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Re: 64 Plymouths



The major cost with a Stroker is custom forged pistons to work with the longer 4” crank.  Another expense would be larger valves if you wanted them in your ported heads; all other costs are about the same...of course any HP engine upgrades will add to the total.
Gary Pavlovich
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:09 AM
Subject: RE: 64 Plymouths
 

EFI manifold?

 

From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Kinsley
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:30 PM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 64 Plymouths

 

Yes I currently have the dual quads.  However they are on their way out.  They did well for me in race mode.  With my original 264 hot street cam they were stretching the limits. I do believe a single 4 would've been better for that cam.  However this new 284 cam is perfect!  I highly recommend it if you are going for max output.  It is even more streetable with the 2x4's than the 264.  Perfect road manners.

 

As far as stroking goes, I never considered it as it was just more cost I figured.  I'm sure it would bump up the output though.  I bored .040" which gave me 324ci.  I think the main expense would be the crank for a stroker.  Probably all other components would be similarly priced as stock size.  Depending on how radical you go the machine work price could be a bit higher if it needs clearancing, etc.. 

 

I am working on installing a 750 Eddy on my new EFI manifold as an interim measure.  This will be a good test to compare the 2x4 set-up with a single 4bbl on the same bottom end.  I predict it will be a little slower but maybe better mpg????

 

Rich Kinsley ;64 Dodge Polara LeRoar 4dr 324 poly w/goodies

 

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cool. You run the dual quads Correct? How many cubes? I’m planning my rebuild and want to find out if it is worth the extra money to build a stroker and run a single carb.

 

From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Kinsley
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 1:00 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 64 Plymouths

 

I had a best of 9.15 in the 1/8th which would theoretically be about 14.36 in the 1/4.  My previous best on my 264 cam set-up with stock heads was 9.75.  I only had 6 runs on the new 284 cam set-up and the last 3 were with a broken tailshaft housing. I also had not done any tuning yet as I use the runs to adjust the tune and I need some baseline to start with.  I was basically just getting my baseline numbers when I broke.  I am positive I would be capable of breaking into the high 8's if I pursued it further.  I feel I have accomplished enough of my goals at this time.  The Challenger SRT8 that I had raced turned a 9.12 so I would be right with him now. Time is an issue so I am going to work on my next goal of turning LeRoar into a comfy cruiser and i want to hit the mid 20's in mpg. I feel that there is more to mpg than money savings. I am also interested in distance on a tank. I'm sure the folks in the northeast wish they could go farther/longer on a tank of gas! It makes for a comfort zone in the middle of the night or when out in the boonies on a Sunday.

 

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara LeRoar 4dr 324 poly w/goodies  

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Do you know how fast your car will run the ¼?

 

From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Kinsley
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:52 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 64 Plymouths

 

There were some very fast candy striped Dodge s-wagons running back then.  I think it was some from the Ramchargers.

 

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara LeRoar 4dr 324 poly w/goodies

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:44 AM, <dcdriver@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Carl,I didn't say that the 4 doors or wagons beat the 2 doors..      lol  I just said that they not all mind you were faster usually the 4 doors and wagons were never seen again when the light changed. My 1sy car was a 55 Chebby,never got to run against any Mopars but I sure beat alot of Ferds.2nd car was a Ferd and we won't talk about that one.3rd car was a brand spankin new 69 Super Bee and I've owned Mopars ever since,even had a lil 64 Fury with a stage 3 wedge that kicked some tail.

 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Sing <hemi64fury@xxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 2:43 am
Subject: Re: 64 Plymouths

What are you smoking,from a gezer that was there

I drove a max wedge then and never got smoked by any 4 dr.

--- On Mon, 11/19/12, dcdriver@xxxxxxx <dcdriver@xxxxxxx> wrote:


From: dcdriver@xxxxxxx <dcdriver@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 64 Plymouths
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 9:25 PM

WHEN I was young,the 4 doors and wagons were usually faster cuz the owners OR drivers {if the cars were owned by a parent} usually lipped off to the 2door owners about how slow their cars were compared to the wagons an 4 doors!    :-)

 

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: furyus63 <furyus63@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Mon, Nov 19, 2012 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: 64 Plymouths

Dodger,

 

1. You've been hanging around Rich K. to long.

 

2. If this was true Gary H. would have this posted in Technical Ramblings..

 

3. The fact of the matter is that Wagons are the fastest...

 

Nick Tiberio

FuryUs63


From: Dodger7998@xxxxxxx
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 2:15:39 PM
Subject: Re: 64 Plymouths

You know that it is a scientific fact that the 4 drs. are faster than the 2 dr. cars,,,,,,,,,

 

 

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