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Re: Motor mounts



Today, I find that I have a separated motor mount on the left and a  right one that is torn. These were in the Schumacker  big block into a 318 K frame kit.  I have had them for about three-four  years, and very few miles last Fall and so far this year.  I admit, I was abuseing them  with a few  " launches"  Schumacker does not have the mounts in stock and I see they are out of stock on about all motor mounts. It appears they are made by Imperial Services.  I do not want the Chinese made ones. I found a pair of OEM  motor mount isolators on e-bay.  Doesn't that mean, made by the company that supplied Mopar and therefore made in USA? 
 With the issues mentioned in this thread, I don't think I want to try expensive polyurathane or lock type mounts , nor solid mounts.  So, I am going with the stock mounts and the Schumacker torque "strap" ........................MO

On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 12:12:09 PM UTC-5, john1964 wrote:
Hi everyone 
Steve responded, he said they still make motor mounts but everything is out of stock. They are working hard trying to catch up and will advise when they have. I have my name listed on Mancini Racings back order list. They will notify me when they have the mounts in stock. The mounts from Classic Industries shipped and should be here on the 27th. I will advise of their quality. But it can be hard to tell. Most of the innovation with the mounts are internal and can only be seen if the mount is cut apart. Classic Industries listed $99 for the pair. Imperial's listed for $199. The mounts sold by Classic Industries are "MityMounts". Both mounts use a steel insert to prevent the mount from separating. I found this description (see below) on their web site. Imperial also has a description and cross section of their mounts on their web site. I hope that Imperial gets back into operation. They do make other parts exclusive to our cars not just motor mounts. 

To develop a motor mount worthy of your car, DynaTech engineers considered variations on the “enclosed” design, but found rubber compression on this design also led to early failure under extreme conditions. Additionally, power loss due to this compression still occurred, just to a lesser degree. An entirely new design concept was called for. What DynaTech developed was its patent-pending Lock-Up® motor mount design (see illustration). This design provides the safety of an enclosed mount design, but also provides a direct steel-to-steel lock-up under acceleration. Power is transmitted without excess motion and resultant power loss. Clearances for headers and other tight-fitting components can be closer due to this reduced engine motion. But engine vibration and harshness during normal driving is isolated from the chassis just as well as with stock motor mounts. Mity-Mounts® bolt in with no modifications and look exactly like stock motor mounts when installed.
Why not solid motor mounts?
It seems paradoxical, but solid steel motor mounts actually fail very frequently. There is a very good reason why auto manufacturers use rubberized engine mounts; they prevent transmitting vibration and noise to the chassis. Solid steel mounts transmit so much vibration that they fatigue and crack the mount brackets and sometimes even cause cracks in the engine-mount crossmember or engine block itself. This is not to mention the discomfort of driving a vehicle that is much more noisy and vibrates excessively. 


MityMounts® “lock” on acceleration to provide safety and transmit power efficiently

What about urethane mounts?

Urethane has been the buzz of the suspension industry for many years now. Because it is firmer than rubber, it is well suited to suspension bushings in high-performance applications, since it “gives” less during hard cornering. However, this very feature that makes urethane a good material for suspension components can cause problems in motor mounts. Remember that a motor mount must have considerable “give” to absorb engine vibrations. DynaTech tests have shown urethane to have a tendency to “shear” in motor mount applications, particularly in vehicles with high-performance engines that have long-duration camshafts.


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On Jun 24, 2017, at 09:23, <glpav...@xxxxxxx> <glpav...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

MO,
Yes, I will let you all know how my purchase from Steve transpires.  Steve’s knowledge, expertise, and product innovation/quality is present; and the health afflictions/divorce really took a toll on him personally and the business.  If he was not dedicated and committed to providing us with quality products on a timely basis, he would not be active but simply disappeared.  His perseverance in the face of adversity gives me reasonable confidence to purchase from him again. 
 
I am ordering a custom pushbutton shift cable for my ‘65 Torqueflite from Steve/ProAmerican and will post the results.
 
Let me/us know if any of our list members contact him and/or place an order so we can get additional feedback.
 
Thank you,
Gary Pavlovich
 
From: MO
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Motor mounts
 
Let us know how you get along doing business with him.  He seems to be a good guy, very helpful, and wants to be a valuable vendor. However he has evidently had a lot of trouble getting his "act" together:  hard to get in touch with, product availability, communication with customers etc.  I know the past few years he has had personal problems , and I hope he can get back to being what he once was............................MO

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 11:27:06 PM UTC-5, john1964 wrote:
Thanks Gary, I sent him a E-mail.

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> On Jun 23, 2017, at 09:55, <glpav...@xxxxxxx> <glpav...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> MML,
>
> I just made contact with Steve Charette of the former Imperial Services, now ProAmerican a new & added resource company, and I suggest that you send him an email for your needs.
> Being aware of communication & time commitments in the distant past, I believe he is now a viable and most valuable resource for timely/necessary Mopar goods & services such as motor mounts/pushbutton shifter cables/speedo cables...etc.
> I Googled his name/information, sent him an email and left a phone message and he promptly replied the next day for follow - also confirmed with an email as to my conversation with him regarding my needed 65 Torqueflite pushbutton cable.  Therefore, I think he would be another avenue to seek for your motor mount needs.
> st...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Gary Pavlovich
>
> -----Original Message----- From: 62-65-mail...@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 6:56 AM
> To: 1962to19...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Motor mounts
>
> Yes, you should find out who manufactures the Classic Industries mounts and the brand and let us know.
>
> By the way, I believe Schumacher only distributes the poly lock mounts; Imperial Services is the place that makes
> (made?) them. It's not a good sign that no one has these in stock.
>
> Thanks,
> Gary H.
>
>> -------Original Message-------
>> From: Jimmy Peavy
>
>> Half the price is a warning to me.
>
>> On 6/23/17, Cornelius DeVries < > wrote:
>> > Hi everyone.
>> > Just a follow up to my previous question about quality motor mounts. It
>> > appears Schumacher poly lock mounts are not available at this time. Everyone
>> > that sells  them shows them to be out of stock. Schumacher's own web page
>> > has out of stock for every type of mount they sell.
>> > I did find a up graded mount at Classic Industries. They were half the price
>> > of Schumacher's. I don't know if they are of the same quality but I will
>> > find out. Thanks to everyone who answered my question.
>>
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