Re: 65 Fury 727 trans

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Yes, 2 cables as you describe.

See the "Transmissions" section about 80% down this page for assorted tech about these cable transmissions.

http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/techstuff.html

Thanks,
Gary H. 

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Mark Stinson  
>  
>  Michael so your saying this transmission has two external cables ,, on
>  up front to shift and on on the rear for the parking paw ?
>  
>  On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 9:05 PM Michael LeFevre < 
>  wrote:
>  
>  > Hi Mark,
>  > I believe you are seeing the park pawl housing. It should have a
>  > cable entering the left side which is locked in by a special bolt w/
>  > nut that is perpendicular to the cable. Loosen up the nut and tap on
>  > the nut end to move (unlock) release the cable. There is also a pipe
>  > plug which has to be removed to insert a small screw driver to pry
>  > on the spring retainer holding the inner portion of the cable to the
>  > pawl link. A picture would be great at this point but I don't have
>  > any of my FSMs handy.
>  > Mike
>  >
>  > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 8:56 PM Mark Stinson
>  >  wrote:
>  >
>  > Seams some of you know the little differences in the early 727 and
>  > later models . I have a question , I am familiar with the newer ones
>  > and have built a few but I have a 65 727 and it has some sort of
>  > valve body outside the oil pan under the rear tail housing , its
>  > missing a plug and looks damaged . What is it , can it be bypassed
>  > and of not does anyone have one I can get ? I am helping a friend
>  > with a 65 Chrysler 300 4dr ht repair . Thanks :)
>  >
>  > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 7:48 PM Jason Rhoades <j 
>  > wrote:
>  >
>  > Yes a 65 and old 727. Uses a smaller input shaft. Same number of
>  > splines. My suggestion is to tear the transmission out. And update
>  > the front pump and input shaft with parts from a 66 and newer
>  > transmission. Ideally a 68 or newer. Hunt down a transmission
>  > from motorhome wich would also have 4 pinion planetarys in it. Just
>  > my suggestions
>  >
>  > Jason
>  >
>  > Get Outlook for Android
>  >
>  > -------------------------
>  >
  Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:43:26 PM
>  > TO: 62-65 Mopar List
>  > SUBJECT: Re: 65 Fury 727 trans
>  >
>  > Hi Herb,
>  >
>  > I'm a little confused as to exactly what your question is...sorry.
>  >
>  > If you are asking for a converter recommendation, then more info
>  > would be needed (gear ratio, carb, car weight, tire height,
>  > camshaft, rpm range, etc., etc., etc...). If you talk to a good
>  > converter shop they will ask you questions about your entire
>  > combination and help you narrow things down. I used Dynamic
>  > Converters in Newark, DE (302) 454-9203 and have been very pleased
>  > with mine.
>  >
>  > You are correct. The number of splines on the input shaft of a 65
>  > 727 trans is different than a later 727 trans. The later converters
>  > appear to slide on but will not properly engage the pump which can
>  > trash the trans. Make sure you are getting a converter for a 65 727.
>  > Up to 1965 has a cable shift and the old style converter (someone
>  > please correct me if I'm wrong). 1966 started the lever shift style
>  > and the later style of converters. The converters are not
>  > exchangeable between earlier and later years
>  >
>  > I've got a 392 ci Poly stroker that dyno'd @ 405 HP & 472 TQ. I
>  > ended up with a 3,000 rpm stall, but keep in mind that my converter
>  > would likely stall higher behind your motor, and differently behind
>  > another motor. That's whay it's important to talk to the experts
>  > that build and design these things for a living. I swear they are
>  > partially filled with voodoo!
>  >
>  > Bill M
>  > 65 Coronet 500 'vert http://goo.gl/6xUS1
>  > 73 Dart Sport, 05 Ram 2500 CTD, 4WD, QC, LB, Laramie
>  > 14 Avenger R/T, 15 Durango R/T, 21 Model T Depot Hack
>  >
>  > On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 4:19 PM <herblangston51@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  > Recently built a 440 engine and purchased a Boss Hog converter,
>  > with slide onto trans shaft. Appears smaller, it’s same number of
>  > splines.
>  > I’m told there’s a defense it 65 727s, mine is cable shifted
>  > not linkage.
>  > Help!
>  > The 440 I had built, dyno 515hp at 503 ft lb.
>  > Anyone got a part number and reasonable price suggestion?
>  > Not racing just want to have fun!
>  >
> 

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