to
> >>> > > the Clubhouse public address. This
> practice will
> >>> > protect
> >>> > > your privacy,
> >>> > > reduce the total volume of mail and
> fine tune the
> >>> > content
> >>> > > signal to Mopar
> >>> > > topic.=C2=A0 Thanks!
> >>> > >=20
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> Discussion Guidelines:
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> >>> > > http://www
> >>> > >
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> >>> > > ----
> >>> > > Please address private mail -- mail
> of interest to
> >>> > only one
> >>> > > person -- directly to that
> person.=C2=A0 I.e., send
> >>> > > parts/car transactions and
> negotiations as well as
> >>> > other
> >>> > > personal messages only to the
> intended recipient, not
> >>> > to the
> >>> > > Clubhouse public address. This
> practice will protect
> >>> > your
> >>> > > privacy, reduce the total volume of
> mail and fine tune
> >>> > the
> >>> > > content signal to Mopar topic.=C2=A0
> Thanks!
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> Discussion Guidelines:
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> >>> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
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> >>> > [Non-text portions of this message have
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> >>> >=20
> >>> > ----
> >>> > Please address private mail -- mail of
> interest to only one
> >>> > person --=C2=A0 directly to that
> person.=C2=A0 I.e., send
> >>> > parts/car transactions and negotiations
> as well as other
> >>> > personal messages only to the intended
> recipient, not to the
> >>> > Clubhouse public address. This practice
> will protect your
> >>> > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail
> and fine tune the
> >>> > content signal to Mopar topic.=C2=A0
> Thanks!
> >>> >=20
> >>> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion
> Guidelines:
> >>> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> >>> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> > ----
> >>> > Please address private mail -- mail of
> interest to only one
> >>> > person -- directly to that person.=C2=A0
> I.e., send
> >>> > parts/car transactions and negotiations
> as well as other
> >>> > personal messages only to the intended
> recipient, not to the
> >>> > Clubhouse public address. This practice
> will protect your
> >>> > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail
> and fine tune the
> >>> > content signal to Mopar topic.=C2=A0
> Thanks!
> >>> >=20
> >>> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion
> Guidelines:
> >>> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> >>> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> >=20
> >>> >
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly
> w/goodies
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ----
> >> Please address private mail -- mail of interest to
> only one person --  directly to that person. 
> I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well
> as other personal messages only to the intended recipient,
> not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and
> fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> >> 
> >> 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion
> Guidelines:
> >> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > ----
> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to
> only one person --  directly to that person. 
> I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well
> as other personal messages only to the intended recipient,
> not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and
> fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> > 
> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> ----
> Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one
> person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send
> parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other
> personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the
> Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your
> privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the
> content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
> 
> 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> 
>