Re: sending unit

[Gary Wilson <Gwwilson67@xxxxxxxxx>]

Most likely that will work.  Tho you may end up changing the front pump seal and 
the rear seal.  Somtimes we get lucky.  I had a 64 Imperial that sat for years 
and I got away with it.  No leaks.  




----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Kinsley <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 7:28:45 AM
Subject: RE: sending unit


I have been coerced into working on a '79 'Vette. Something of interest 
to us perhaps has been pointed out to me by my Chevy boy cousin. Namely 
that when setting for long periods of time the converter drains back 
into the transmission and forces the excess fluid out the front seal. 
The 'Vette was leaking severely, lost so much fluid it wouldn't move. 
Cuz said, "Fill it, drive it, it'll be OK". I found this to be true. It 
quit leaking and is functioning properly. Now will this be the same for 
our 727's/904's???

PS: The 'Vette work has netted me some nice Mopar stuff, front wheels!!!

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
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William Harrison wrote:
> 
> Took the tank out again and removed the sending unit.
> I attached a jumper wire to the hot wire and a ground wire from the unit 
> to=
>  the frame close to the ignition switch.
> Turned the key on and lifted the float....Nothing......But, noticed a 
> sligh=
> t movement when the float was down so I reversed the position of the 
> rheost=
> at and lifted the float and got movement of my gas gauge.
> Put it all back together and re=3Dinstalled the tank and attached the 
> groun=
> d strap to the frame, turned the key on and.......not working, said fuck 
> it=
>  and started the car and did some timing and idle adjustments and took 
>  the =
> car out on the road.....
> Ran hot and the transmission  isn't shifting right.....Said fuck it 
> again a=
> nd parked it....Then found a transmission fluid drip right under the 
> area o=
> f the transmission that indicates the front seal is leaking......So now 
> the=
>  lack of a working fuel gauge is the least of my worries.
> Gonna set the car on jack stands and remove the tranny and replace the 
> fron=
> t seal and while it is out I am going to put the stock converter back in 
> an=
> d get the 10 inch high stall converter rebuilt and put it on the 496 
> stroke=
> r motor.
> Later
> Bill Harrison
> 65 Coronet 2 dr post
> 
> --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > From: Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:53 PM
> >=20
> > I have been reading every E mail regarding the fuel gauges.
> > I have a fuel gauge problem in MS Cruiser.
> > I have a stock fuel sender unit that I bought from Kramer.
> > The better, more expensive,=C2=A0 made in USA one. So I was
> > told
> > I am using autometer gauges....straight 12V
> > When I bought the sending unit Cindy told me to use the
> > 80-100 gauge. That is a GM gauge. (please correct me if I am
> > wrong on the ohms) I did ask the ohms of the sending unit as
> > I knew I was going to use autometer not stock.
> > I fill the tank full. Gauge goes to full. Does not move off
> > full till you are down to 5 gallons in the tank. Drops
> > rapidly at 8-10 mpg. At 1/8 tank you are walking. I will not
> > run out of gas.
> > About a year ago I started a discussion on the ohms reading
> > of our senders. The 4/74 is correct. I beleive this after
> > reasearch. Light goes off, wrong gauge!! I bought a Chrysler
> > ohm gauge from Autometer. Swapped gauges. NOTHING !! Went
> > back to old relayable...if the gauge reads 1/2 STOP
> > IMMEDIATELY>>BUY FUEL !!
> > I have tried grounding, nothing more that holding up a wire
> > while wife operates key and reports results. Nothing ,, but
> > maybe not a good ground?
> > Gary H made a post regarding the ground strap. I looked in
> > my shop manual no info. I never had one on MS Cruiser. Now
> > it has been explained better.
> > Someone also made a post regarding the contact on the coil
> > of the sending unit..need to check this.
> > So Bill I do suffer your pain too! If it makes you feel
> > better, no gauge on the Petty Car, just open the 8 gal fuel
> > cell and look. My Rambler has a note pad on the rear view
> > mirror instead of fuzzie dice, fill up every 200 miles.
> > Ain't are old cars FUN? As my buddy Rich says "Having Fun
> > Yet?"
> > Ollie
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb" <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> >=20
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> > Ya the ring, not reliable! Your car had a ground strap made
> > of heavy tin
> > that snapped over the fuel line and the nipple on the
> > sender bridging the
> > rubber hose thus the ground from the factory.=C2=A0 A lot
> > of people removed them
> > not realizing what they are or they just biodegraded and
> > fell off.=C2=A0 You may
> > get lucky and get a temporary ground through the straps and
> > the locking ring
> > but the slightest corrosion will cancel that out, much like
> > on a dirty
> > battery terminal.=C2=A0 It is called electrolytic corrosion
> > caused by two
> > dissimilar metals in contact with each other.=C2=A0 The
> > corrosion is a good
> > insulator!=C2=A0 Look at it like the metals don't like each
> > other and build up a
> > barrier so they don't have to touch each other!=C2=A0 I
> > believe Gary H had a link
> > to the re-pop of the factory ground bridge on here not long
> > ago if you want
> > to go that route.=C2=A0 For now what I would do (It ant
> > pretty but) is get two
> > hose clamps and a eyelet and a long piece of wire that need
> > not be insulated
> >  Hose clamp the wire to the nipple between the hose and
> > base of the sender,
> > jump over the hose to the fuel line clean it up and hose
> > clamp the wire to
> > the fuel line.=C2=A0 That should work as a ground just fine
> > but, grounding it to
> > the frame also will be even better.=C2=A0 That will give
> > you a three point ground
> > if your with me!=C2=A0 Now if you have a flashing test
> > light at the wire in the
> > back and a good connection to your sender I bet your gauge
> > will work!=C2=A0 Let
> > me know how this works.
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> > -------Original Message-------
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> > From: William Harrison
> > Date: 8/18/2010 9:29:03 AM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> >=20
> > Herb
> > The unit is supposed to be grounded by the locking ring but
> > it could be that
> > it is not working.
> > I just now remembered that after I had the underside of the
> > car sand blasted
> > I then painted it with a por 15 type of paint and I also
> > lined the top of
> > the tank area with rubber, so it could be that I don't have
> > a ground....Doh.
> >=20
> > I will attach a separate ground wire today.
> > Thanks
> > Bill
> > - On Wed, 8/18/10, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
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> > > From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 10:12 AM
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Are you grounding the sender to the fuel line or
> > frame, or
> > > both?=C2=A0 I'm
> > > talking grounding the Sender it's self not the tank!
> > > The sender is usually
> > > insulated by the O ring=C2=A0 I belive you said you
> > had a
> > > flashing light when
> > > testing at the sender wire at the back?
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> > > -------Original Message-------
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> > > From: William Harrison
> > > Date: 8/18/2010 8:40:17 AM
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: sending unit
> > >=20
> > > I am to the point that I am really ready to take a BFH
> > to
> > > my 65 Coronet.
> > > I replaced the gas tank sending unit and the gauge
> > and
> > > still no reading.
> > > It just can't be 2 new sending units in a row can
> > it??
> > > Thoughts???
> > > Thanks
> > > Bill Harrison
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> > person -- directly to that person.=C2=A0 I.e., send
> > parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other
> > personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the
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Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies


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Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly 
to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as 
other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse 
public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume 
of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!

1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and 
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.