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Location: Brisbane, Australia | I have always loved the Marks Brothers especially the quick wit of Groucho and after seeing this ad I had to have one of these sharp looking cars. I hunted Australia without success until I saw a 57 2D Fireflite advertised in anAustralian car advert in a car sales mag called Unique Cars. I rang up to make a time to see the car in Melbourne (I live in Brisbane a 1000 miles away), however before I got to see the car it was sold only to be readvertized a year later by the same company AutoArt P/L. The guy who had bought the car had found a 2DR 57 Adventurer and wanted to unload the Flite. I inspected the car and brought it back to Brisbane and with it came a black hole for all my spare cash!
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Location: Fredrikstad, Norway. (Europe) | '57 DeSoto is among the very nicest FL cars. Congratulations ! And i sure love that "......and with it came a black hole for all my spare cash!". Certainly got some experience with just that. Just before Christmas I bought (saved) another 2 mopar projects. A regular (no rust) '75 Dart and a '64 New Yorker 9 pass. 4 door hard-top wagon with most options and very little rust (California car).
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Location: Vancouver, Washington | Very nice..I absolutely love the 57' Desoto's. Looks like you got a real nice project. i hear you on the blackhole...all my projects come with that too, whether I want it or not!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | The Desoto sat in my warehouse for a year before I convinced myself I hadn't bitten off mre than I could chew. I already had three other projects on the go mainly 70s Fords. However I was smitten by this 6 metre two door beauty. It had surprisingly little rust (for a 57) and as the salesman said it had most of the "jewellery". It came with factory air, power steering and 6 way power seats (none of which still worked). the engine was complete but not running and someone had already replaced the original with an S25 Firedome HEMI. I was getting itchy feet and a pink '58 Firesweep came up for sale again in Melbourne. It looked in very good condition in fact too good at the price being asked. so I flew down christmas eve 3 years ago having told my wife I was only going for a look and nothing more. Well it was better than I thought ... it was cherry!!! with only 40,000 miles on the clock. I spent 3 hours with the seller haggling ofer the price but finally it was mine. Yes, you guessed it, this was going to take some explaining. Well when it arrived and I took her 'for a spin' she loved it.
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Location: South Australia | That Fireflite is one cool car Bob,especialy loaded with all the goodies....sadly it can't be a real Chrysler product though,there's no-where NEAR enough rust in it!...Unlike my 'ol Plymouth witch not only has enough rust for it,but probably most other cars on here too!
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Location: bishop, ca | Your pic #341, above, shows a good view of the big dog 12" x 2 1/2" brakes.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | That Fireflite is one cool car Bob,especialy loaded with all the goodies....sadly it can't be a real Chrysler product though,there's no-where NEAR enough rust in it!...Unlike my 'ol Plymouth witch not only has enough rust for it,but probably most other cars on here too!
Best of luck mate...way cool.
Thanks Grant, I can't believe how lucky I was considering some of the Chryslers I've seen on this site, especially Raffaele's Italian 57 Adventurer Convertible! The boot floor had the most but when it came out of the sandblaster it had acquired some "lace" in the floor of the cabin. What really surprised me was the total lack of any paint on some of the internal panels. Being a Texas car was probably what preserved it but it had LOTS of hidden dents!! thanks for the post. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Your pic #341, above, shows a good view of the big dog 12" x 2 1/2" brakes.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Once the bare metal and external panel damage to the shell were exposed and the trunk floor repaired, it was off to the sandblaster. Soda blasting wasn't going to remove the abundant rusty surfaces but I was concerned about sandblasting as I had another dude stretch the metal on the turret and rear guards of my super straight 1969 Ford Fairmont. However 'Red' did a fantastic job and for a good price. From there it was a quick trip on the tow truck back to the shed to seal the raw metal surfaces against moisture.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Work on the '57 progressed steadily until Paul Kelly, the guy I had working on the project became too ill to continue. Another very experienced panelbeater came available and has worked on the car full time this past year.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Doc it's good to know. I have them put away in the DeSoto section of the shed. I intend to run a set of PBR discs on the front with 290 mm rotors.
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Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Nice Work!
This thing is REALLY coming a long way. Keep the pics coming. 
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Nice Work!
This thing is REALLY coming a long way. Keep the pics coming.
Thanks for the encouragement Rick, it's getting to the exciting stage now with the shell and the chassis close to coming back together (for a fitting at least)!!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Nice Work!
This thing is REALLY coming a long way. Keep the pics coming.
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As requested here are a couple more shots. The chassis was in good condition but had scratches and dents here and there from its working life. The chassis was powder coated in black (twice but thats another story) There are a some subtle mods so see if you can pick them.
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Location: Ocean Park, Washington | These shots really let me see the job I will have repairing my body. They give me hope. Thanks for all your effort and your sharing. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | These shots really let me see the job I will have repairing my body. They give me hope. Thanks for all your effort and your sharing.
It's a pleasure and I'm sure you can all identify with the effort involved in bringing one of these sleeping beautys back to life - it takes a bit more than a princes' kiss!!!!! The above photos believe it or not are the distillation of more than 2 years work so far!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beautiful work. I've got a general question, why do folks put a coat of primer on before they do the body work? I've seen this in photos of several restorations. Thanks.
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Hi Eric, as you can see from the photos a lot of body filler had to be scraped off leaving the bare metal. If it was repaired straight away there would be no need to prime first, but with such large areas this is not practical and the panels could become rusty on the raw porous surface. The Deoxydene etch primer also shows up the imperfections better. Once the shell was sandblasted, the very thin corroded panels had become more obvious but had to be sealed before each 'lacy' section could be addressed. My spray painter is paranoid about surface rust preventing good paint adhesion even if the rust is sanded off before primer is applied. I wasn't even allowed to touch the blasted raw metal with my bare hands before it was sealed. Here in Brisbane it is quite humid and we have been known to get a lot of rain ( remember last summers floods). Thanks for your interest, Bob.
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Location: Connecticut | Fins/413 - 2012-01-03 7:06 AM Beautiful work. I've got a general question, why do folks put a coat of primer on before they do the body work? I've seen this in photos of several restorations. Thanks. After sandblasting, you are left with bare metal. Unless you live where there is 0% humidity, that bare metal will start rusting shortly after being exposed to the air. The epoxy primer is a barrier coat to keep that from happening. Modern epoxy primers are designed to accept body filler, unlike primers of years ago. There is also an etching component in the primer to neutralize any microscopic rust that is left after blasting. Ron
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Location: bishop, ca | In Re: pic #341, the 12" x 2 1/2" brakes were the largest size that were offered in the FWDLK era.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | In Re: pic #341, the 12" x 2 1/2" brakes were the largest size that were offered in the FWDLK era.
Thanks Neil I'm going to have a look at putting them on my '58 Firesweep then I can do up the old ones as a spare. |
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Great work, Bob!
It's always wonderful to see DeSotos going to a good home! You're going to have a couple of great cars, thanks to all of your hard work.
Thanks for posting the photos...and please keep them coming!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Rosy, at last someone with a 57 DeSoto two door! Is that your black and white? Thanks for your post it is encouraging to see the interest in the 57s!!!!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | I found a few more progress shots of the '57 Flite. These were taken late last year in one of the fitouts. John Dawson, who is now doing the panel work refuses to do anything but the best quality work (he is actually fussier than me, the Virgo!). His brother, Ian is doing all the paint work and is just as anal when it comes to quality. Hopefully, you will soon see the fruits of their labour.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | What happened to the DeS motor? Great work BTW
The old 341 motor is on a pallet stored in the desoto part of the workshop. It was NOT the original engine but an S25 out of a firedome. It had grenaded itself long before I bought the vehicle. As you can see in the pictures it has plenty of crank case ventilation via the sump.
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Location: USA - KY | earleebob1 - 2012-01-04 3:58 PM
Rosy, at last someone with a 57 DeSoto two door! Is that your black and white? Thanks for your post it is encouraging to see the interest in the 57s!!!!!
Bob
Yes, Bob, that is my much beloved '57 Firesweep. I'll attach a photo or two for inspiration. If you haven't already, you must also google "Ed Petrus 1957, the ultimate 1957 DeSoto site" for tons of great info and even more inspiration!
"DeSoto and Barbaro, the race horse"
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Oops...that photo was a tad large!
Have you made a final decision as to what colours your DeSotos will be when they are all done?
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Location: Ocean Park, Washington | Not too many cars look good with skirts, but yours does. Great LARGE picture!!! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | G'day Rosy, thank you for the great photo. What a striking car. I also think the skirts finish it off. The shot is a little bit large for me to view without scrolling but I will be downloading and printing it for the wall of my workshop. I have visited Ed Petrus' site often and infact Ed has been most helpful with my project. He, like many on this site, know soo much about these beautiful big-finned autos.
There are those that say "Cars, like gloves, should be black or white" and your 'Sweep is a great example ot this!!
From the start, my Fireflite was going to be classic Red and White, just like all the advertising posters of the day. Having seen all the colour combinations available from the cars on this and Ed's site, it has been hard to make a final decision. With a car this size, the colour combination has to be BRIGHT and BOLD especially with all that CHROME. Ian (my spray painter), has been kind enough to spray some test colours on one of the front guards. Ed Petrus has also gone to some trouble to track down the PPG paint numbers of some original 'Flite colours and found me the code for the original "cloud white".
I have attached a photo of what I hope my car will look like (paintwise anyway).
The guys start back at work on the car next Monday, so hopefully I will have some progress pix to post soon.
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Thank you, John and Bob.
That red and white and CHROME combination is going to be beautiful!
I've been to Australia, Bob, and I'm way jealous 'cause not only do you live in one wonderful country, you have TWO grrrreat cars!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | WARNING: THESE PHOTOS MAY DISTRESS SOME VIEWERS!
As the '57 will have over 500HP, I decided to go RHD (not that you have to here anymore) as I would feel more in control on a familiar side of the car in case it 'stepped out' under power! The Hemi is a 1957 Chrysler 392 cu in which I had built in Daytona USA and shipped here.
Converting the dash and steering to RHD has been by far the MOST expensive part of the restoration so far, but it will leave people scratching their heads – I hope!
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G'day Tom the Hemi was built by DAD Daytona Auto Designing run by Joe Bergeron. He and his son built the motor. I visited him when it was almost completed to meet him and check on the work. He is a Hemi man through and through and a nice bloke to boot! Here is a link to one of the test and tune videos. The engine is started about 1.20 min into the clip.
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Location: Fredrikstad, Norway. (Europe) | Thank you very much for all the pictures. This is really what i like. Couldn't find anything better on any site. Don't see much of this in this country anymore. Garagelife was very good a while back. At times, even better than cruising. Haven't been able to work in the garage for a while because my "black hole" now is my houses and properties. Really want to go back to the garage now, instead of moving out of the country. But, unfortunately, I am not going to be 200 years or more, of which I would have to be to restore all my projects. Aint gettin' any younger ither.
Just looking at that empty bodyshell makes my heart jump. The '56 to '61 Desotos are sooo beautyful, especially the '57 models. Sight.
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Location: Orlando | earleebob1 - 2012-01-10 7:23 PM G'day Tom the Hemi was built by DAD Daytona Auto Designing run by Joe Bergeron. He and his son built the motor. I visited him when it was almost completed to meet him and check on the work. He is a Hemi man through and through and a nice bloke to boot! Here is a link to one of the test and tune videos. The engine is started about 1.20 min into the clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u133upcVgBY I had him rebuild my 325 Dodge hemi. I just got it back last weekend. I visited him on a regular basis watching the progress on my motor. I agree, he is a good 'bloke' ;) Here are a couple pics of my motor:
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thank you everyone for the favourable comments, I wasn't sure how the butchering of the dash would be received! The dash work ws carried our by a brilliant Australian fabricator by the name of Paul Kelly who has built several custom rods, 'lead sleds' and show cars. The 18 or so photos dont really do justice to the amount of work and design involved. Unlike the easily swappable Dodge (or even Mustang) dashes, almost everything had to be re-made in mirror image because it sloped the wrong way.
The windscreen wiper actuators had to be totally redesigned so that they didnt foul on the steering column and Vintage Air A/C. I was determined to have a push button tranny and, that it had to look like it was meant to be there.
The second phase of the dash reconstruction was undertaken by John Dawson, who has restored and Bob Hamiltonized a couple of my other cars including a very quick '56 Holden (baby chevy) sleeper equiped with a 450HP six cyl M3 BMW engine and g'box ( but that's another story). After Kelly became ill, John stepped in to finish the dash and indeed the rest of the project. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | LOL Greg, I was waiting for that comment! I resisted the urge to remind all of the 'left hook' people of the error of their ways as I'm sure it has been said before. I do have the advantage of having two DeSotos (book-ends) one LHD and one the way God intended RHD! I have provided some photos for all those who have difficulty coming to grips with this driving concept. I had this same problem with Beta vs VHS, cassettes vs 8 Track and IBM vs Apple. In all cases the better option was ignored and the inferior system adopted!!!
As far as the bonnet (oops hood) clearance on the motor, Joe (DAD) stuck the air ram on while he was testing for appearance but he did forget about how little clearance we have with the high-rise manifold and velocity enhancing spacers. Even without the ram or the 1" spacers, we have only 670 mm (2 3/4") from the top of the carbs to the bonnet (er.. hood). It is going to be tight but I have decided to use two modified 4BBL desoto adventurer low profile units. If worst comes to worst we will mill some meat off the inlet manifold.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Your project runs counter to my sensibilities, but it is impressive work, nonetheless.
Enjoying this thread a lot.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | The final part of the RHD conversion was the fitting of the power steering unit which was transplanted from a Toyota Crown. To facilitate this we had to reposition the engine and at the same time lower it in the engine bay to permit the carbs to clear the hood. The engine originally was offset 1 1/2" to the right to clear the original p'steering unit so we moved it 3" to the left. Some further adjustments were necessary to the drive train for all this to line up.
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I forgot to mention, Bob, that I'm jealous that your pink Firesweep came with the dual rear antenna, and the "Deluxe" roof trim pieces already in place.
I've found the antennae (a miracle), but I still want the roof trim. 
This is such an interesting (and amazing) thread!
Keep on a-postin'!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Rosy, I guess I was lucky with those (and didn't know it)!! I also noticed, while I was theiving the boot lock striker plate from the pink car, that there is a metal box behind the back seat and just visible from the boot, with what looks like radio valves and wiring to it. Does anyone know its function? Is it a collector for the aerials or some sort of booster amphlifier for the radio?? There are no speakers in the back.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Sven finally got a chance to crawl into the depths of the boot of the Pink Sweep this arvo to take a couple of pix... not much to see!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi, I have another question. I bought this speedometer/odometer unit on eBay and fitted it today to my refurbished dash binnacle. However i noticed the odometer numbers are red while the one Ireplaced had white letters. What car is this unit for?????
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Location: New Castle PA | 1957 DeSotos are correct with either the red or the white numbers. I have many pictures of both. I don't know if both versions came from the factory, or if a replacement unit had the red. either way, I'd use it.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Ed, very flattering but Raffaele is my hero as he's doing all the work himself!! My job in the project is to feed the "black hole"!!! and organize! 
Regarding the red numbers, I decided to put the odometer/speedo in anyway as the white numbers were flaked and faded. And as you can see they don't look at all out of place with all that RED!!!
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I dont think my dodge will come out as nice, but who knows, early stages still
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | As you can see we are finally in COLOUR! And I'm getting excited even though there is a fair way to go!!!!!!!
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The painting stage is soooo exciting!
It won't be long now before it's done!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | I was going to ask you guys that!!!!!!! We have been kicking this around all week!!
But seriously, the alternator is second easiest. I also have a power steering pump to fit (easiest) and then there's the A/C compressor!
I will be mounting the alternator in the bottom right corner as you face the motor from the front. The water pump pulley and the double V belt drive on the harmonic balancer, as supplied by the engine builder, are too close to the front face of the motor to be useful!!!
On my engine it all hinges on the water pump pulley, so we are going to find a std. shallow pressed steel Chevy pulley from the wreckers which is only about 1" deep instead of mine which is about 3" fron the front of the pump boss to the v drive. There will then be plenty of space for the alternator. Then I'll turn up a spacer to line up the 2 belt drive off the balancer. Once the brackets are fabricated and the Alt. lined up, I'll buy an aftermarket WP pulley and turn up a new double pulley. I have bought three "low mount" brackets from 'HOT HEADS' for each of the bolt-ons but these are also too close to the body. However, before I send two of them back I will make a pattern so we can fabricate our own.
The power steer bracket looks like it will work.
The A/C compressor will have to be located in the valley made by the rocker cover and the front carby and with the extra clearance produced by the modified pulleys should mount there without too much drama. Iam going to stick the radiator in temporarily to make sure there is still room with the mods.
I will keep you abreast of our progress. It will be soon though, as it is holding up assembly of the inner guards and guards on the car as we want to avoid scratching paint.
BTW all suggestions welcome.
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Inner fender panels were never body color. Detroit cars were grey. LA cars were P&A Black.
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For 58 They were Argent.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Oops! Now you tell me!!! It's not that I don't care or that I'm lazy. and it's not too late to repaint the inner guards. It was certainly debated with the Dawson boys at length and my preference was infact, iridescent dark grey as on the steering column and dash gauges! However, there are many things on this car that we didnt know (being downunder in the deep, deep south) or that are personal preferences (if you look close)! 
So I do appreciate you're pointing it out, Brent and I've taken it on board. They might yet end up grey or P&A Black (what ever that is)!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Mark for what it's worth I just received these lo-res images from Hot Heads showing the upper brackets. I don't think they look very pretty on the motor- more like a singer sewing machine with all the attachments going at once!
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Location: USA - KY | Ed says in another thread, no red hood springs unless you have a '57 Firesweep.
This paint is looking gorgeous...you're car has come together so quickly, especially considering all of the work involved!
You are going to be SOOOOO glad that you bought this car when you're out there, driving around and listening to all the ohhhs and ahhhs.
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I have looked at those brackets on HH. However, I have noticed that once you head down this path, the GM adaptions become a slippery slope. EG. Use the timing plate adaptor and GM Water pump and then you need GM Pulleys and a new radiator becuase the hose positions get swapped! Use the HH intake and you need to fabricate a mount off the intake to support the stock generator. Dump the generator and you need to get a GM alternator and power steering pump. Change those and then you have to convert from 6V to 12V!!!
All small potatoes for you I'm sure considering the work I saw on the dash to convert the car to right hand drive. But a bit more than I wanted to do to my car. I wanted to swap the engine and keep it close to original. I didn't want to completely re-engineer it. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Mark, I know what you're saying, sorry I couldnt be of help. I still have the original generator so I'll see what I can come up with trying to attach it to the 392 and make it look stock.
BTW I suppose I did get a bit carried away with the dash but I wanted it to look factory original but "in the looking glass".
I love this car, I love its outragous, imposing size, its Exner aerodynamic fins, its drag race bred Hemi, its sleek ageless classic lines, its Chrysler heritage and now its Brand New yet brazen appearance!!!!!! Ah! I feel good |
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Location: USA - KY | earleebob1 - 2012-01-19 12:42 AM
BTW all suggestions welcome. :)
...OK...when it's all done, put the car in my name and on the next boat to Kentucky!
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Location: USA - KY | earleebob1 - 2012-01-19 12:42 AM
BTW all suggestions welcome. :)
...OK...when it's all done, put the car in my name and on the next boat to Kentucky!
(My car needs a sibling... )
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Location: Michigan | Bob, If you can do it, why not! You obviously not only have the ability but the means so more power to you! I just don't have the space to work on mine like that, at least for now... maybe in a few years. Need to move first. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | G'day Mark, I have not had chance yet to look at your generator fitment, however I spent a couple of hours on the weekend setting up the boltons for my 392. I am fairly pleased with the positions which will require only simple brackets which Karl and I will fabricate in mild steel this week. Then we'll get them water cut in AN grade alloy. The power steer pump is represented in cardboard but I have included a pic of the compact pump/resevoir I have ordered from 'Summit Racing'.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | The Shell and the Chassis have finally been re-united hopefully for the last time!!!! I am very pleased with the colours and the quality of the paint job. We are starting from the rear and have begun reattaching the repolished and repaired bright work and rechromed pieces to the body.
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Location: Perth Australia | That looks great Bob
I wish mine was progressing like that
Times a biggy for me
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Mark the Power Steering Pump is Saginaw P Series, Universal
Summit Racing Equiptment:
Part Number: MCH-9600
Reservoir Style: Attached
Reservoir Finish: Polished
Fittings Included: Yes
Inlet Quantity: One
Inlet Attachment: Hose barb
Inlet Size: 3/8 in.
Outlet Quantity: One
Outlet Attachment: Inverted flare
Outlet Size: 5/8-18 in. inverted flare
Pulley Attachment Style: Keyway
Pulley Included: No
Pump Finish: Polished
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Mark, I just took the original radiator down to the local radiator shop, got them to check the core, give it a clean, panel beat the few dents out of the tanks and move the bottom inlet to the opposite side.
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In Aus they use reflective paint on the number plates, Makes it easier when you get busted with a speed or red light camera
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Uuurrrgghh - thats' totally uncool then!!! |
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Sorry if it's been discussed before, but what tires are you putting on the car, Bob?
PS...looking good!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Rosy I have 3 sets of tyres
The ones you see on the car are front: 205.60R.15 and the rears are 295.50R.15
I also have a std set which will take the original hubcaps 235.60R.14
plus a drag racing set: Hosier Front runners 25X4.5X15 and Hosier rear slicks 26X8X15
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | I have purchased a run-about 1958 vintage Forward look... ing boat to tow behind the '57 Flite to the show and shines. It should look trick when I've done it up. I'm sure there are still plenty of these Bell Boys in the States but I have been searching for one like this for some time.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Alright, Bob ... I've sat quietly by. But now I can see you are plain "certified" !
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Excentric yes, certifiable maybe, but I'm not alone!!!
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Now I have to buy a finned boat to go with my finned cars
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | dukeboy - 2012-01-28 3:18 AM
DANG! Love the rear "Mini-tubbed" look!!! Awesome Looking Car mate!
Thanks Duke, it took a bit of engineering to make that happen and then not look obvious!!!!! thats a set on 10s under there.
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Location: Michigan | Ya know... I always have wanted a vintage boat.... I wonder if they ever made em in wood like that. If I found one .. I don't think I would be able to control myself.. it would have to come home.. and then I would have to find a place to keep it. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2012-01-28 10:17 AM
Ya know... I always have wanted a vintage boat.... I wonder if they ever made em in wood like that. If I found one .. I don't think I would be able to control myself.. it would have to come home.. and then I would have to find a place to keep it.
Funny you should ask! this was sent to me last night by a mate who saw the thread
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks to Ed Petrus I have tracked down the sister car to my 57 Fireflite in Melbourne. It is owned by an engineer, Ian who has had the car since 1997. It may upset a few purists as it is to have some mods including an under bonnet 671 huffer for his Hemi and acording to Ian, will be a blue and white version of my 'Flite. Can't wait to see it happen? Also hard to believe, his business partner David has a 57 Firedome RHD as his daily driver!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | a little more glamorous than the rebuilding of the front seats is the installation of the aircon , new wiper motor and building of fuse and relay module, MSD unit and wiring harness. The original radio will be back soon with its new FM module so it can take its place in the dash.
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it's first time to see your thread, you are crazy to jigsaw the dash, but it's cool to see a RHD DeSoto, and the result is more than perfect.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Tom, it is starting to come together. We have done so much on the conversion I keep forgetting it must look strange to the rest of the world! After Easter the dash should be fully back together and the radio installed so it will really look the part.
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Something really rewarding about those first bits of shine going back on.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | d500neil - 2012-04-07 8:21 AM
Woolloomooloo, y'all!
Here's one specially for you, Neil (keep a listen out for Woolloomooloo!)
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | This is coming along very nicely, you are doing such a fantastic job, your skills are very evident by the completed work thus far!
Do you plan on insulating the body for road noise like originally done, with fiberglass matting ( dash/cowl areas) and acoustic deadener /undercoating on the floors, or do you have plans to use other material or anything at all?
I once drove a frame-off restored Mopar that had none of the sound deadening materials replaced and it was the noisiest thing on wheels I've ever driven at highway speeds.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | imopar380 - 2012-04-07 2:04 PM
This is coming along very nicely, you are doing such a fantastic job, your skills are very evident by the completed work thus far!
Do you plan on insulating the body for road noise like originally done, with fiberglass matting ( dash/cowl areas) and acoustic deadener /undercoating on the floors, or do you have plans to use other material or anything at all?
I once drove a frame-off restored Mopar that had none of the sound deadening materials replaced and it was the noisiest thing on wheels I've ever driven at highway speeds.
Hello Ian, first off I am the project manager and financier with a fantastic team of mates who are artisans with metal, wiring, fibreglass, paint and mechanical aptitude. Without them this project would not have happened. I get to say what gets done and when I'm not happy with the result (which isnt often). I say how I want the car to look, the special features like placement of the push buttons and the trans brake, intrgrating the new AC slides and switches so they look original, how large I want the back wheels to be, where I want the alternator, AC compressor and power steering pump to go and these guys make it work. I welcome input from the team (and have heated discussion about my ideas). I still get to do some hands on stuff but am busy running a business which in turn helps fuel my classic car addiction.
As regards insulation against road noise, we have the 8 or so rubber spacers which insulate the chassis from the shell. I chose not to spray body deadener on either side of the floor because it looks so good in paint. My upholsterer assures me that the materials he will be using on the floor, roof, firewall and behind the back seat will do the job. He has done three Beasty cars for me sofar and all have minimal road noise. However, I still like to be able to hear the stereo rumble of a V8 in full flight.
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Location: Perth Australia | Bob
I do not know if this is supposed to be a trade secret or not, but do you have a budget for this build and if so, how is it going?
For everything you have done and I can see being done, this is surely going to be a high priced car when finished?
Just love it and to echo some coments from above, you can park it at my place (cheaper than sending it to the states
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | ttotired - 2012-04-07 6:14 PM
Bob
I do not know if this is supposed to be a trade secret or not, but do you have a budget for this build and if so, how is it going?
For everything you have done and I can see being done, this is surely going to be a high priced car when finished?
Just love it and to echo some coments from above, you can park it at my place (cheaper than sending it to the states
with Kelly getting sick and having to find another restorer at trade rates, I'd say I am a bit over budget but then again the result is probably better than what I initially set out to achieve. I dont like half measures and my team won't do anything but the best so it costs, but like all good things, the quality lingers long after the price is forgotten!
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Location: Australia | earleebob1 - 2012-04-07 8:17 AM
Hey it's great to hear from a local, do you have a forward look?
Not a forward look owner yet , but I'm working on it . On a side note have you ever raced your Holden at the Warwick Six Banger Nationals. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | mo-cars - 2012-04-07 8:45 PM
earleebob1 - 2012-04-07 8:17 AM
Hey it's great to hear from a local, do you have a forward look?
Not a forward look owner yet , but I'm working on it . On a side note have you ever raced your Holden at the Warwick Six Banger Nationals.
I have raced at Warwick, its a layback track and a very friendly atmosphere. I've raced both my FJs but the one you may be referring to is in this clip.
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Location: Brisbane | Hey Bob, did you prefer the look of the satin black dash or was the shine to great from the previous red paint? Dan |
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Location: Perth Australia | By the way Bob
Thanks for the inspiration
Between little breaks when I get back on here, I am at my dodge again
Rear parcel shelf and L/H dog leg.
I am no panel beater, so doing these rust repairs is hard yards for me
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | coupeman - 2012-04-07 9:24 PM
Hey Bob, did you prefer the look of the satin black dash or was the shine to great from the previous red paint? Dan
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Location: Australia | earleebob1 - 2012-04-07 9:01 PM
mo-cars - 2012-04-07 8:45 PM
earleebob1 - 2012-04-07 8:17 AM
Hey it's great to hear from a local, do you have a forward look?
Not a forward look owner yet , but I'm working on it . On a side note have you ever raced your Holden at the Warwick Six Banger Nationals.
I have raced at Warwick, its a layback track and a very friendly atmosphere. I've raced both my FJs but the one you may be referring to is in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz090eyQtLs
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Bob
I think I know both your FJ Holdens , the other one is two tone blue , wide wheels n hub caps , with BMW six ' correct ? . I race at that event with my Valiant Ute , so hope to see you there this September so we can chew the fat on all things 6 cylinder and F.L .
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When I first looked at the first photo in your last group of pic's, I thought that the red item on the roof (car cover?) was a big, red bow!
I guess the DeSoto is a present, of sorts.
Can't wait to see it all done in all of its DeSotoliciousness.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | It does look like a bow... Not a bad idea for when it's finally done!!!!!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Not too much to see this last week. The A/C & heater hoses have been run to the bulk head. the bonnet has been fitted to check carb clearance (no dont ask!). The A/C swith gear is ready to be mounted. the SS corner mouldings required a "Mothers Look" to be found amongst the many parts. As we had no success tracking down the dealer emblem on the boot ( trunk) we decided to make one based roughly on the dirt smudge left after the original was prized off. Most of the zinc plating is back, sorted and has allowed fitting of the window mechanisms etc.
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Wow! That new "Dawson" tag turned out great!
Good work!
She's goin' to be apple!
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Location: South Australia | Good to see your gerat rate of progress Bob.The car realy is looking a million bucks!
Looks like your Desoto come from the same neck of the woods as my '57 Belverdere.Mine was delivered to "Dick Poe-Chrysler-Plymouth Inc" of El Paso in January of 1957 and i'm guessing it spent most of it's life in roughly that area,as i found the last registered owner was from Alemeda and the bloke that bought it to Australia picked it up in El Paso.
It's a bit of a treat to find out some of your cars history.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | muddy - 2012-04-18 3:58 PM
Good to see your gerat rate of progress Bob.The car realy is looking a million bucks!
Looks like your Desoto come from the same neck of the woods as my '57 Belverdere.Mine was delivered to "Dick Poe-Chrysler-Plymouth Inc" of El Paso in January of 1957 and i'm guessing it spent most of it's life in roughly that area,as i found the last registered owner was from Alemeda and the bloke that bought it to Australia picked it up in El Paso.
It's a bit of a treat to find out some of your cars history.
Top work again Bob.
Grant, the history on my car is a bit sketchy. It had a bumper sticker on the rear bar which showed it was owned or driven by a student fom Texas Uni in the sixties. It would be lovely to have as much history as Raffael in Italy has on his fantastic project! cheers
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | May has been a bit slow as we have been waiting for refurbished parts to arrive back. Almost 1/3 of the bright stainless is still with the polisher holding up progress on the fitment of the windows. The new side glass pieces have been cut, furnace hardened and they look great and fit well. The colour of the glass is a very close match to the original Solex. Both doors have been fitted temporarily so adjustments can be made. Unfortunately the front panels need to come off one more time as we noticed that the front harmonic balancer seal was not properly fitted and is leaking oil. This is annoying as the sump has to come off to remove and refit the parts which means lifting the engine sufficiently to get to the sump. Disappointed that such an obvious thing was overlooked by the US engine builder.
The air cleaners are finished and await bead blasting and gold paint. They now fit snugly under the bonnet with good clearance.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks for the support, it is getting exciting but still a ways to go! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | CAN ANYONE HELP ME
I need a good quality rubber/plastic moulding for the RHS top of the bailey channel adjacent to the quarter vent window for my 1957 2D Flite. The moulding which is metal backed is held in place by a rivett. Please PM me if you have something to offer. I believe the part is common to several of the FLs from 1957 to 1959.
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Looking SO fabulous already! Incredibly beautiful work.
I just CAN'T wait to see the photos of your wonderful DeSoto tearing up the streets of Brisbane! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi Rosy its getting close to having all the external panels on for the last time. I'm not sure how long it will take to fix the Hemi but once it's done the guards will go on. The last piece of chrome for the dash arrives tomorrow so then the dash will all come together. I have chosen the leather for the seats and the interior roof lining. Just waiting to hear from the upholsterer for a time slot. I need a small part before we can assemble the RHS door but John Fowlie is working on that for me
so you like Italian donuts hmmm...zeppola di San Giuseppe
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Oh...I forgot to mention that Gary Goers might have that part you are looking for; the one you mentioned above - " rubber/plastic moulding for the RHS top of the bailey channel"? I have no idea if he would have something like that, but it might be a place to start looking?
http://www.garygoers.com/
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | thanks to Gary Goer we now have the rubber mouldings for the top of the quarter windows and a brand new hood lining. Paul Kelly has been busy fabricating the rear parcel shelf and the door cards in fibre glass. These take considerable time as Paul likes to creat a mould to cast the finished product rather than go straight in and make the part in glass... Time consuming but he tells me it is worth the effort. here are some shots of the process.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | A very special thanks to ROSY (FIN ME) who has offered her help in the sourcing of hard-to-get parts resulting in their successful acquisition. It tis greatly appreciated.
Thanks also to Gary Goer and Charlotte who are so professional and provide a fast and friendly service and the supply of quality value-for-money after-market FL parts!!!!!!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | db300 - 2012-07-01 3:49 PM
How did you lower the front and rear? Car looks great!
Hi Dave, the rear springs were reset lower and an extra leaf added. The front has not yet been beefed up - it's easy to adjust the height by winding up or reducing the tension in the front tortion bars. I'm told that the 300's have a higher rated tension than my Desoto so if it is too soft a ride I will investigate this.
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Surely Australia's nicest (and most expensive!) De Soto...
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Very impressive work - a very good idea to make the door carboard in fibre glass - that will fix the problem forever! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | DOOR CARDS FOR THE DESOTO, RUNNING THE FUEL AND BRAKE LINES AND FABRICATING THE BRACKETS FOR THE BOLT-ONS.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | a few more self-explanatory progress photos
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Thanks for the update!
I was just thinking about your car, and the latest developments!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | work is still progressing but lots of hidden stuff. The mighty Hemi has been fired up without the mufflers (Mmmmm.... hemi stereo!) power steering pump and P/S unit finally plumbed together. The brakes are fitted and bled and the door cards have been shaped and are starting to look the part. The radiator has been dismantled with top and bottom tank being removed. A transmission oil cooler piping was fabricated and fitted into the bottom tank. The top tank was repaired and panel beated and a new overflow pipe fitted. The radiator is now being reassembled ready for painting (photo tomorrow)
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Location: Castlemaine Victoria Australia | Hey Bob, your car is absolutely outstanding!
I was just wondering about your disc upgrade? Where did it come from...Hoppers Stoppers or the Castlemaine Rod Shop? as It will be the first thing im going to do when my 55 NY lands from the US. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | craigt - 2012-08-31 1:44 PM
Hey Bob, your car is absolutely outstanding!
I was just wondering about your disc upgrade? Where did it come from...Hoppers Stoppers or the Castlemaine Rod Shop? as It will be the first thing im going to do when my 55 NY lands from the US.
Hi Craig, the brake setup came from Hoppers but it is one we got them to modify. If you mention my job to them I'm sure you will get the right one. It is a great setup and easy to install (thanks to our refined design! Ha!)
I have had a few enquiries so I will post some photos of the brake mods. How far away is the '55?
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | earleebob1 - 2012-08-31 3:46 PM
craigt - 2012-08-31 1:44 PM
Hey Bob, your car is absolutely outstanding!
I was just wondering about your disc upgrade? Where did it come from...Hoppers Stoppers or the Castlemaine Rod Shop? as It will be the first thing im going to do when my 55 NY lands from the US.
Hi Craig, the brake setup came from Hoppers but it is one we got them to modify. If you mention my job to them I'm sure you will get the right one. It is a great setup and easy to install (thanks to our refined design! Ha! )
I have had a few enquiries so I will post some photos of the brake mods. How far away is the '55?
Bob
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Bob, your thread is a rich source of inspirations for me.
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | The enthusiasm of this guy is a real joy, isn't it?
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | thanks for the kind words, yes I am a sick puppy when it comes to cars!
Here, as promised, a couple of shots of the updated radiator complete with auto cooler all ready for painting.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2012-09-04 11:01 AM
Out of curiousity, who did you get the headliner from? Were you satisfied with the quality?
Hi Mark, it came from Gary Goers and the trimmer commented on how good it was!
yagotta Love Gary Goers!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | it is hard to believe the air cleaners adorning the hemi started out like this. here are some photos of the fabrication of the air cleaners and a pic of our inspiration
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | G'day guys, can anyone tell me if it is normal for the area around the window winder on the the rear trim card to bulge out about an inch on my 57 flight?????
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Gee that didnt stay up long!
any comments please on "the inch bulge around the window winder on the the rear trim card"!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | 57Desotodome - 2012-09-21 10:51 PM
In the parts catalog there seems to be a spring pressing the trim card against the vinder. This will deform the cardboard over time.
Thanks for the reply Ole. I checked out my 58 Sweep and it has a bulge and the conical spring behind the trim. Does anyone know if the Adventurer is the same?
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Ole Iam now trying to source a pair of electric rear window mechanisms as I would like to eliminate the 'bulge'. I have asked Big M but he has only 4 door units.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi all, sadly John Dawson my good mate and main man on the project was tragically killed in a vintage biplane crash here in Queensland along with his wife and another motor racing mate the pilot, Desi Porter. We will regroup and push on but it is hard to look at the car and not think of him. what a talent he was!!!!
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Location: Perth Australia | I am sorry for your loss Bob
I saw the reports on the news about that.
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Bob, can I ask that you pass on my condolences to those left behind?
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Location: Southern CA | earleebob1 - 2012-09-06 3:00 AM
it is hard to believe the air cleaners adorning the hemi started out like this. here are some photos of the fabrication of the air cleaners and a pic of our inspiration
I just saw this thread for the first time and I'm really enjoying your build. Your car is awesome and I really like your air cleaner idea and the execution of it is very cool. Soon you'll be smoke'n the rear tires...
Sorry about your friend...
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Bob, I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your friend John.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Life must go on - and as the team building the Desoto has told me, John would want it finished!
I have been approached by Paul Kelly whom I had working on the car when the resto began (before he got sick). Well he wanted to come back to help finish the Flite!! He is feeling better and is also a clever guy.
Karl, who had worked closely with John, is excited about working with Paul again in getting the 57 finished (so am I!!). Over the past week, Paul has organized to have the dash pad vacuum-covered by the dashboard restoration people and has installed it in the car. Lined glovebox and lid have also been fitted. Door cards have been tidied up in preparation for the car to be sent to the trimmers.
The vinyl colours have been selected and an embossing tool made to impress the logo on the appropriate spots on the vinyl. We have altered the rear window winder handle with the inclusion of a spacer to allow the trim to remain flat instead of having the spring pushing it out.
There are still some dramas with the windscreen rubbers (er… gaskets) but hopefully Jeff Nichols will supply the correct ones for the job.
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Your car is amazing!
It will be a great tribute to your friend.
Can't wait to see you tearing up the streets of Brisbane in that HOT FireFlite!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | a little more refinment with the installation of front and rear courtesy subtle foot lights
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Dawson would be a great name for your car if you don't already have one in mind. Or the Johnny D.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | bel5758 - 2012-11-02 6:14 AM
John, Mrs. Dawson, and Desi - may you have blue skies and a tailwind, always.
Dawson would be a great name for your car if you don't already have one in mind. Or the Johnny D.
You're doing the work of the gods now. Keep it up. Cheers.
Funny you should mention that. I think Dawson would be a great name infact it already has Dawson on the trunk (original dealer emblem) which I retained as a tribute to both the Dawson boys- John did the panel while Ian did the paint!
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | This is an amazing renovation overall, but what really impress me is the dash pad and the mild modifications with the AC outlets, that still blends in nicely.
That said, it's also an amazing workload for to sit on the wrong side when driving the car
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Us Aussies sit on th "Right" side
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | wizard - 2012-11-03 3:16 AM
This is an amazing renovation overall, but what really impress me is the dash pad and the mild modifications with the AC outlets, that still blends in nicely.
That said, it's also an amazing workload for to sit on the wrong side when driving the car :laugh:
dont pick on us Aussies- given the choice I prefer to drive on the left (away from the oncoming traffic)
BTW there are many subtle, obvious, mild modifications which no one has yet picked up or at least commented on
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Bob, what does the lever-type switch just under the drive selector box control? Just curious.
I like the way you've integrated the modern comforts and features into your red, HOT 'Flite, especially the heating/cooling and sound. And the window glass looks brand new!
BTW..do you have the clock for the center of the steering wheel? I can't recall.
You and your entire Aussie team are giving those very talented Scandinavians a run for their money when it comes to excellent craftsmanship!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | FIN ME - 2012-11-04 11:20 PM
Bob, what does the lever-type switch just under the drive selector box control? Just curious.
I like the way you've integrated the modern comforts and features into your red, HOT 'Flite, especially the heating/cooling and sound. And the window glass looks brand new!
BTW..do you have the clock for the center of the steering wheel? I can't recall.
You and your entire Aussie team are giving those very talented Scandinavians a run for their money when it comes to excellent craftsmanship!
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Ah! Rosy you're a gal with a good eye for detail The lever is the park brake from a 62 valiant as we replaced the original box (actually it is now in the 58 sweep) with a later V8 torque flite with the park brake in built. It took a bit of work by John to piggy back the two selector boxes together.
The A/C outlets were hand turned on the lathe and have the same profile as the nacelles on the gauges. The radio has been completely rebuilt with circuitry from the USA incorporating the latest AM/FM/MP3 and Ipod/iphone interface coupled to a 600W AMP behind the back seat. All the side glass is brand new solex but the front and rear screen are original and in great condition.
alas the dash clock had to go as it would have looked too cluttered. but we have incorporated a wheel clock as per the 1957 accessories catalogue. the clock was purchased on eBay but the casing and retainer were all made from scratch on the lathe without ever knowing what the original looked like. Both the '57 Flite and '58 sweepboth now sport wheel clocks!!
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The rest of the car isn't too shabby either....
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I didn't know, that on DeSoto's are these clockwheels available, too. That's a really true treasure on your fantastic RHD-Flite
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Just curious, is the clock supposed to be mounted with 1.00 as top high instead as 12.00, or am I missing something here? |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | ToMopar - 2012-11-06 2:51 AM
Hej Bob,
I didn't know, that on DeSoto's are these clockwheels available, too. That's a really true treasure on your fantastic RHD-Flite
G'day ToM, there are plenty of clocks still avaible on ebay as they were used on other vehicles including VW. however they are harder to find with the fittings to retain them in the wheel- we made our own!
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | earleebob1 - 2012-11-05 8:14 PM
Oh you really are a wiz! I just quickly assembled the sections to show how it is. when it finally comes together the steering wheel will be in the straight ahead position and the clock will sit with the 12 o'clock high. Good to see you are paying attention! :laugh:
Thanks' man, compliments on the nice work with the retainer. Those clocks are rare and expencive at that - a very nice option to have though.
You mean that the clockwork was used on other cars as well? With exactly the same face?
Another note of left and right -The parking brake handle looks as it was meant for left hand drive cars, do anyone knows if Ma Mopar actually made a handle specially for right hand cars??
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | It's been bugging me all day that I couldn’t find this photo of the A/C nacelles we turned up on the lathe. FINALLY tonight after trawling through 100s of shots I found it. It turned out to be NOT that interesting but here it is anyway!!!
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | In my book this is great - I can see that you have copied the same looks as the instrument gauge bezel has. That makes the nacelles fit more nicely on the dashboard and for anyone but a DeS freak, they might have been there since back then. |
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Just for interest sake - some makes (and names) of steering wheel clocks:
MAAR (Swiss made, I think found on Olds, other GM's)
VDM
Rometsch (VW, Ghias)
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I'm sure there's others out there
Great work, Bob - I've heard from other folks that they own the clock, but do not have the ring that connects it to the steering wheel. You did a great job of creating that ring and installing your clock!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | You know, guys and gals, this is a very special place in the world to be, here in the forward look family. I just received a PM from Paul "springsweptwing" who withdrew his bid on the bumperettes as he didnt need his straight away. As a result the bid has dropped by some $400.00 I am very humbly blown away by such a wonderful jesture. I may still be outbid, but who cares, thanks Paul!!!! |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | earleebob1 - 2012-11-05 7:25 PM
ToMopar - 2012-11-06 2:51 AM
Hej Bob,
I didn't know, that on DeSoto's are these clockwheels available, too. That's a really true treasure on your fantastic RHD-Flite
G'day ToM, there are plenty of clocks still avaible on ebay as they were used on other vehicles including VW. however they are harder to find with the fittings to retain them in the wheel- we made our own!
cheers
I found on Lee's HP more informations about DeSoto Wheel Clocks
http://www.roadkillontheweb.com/desoto_chrysler_benrus.html
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We have been given the word the upholsterer is ready to go- the raw materials have arrived and the workshop is free. Warwick is about 2 1/2 hours west of Brisbane. Here the Desoto will spend a month being transformed internally to match the exteria! and I'm excited!!
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I wish, I could do something like that.
BTW, Here's an example of doorskin.se
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In your spare time, would you like to make up 1 for my dodge and might as well have 1 for the plymouth as well please.
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Even more beauty to add to your incredible car!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | big m - 2012-12-02 2:01 AM
Great job on the embossing, Bob!!!
---John
G'day John hope you are well and truly on the mend and thanks for the comment. BTW Ray Bell is back in the land of OZ awaiting his truck full of parts. Said he had a great time touring the states and catching with his FL mates. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | FIN ME - 2012-12-02 1:32 AM
Very nice work, Bob!
Even more beauty to add to your incredible car!
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Good morning to you and thanks for the PM I will check out the shipping costs. Spring is past and it is the 2nd day of summer and the days are already heading for the 100 F. mark. The upholestry is going to be very different, drawing from the Adventurer, 'Flite and Ferrari. It will be colour on colour with the only difference being the inserts and lower trim which will have a small weave pattern like some of the 70s Ford compacts. Now that we've done the embossing it is time to do the cutting, stitching and padding. I am still hanging out for it to be finished by Christmas but no one is promising .... so it is up to Santa!!!!!!
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big m - 2012-12-02 2:01 AM
Great job on the embossing, Bob!!!
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G'day John hope you are well and truly on the mend and thanks for the comment. BTW Ray Bell is back in the land of OZ awaiting his truck full of parts. Said he had a great time touring the states and catching with his FL mates.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Merry Christmas to all my Forward Look friends, thanks for your interest and help on my 57'Flite over the past year. 2013 will be the debut of its re-launch with much fanfare and festivity-
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SUDDENLY IT WILL BE 1957!!!!!!!
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Merry Christmas to you too, Bob!
Anticipating that debut of the re-launch MUCHLY!
Have a peaceful Holiday Season!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi Steve, thanks for the info on the door rubbers, the extrusion looks soft enough to work. In the meantime I have purchased some door rubbers from Atlas obsolete which also look VERY promising. I havn't had a chance to try them but they look very similar to the ones in your photo. The desoto is away at present at the trimmers, but as soon as it is back we will give this material a try and post the result.
thanks for your interest- all the best for 2013
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | the cars in the u tube clip are referred to in Oz as Sprint cars. Somethig like my Flite without the front could be seen at the Nostalgia drags probably in the '' Gas'' class where anything goes!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Meanwhile down at the boat shed, the desota boata is starting to take shape. The hull has been repaired and the transome strengthened to accept the 100HP Tower of Power Red Band Merc two-stroke outboard. The hull is now ready for painting and fitout. Work has also started on a 50s style boat trailer to cradle this '58 BellBoy Banshee.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | FIN ME - 2013-01-14 1:03 AM
A boat too!?! Wow!
Thanks for the photos, Bob...amazing work as always!
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G'day Rosy not a big surprise, the Bell Boy is mentioned in my thread on page 2 about 3/4 of the way down. (I actually have 2 of these boats now ... a blue one as well as the red one... I bought the bluey to copy/duplicate some of the fittings missing on the red one)
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Ah, you're right!
I'd completely lost track of the boat(s).
Just imagine those heads turning as you pull up in your amazing Fireflite pulling its matching finned boat...endlessly cool.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | WORK ON THE UPHOLSTRY IS STILL PROGRESSING (SLOWLY) BUT WE SHOULD HAVE THE CAR BACK FROM WARWICK THIS WEEKEND. THEN OFF TO THE SUSPENSION PEOPLE FOR SPRINGS AND SHOCKY WORK.
MEANWHILE BACK AT THE BOAT SHED THE TRACE COAT HAS BEEN SANDED AND ITS READY FOR THE PAINT SHOP!!!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Mark I do have a couple of Chrysler outboards but this baby will have a 50's 100HP Mercury 6 cyl 2 stroke Tower of Power.
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WHAT DO YA RECKON? IT JUST BLEW ME AWAY WHEN I FIRST SAW IT
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | A FEW MORE SNAPS OF THE LHS INTERIOR
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Darn nice work, Bob!
Looking sooooooo nice! Please keep the photos coming!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Rosy, it's getting closer, ever closer. And now the boat is finally painted red and white. It is the rainy season here (to say the least!!) and we have to transport the Flite from Warwick to Brisbane ( 2 hours away) on the back of the tow truck. There are no windscreens in yet and we are concerned about getting the upholstery wet. So everything has to be wrapped in industrial glad wrap!!
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Location: Michigan | Nice! oh the masking job they must have had to do on that boat. Hey wait a minute. Where is the picture of the most important part? The FINS!!
Did Rosey make it safely through the trip in the rain?
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2013-02-24 12:23 AM
Nice! oh the masking job they must have had to do on that boat. Hey wait a minute. Where is the picture of the most important part? The FINS!!
Did Rosey make it safely through the trip in the rain?
Dont know about Rosy but the Desoto made it up and back between showers ... and that's 4 hrs driving. However, it was well protected in plastic and 100 MPH tape. we did get a bit of rain on the local trip to the suspension shopbut it remained covered and dry.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | I am pleased to report that work is still progressing on the Red and White Flight. However, as always nothing seems to go fast enough... dont know how those OVERHAULIN guys can do the work in a week!!!
We had a setback with the fitting of the suspension by a company I won't name. But somehow they managed to jack the front of the car up by the SUMP!!!! You guessed it now it sports a sizeable dent... with it touching on the oil pickup. I am calm ...now and it has been a costly rectification by the suspension firm.
More electrical wiring has been carried out on the front and rear courtesy lights, rear demister fan, radio, audio amp and subwoofer and electric seats. All the speakers front and back have been fitted up as well.
Next week the car goes across town to have the transmission and park cables adjusted to the push buttoms. Transmission lines to the radiator will be fitted at this time. (Still dont have a suitable speeo cable to mate the 62 V8 Valiant Torqueflite box to the dash).
With all the modifications to the motor and radiator, we were dreading the selection and fitment of the radiator hoses. The top hose was relatively easy... a cut here and a twist there, but the bottom hose was a drama culminating in the fabrication of an"elbow". Now it looks just like a bought one. We filled up the radiator with coolant
and were relieved to find NO leaks yet!
Tomorrow the front and rear screens are to be fitted. The front is NEW and was sourced locally much to my surprise. Thanks to Jeff Nichols we have great quality secondhand rubber gaskets with good elasticity easing the effort in final fitment.
I am hoping to have the car going and registered by the end of this month but there are still a lot of little things to do!!!
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Great attention to detail as always, Bob!
Thank you for the update!
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Location: South Australia | She realy is comming along a treat Bob,the workman-ship is somthing that i aspire to...but we'll see how i go!
As for your sump,like the saying goes...."If ya want a job done properly,do it yourself",...you can't pay people to have common sense.
Just on your windscreen,where did you pick up yours? I am getting one imported from "Southern States Glass" in Vaginia,but just in case the unthinkable happens....
Also did you re-pamp your original windscreen rubber?
I was told by a bloke that restored a '58 Plymouth,that his car come from Arizona and the windscreen rubber come out like a piece of iron!,He couldn't get another,but he was told by an old vehicle restorer to put it outside on a piece of cardboard and paint it with glycerine every day! So other than an ant invasion,the rubber became plyable over a couple of weeks and it's in his car today,with a new 'screen.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi Grant thanks for the post. Unfortunately my workshop is not equipped to reset springs and such. However all is well as it is well on the way to repair. I bought my front screen locally in SE Qld at Beenleigh. The rubbers (gaskets) I bought from Jeff Nichols and they were pretty good. I chose to use propylene glycol to soften up the rbbber by painting a layer on each day and letting it soak in. I am sure glycerol would work as well. Both screens are finally in and so more of the jewellery can be applied to the outside.
The steering wheel is now in undercoat so I am hoping it will be finished by the end of the week.
We finally attached the door rubbers we got from Atlas Obsolete. Not the easiest guy to deal with but the rubbers were spot on. Especially good was that they didnt cause the doors to bulge like the previous lot.
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Location: Michigan | Bob, I got a good used cable from Big M and then recovered it with the shrink tubing from Gary Goers. It works and looks just like new. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks old mate that is certainly worth a try. As you can see I have the whip out in the hope the car will be finished for Easter.. so unfortunately nothing has been started on project 55. It is however rollen round in their heads and shouldnt take too long once they get started!
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Location: Michigan | No problem. I thought there might be some questions but when they can get to it, they get to it. Oh and I found this today. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221204088338&ssP...
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Mark, I did manage to get a couple of these made in South Australia some time back. They needed to be a foot longer as the buttons have been moved to the correct side of the car! I have PMd Big M who is looking into a speedo cable for me.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Hello Bob
I've seen you changed your profile picture to a "bad" car.................
For the speedo cable, I found out, that the 57 Desoto speedo cable had the same thread's (on both sides) as the later muscle cars w/ 727 for example the 68 Charger, but no idea if there is a longer "downunder" version available.
BTW, could you tell me if Jeff Nichols had a shop or something like that, because I need a new windscreen seal for my Fireflite, too. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Tom thanks for the tip on the cable. the member who sold me the windscreen rubbers is fast59desoto aka Jeff Nichols.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Ray Bell - 2013-03-25 8:57 AM
Some kind of old BMW?
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | earleebob1 - 2013-03-24 11:51 PM
is this photo more pleasing (and do you know what it is???)
The Charger was pleasing! No idea, what the new profilephoto is, maybe an australian vauxhaul? But it could be something english too, because of the 7" headlights and the Lucas Indicators. Looks similar to Morris Minor.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | ToMopar - 2013-03-27 12:41 AM
earleebob1 - 2013-03-24 11:51 PM
is this photo more pleasing (and do you know what it is???)
The Charger was pleasing! No idea, what the new profilephoto is, maybe an australian vauxhaul? But it could be something english too, because of the 7" headlights and the Lucas Indicators. Looks similar to Morris Minor.
Close Tom but no cigar! Ray Bell was referring to the power transplant. It is an Ozzie car which looked more like a Morris Minor than a '50s Vauxhaul. The Lucas indicators were a an after-market addon. These cars were so basic they didn't even come with a swaybar!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2013-03-28 10:48 AM
Is that Straight 6 driving the picture above with the car that has the front wheels lifted? Holy cow! Where did you hide the supercharger?
That there Mark is a bulk stock 450HP BMW M3 double vanos NORMALLY ASPIRATED engine out of an E36 M3 tuned to the raged edge. It runs a BMW Getrag Schmahl 6speed box and a Motec M800 engine management system. She does the quarter in 12.8 sec.
It is one of my favourite daily drivers. It is quicker than my GT2 Turbo Porsche to 60 MPH @ 3.6 sec! This car is equally at ease on the race circuit but a challenge to get round corners!
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Location: Castlemaine Victoria Australia | Bob, are you using the original FJ king pin front end or a HR ball joint front end?
Maybe if you want to make it handle and stop better visit here: www.rodshop.com.au
We make a new front end with tubular arms, rack and pinion, 330mm rotors, 4 piston willwood callipers and fully
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | And waste good money?
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | craigt - 2013-03-29 6:36 AM
Bob, are you using the original FJ king pin front end or a HR ball joint front end?
Maybe if you want to make it handle and stop better visit here: www.rodshop.com.au
We make a new front end with tubular arms, rack and pinion, 330mm rotors, 4 piston willwood callipers and fully
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G'day Craig, the Jay already runs a highly modified HR ball joint front running 320mm family pizza plates off an M3 with Brembo 6 pot calipers. Stopping is not a problem infact when I hit the pix at the end of Willowbank Raceway back straight the rear wheels are only just toiuching the ground. Queensland Transport were very happy with the build but drew the line at altering the rear end. Dont get me wrong, that FJ handles well but there is more metal above the door handles than in the whole of my porsche!!!
The front sway bar is as big as a baby's arm and the car by choice does not run a rear one. Last year in the days of thunder shoot out my XY race car expired so I took the Jay out to compete in the final 8 lap race after it was successfully scrutineered.
I had to start at the rear of the grid behind V8 TRoranas, Comaros and early GT Falcons- all on slicks. I was on DOT treaded Kumo 700s. In the 1st lap I was able to get to the front until their tyres warmed up. As the laps progressed to began to mow me down and by the final lap I finisned 3rd and was clapped into the pits by the scrutineers.
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I had a '54 FJ special many years ago and dad had a '54 special in the mid '60's.
I remember dad used to put a few bags of cement in the boot ( trunk ) to help stop it rolling over when going around corners a bit too quick.'spose it helped as he never rolled his J .
Thems were the days of the humpy Holden !!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | at last some progress on the Flite
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Great detail work, Bob!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Can anyone help me out with 3 garnish mould clips like the one pictured? some how I managed to lose these three... among other miscellaneous bits over the past 5 years of this build.
If anyone in the ForwardLook family can spare them please send them in an envelope to
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2013-02-24 12:23 AM
Nice! oh the masking job they must have had to do on that boat. Hey wait a minute. Where is the picture of the most important part? The FINS!!
Did Rosey make it safely through the trip in the rain?
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Today I picked up my 57 Flite from the exhaust shop. It is one of those places where you just throw your wallet in and they give you the empty wallet back... but the work was top class. Great ground clearance and misses the hand brake cables etc. Can't wait to hear that subtle V8 392 hemi stereo rumble!!!!
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Hi Bob, you have a 392? Wow.
Are you sure, that between the frame and the spring is enough space for the pipe?
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | ToMopar - 2013-04-12 1:44 PM
Hi Bob, you have a 392? Wow.
Are you sure, that between the frame and the spring is enough space for the pipe?
Anyhow, looks perfekt!! I bought my exhaust at waldron...
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | wizard - 2013-04-12 10:09 PM
ToMopar - 2013-04-12 1:44 PM
Hi Bob, you have a 392? Wow.
Are you sure, that between the frame and the spring is enough space for the pipe?
Anyhow, looks perfekt!! I bought my exhaust at waldron...
Second that - seems like it's a close call - the tube work looks excellent!!!!
Yes Guys, I made the same comment myself, only time will tell when I hit a few bumps on the road, but if it hits we'll change it. There aren't too many options if Iwant to include a pipe to the bumper bar outlet. With all the challenges this car has thrown at me this is a simple one to solve!!!!!
Could always run them out in front of the rear tyres!!!!
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | At the minimum, I reckon you're in for vibrations and rattling...
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Darn shiny, gorgeous car (and boat!), Bob!
They both look amazing, and to think that they are likely still a tad dusty from the shop. Stunning work.
I can't wait to see it all done SO much that my eye has started twitching. 
But I'm sure that you can't wait either!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | slowly slowly the jigsaw comes together!!
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Location: Michigan | oooohhhh you must be so geeked about the progress. Looking good!. You didn't use Dynamat for sound deadning? Went with the recycled fabric option? |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2013-04-24 8:00 AM
oooohhhh you must be so geeked about the progress. Looking good!. You didn't use Dynamat for sound deadning? Went with the recycled fabric option?
yes Mark thought about the dynamat but the floor was tooo nice to permanantly hide and the recycled fabric has worked on all my other noisy cars! |
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I like your glovebox feature
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Location: Michigan | Stunning Bob. We need a picture of you sitting in it though, enjoying those plush seats and with a big smile on your face.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | thanks Mark, are you referring to the front speakers?
When I get a chance I will document all the subtle details in this build.
too soon for any photos of me but the smile is there and it is a mile wide.
we fired the car up this morning with the mufflers on and it is so loud we had to put paper toweling in our ears (it seem to be the forward look way! I will have to put in a couple of hotdogs in the midsection of the exhaust.
We have begun work on your gear selector and ask if you have a particular pattern for the facia as we are going to photoetch it onto the polished stainless insert?
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Location: Michigan | I was referring to the rear deck lid picture above. The grills are sunk in and don't have any advertising on them. Some grills you see that come with the speakers take attention away from the real beauty of the interior work.
I had not thought of options on the facia there. Send me some ideas in an email and I will pick something out. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Believe it or not those 3 speaker covers are std Chrysler issue which are all the same between '57 -'59 some have different patterns on the grille. All I did was sand them back and paint them. The centre one is a rear demister fan (also optional Chrysler issue). I'll dig up some photos. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | HERE IS TO YOU MICK!!!
The latest edition to the fleet... another Bell Boy Banshee Desota Boat. This one has many of the bling bits missing on the other two. These can now be copied and put on the restored boat. I am indebted to MICK aka known to you all as "ttotired" of forward look fame, who was kind enough to retrieve the boat in Mandrah (about 2 hours away from Perth Western Australia) and tow it back to his home in Bellveue Perth and store it for three weeks until I could arrange transport back to Queensland. It never ceases to amaze me the wonderfully helpful people in this family we call the Forward Look Forum... thanks for your generous help and friendship. Here's to you mate!
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Sweet fleet you're going to have, Bob! Congratulations!
Yep, that Mick is one good egg!
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Looks like my bird poop welding held up on the V catcher thing on the trailer
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | If we ever get it finished it goes on display at Coolie Rocks at the Gold Coast this weekend!
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Sooooooooo close! I'm crossing my fingers that you get it done in time for Coolie Rocks.
(BTW, Bob - can you sneak in a pic of your Rolls?)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | FIN ME - 2013-06-03 10:41 PM
Sooooooooo close! I'm crossing my fingers that you get it done in time for Coolie Rocks.
(BTW, Bob - can you sneak in a pic of your Rolls? )
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here you go Rosy a pic for you!!!!!!!!!
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Location: Michigan | SWEET!.. Go Bob go, go Bob Go... (Fan club cheering you and the team on!)
Although I don't know what we all will do when you finish this car. There will be such a void of excellent workmanship photo's... we are all going to get the DT's.
Oh and we need a youtube video of you starting it up so we can actually hear that engine!
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DA-YUM!
Hubba, hubba, that be one stunning car! Me want.
Thanks for the peek, Bob!
Wish I could take her for a spin...I tell ya, if I EVER make it back to Australia...
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Good observation Mark, yes it's a Ford - but a 1971 Fairmont 250 sedan not a Mustang which shares a similar front. The seat side covers were fabricated in house by our resident glass man, Paul Kelly who incidentally is the chap doing the mods on your transmission button facia.
Time is ticking and there is still a lot left to do before the weekend!!
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Location: Perth Australia | No point rushing now Bob
Better to be exacting like you have been, rushing always equals compramise
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Bob , I just simply love your car, and those wheels they just ooze class ............. I'd love to do my car similar to yours but funds won't permit, something sorta like it funds wise maybe......
You'll love it when its done that is an absolute and I know how your just itching to get into it ........
All in good time, that car's gunna turn heads on statues !!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | My thoughts exactly, Mick
Karl Zerner put in a mighty effort this week, mainly alone, as I had to fly interstate on business midweek and Paul Kelly unexpectedly could not work Thursday or Friday. However, we plodded on with the electrics (thanks Drew) which are now completed leaving us only to refit the speedo cluster / binacle and the front bar.
When we finally received the H4 front head lights and lenses they would not fit so we had to return to the originals. The horns are painted (thanks Ian and Stuart) and only need fitting. Some of the powder coating (including the front bar supports) had to wait until the powder coaters regulars' jobs were done.
Thanks guys for the big push over the last month or so.
Nevertheless the car looks fantastic and is turning out to be exactly what I wanted!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Terry, I going to be down your way soon so I'd love to catch up and see your FL (maybe share a Hunter Red)
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Well...poop!
Never mind, Bob! There will be endless shows and meets and the like where your red beast shall rule!
Take yer time...we will be right here, waiting.
Your Desoto looks totally beautiful, even in it's unfinished state!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Nearly there
It needs to be finished this Saturday for my eldest son's wedding. Still some issues with hood clearance noisy mufflers and wipers running the wrong way. but it WILL be ready and running!
Watch this space for some wedding shots!!! I excited!
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Location: Perth Australia | Brilliant Bob
So when are you sending the team over to finish mine?
After the wedding is ok
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Dear forward look friends,
Life is full of compromise, disappointment and promise. The Red and White Fireflite is on life support as we speak. This build has had many twists and bends and I have tried very hard to be thorough but Murphy still managed to stick a spanner in the works. When I went to start the car on Friday morning to drive it to the muffler place it would not wind over. I jacked it up and tapped the starter with a screw driver and she wound over and fired. Whilst it was on the hoist we removed the starter motor and took it to the auto-electrician. Nothing appeared to be wrong so we wired in a remote switch and reinstalled it and it worked fine. The extra mufflers were fitted and the bark of the beast was silenced. Well you would think- that was it All the gremlins ironed out but... Late Friday afternoon I drove it down to fill it up with its first tank of petrol. It was great to finally get behind the wheel and do a final shakedown before the big day. I rang my wife at home and said come for a cruise I will be there in 10 minutes. As I drove away from the last set of traffic lights one kilometre from my place, I could just hear a noise… nah surely it was nothing. I was being paranoid. As I rounded the corner into my street I was down to nursing speed. It began to develop a wheeze. I coasted to a halt right outside my house. When I tried to restart it, it did a couple of revolutions and that was it. The battery was new and fully charged. I sat for a moment in disbelief. This couldn’t be happening…. Nah this is a brand new engine, built in America by a reputable guy. I rang my youngest son and together we picked up the tow truck and brought it back to the shed. I had a terrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. What was I going to tell my son about his wedding car. When we drained the oil it was silver with fine metal bits. May be it has spun a bearing. We wont know until we pull it down. So dear Forward look friends it is not dead but on life support with a failing heart and not bearing up well. But that‘s old cars for you. And yes in the depths of Friday night I did shed a tear!
However the wedding went well
I will have some pictures soon
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Location: Perth Australia | Geez Bob, I feel for you
Obviously, no one knows whats happened for sure yet, but one thing my machinist told me was that if I couldnt resist starting my engine once it was together (and who could) that I had to make sure I kept starting it and leave it running regularly so it didnt lock up.
Maybe the bent sump had something to do with it?
I hope it turns out to be a simple problem
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Bob, that is shocking!
A disappointment for your son, of course, but to have this kind of culmination to such a huge effort of a build has got to just gut you.
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Location: South Australia | Heart goes out to ya Bob.
I don't know how many mates i have who have tried to have a car ready for wedding day , only to fall short just before the post!
It is very dis-heartening to say te least,particulaly when like yours Bob we see how much blood sweat and tears go into getting it there.
I realy hope it's something small mate, after all you have put in mate it should be....and when it does run, by jesus make sure you teach it a lesson for giving you a hard time! |
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Sorry to hear this bad news, Bob! I do have faith that it will all turn out well for you, so hang in there.
Happy that the wedding went well, and I'm looking forward to some pic's!
Sending you some Good DeSoto Luck!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Had to get away after the intensity of the disappointing build up to the wedding and the no show of the 57 Flite-
So we took on a 23 hour journey from Brisbane to Venice (Italy). And as we boarded the launch to take us from the airport, something quite forward look caught my eye….
Surely not, but here is photographic proof which I offer up for verification. Is this or is this not a 57/58 Desoto steering wheel which has been recycled on this Venetian water taxi???????
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Methinks you be right, Sir!
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I'm soooo envious regarding your trip to Venice, Bob! I hope to get there in the next few years.
BUT...I gotta ask - am I the only one who sees a resemblance? Hmmmm... 
Pass the chianti!
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Location: Michigan | Well Bob I hope you had a nice trip. Because now your back! So... how is the rebuild going? I heard you got a block. |
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| This is nearly great literature Bob - reluctant hero, a sometimes seemingly insurmountable goal, plenty of drama along the way, international travel, and with one last Hercules type effort that will soon lead to a happy and beautiful ending.
Can't wait for you to finish this story up and tell us what the happily ever after is like! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2013-08-27 11:34 AM
Well Bob I hope you had a nice trip. Because now your back! So... how is the rebuild going? I heard you got a block.
Hi Mark it was great to video skype you from Venice. Yes we do infact have a complete 392 which I bought locally (Victoria) which has now been stripped acid bathed and mic'ed up. The crank had had a couple of regrinds so we will leave it to replace the crank in the current hemi. Karl has now finished the porting on the heads and received the engine parts from the States including a stock crank (thanks for your help with these). we have gone with billet steel four bolt main caps but are having trouble tracking down a pair of middle ones so we may make these in house. did you stay with the originals or og 4 bolt steel? here are a few pix of the bits so far
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Location: Michigan | According to my Complete Chrysler Hemi manual, Chrysler engines were already bullet proof.
I used my original caps but I did have the engine 'Line Honed' to fix the block and caps. Mine were egg shaped as this was a marine block and the trans was attached to the front of the block. A lot of stress was on that Number 1. I had a local shop do this work and they had all the tools. They had to add metal to 3 of my caps and then regrind the block and caps to the right shape.
I should note that this is for a normally aspirated engine. There is a section in the book about how to add a blower to your hemi. They state that if you stay under 6psi of pressure you don't need to modify the rods and caps. Above that and you should use 4 bolt mains and 'beefier rods'.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Yep hard seats and stainless valves so that we can run PULP unleaded. The cmpression, Karl tells me, will be around 10:1. We are running light weight forged aluminium domed pistons. The overhead gear you can see in the mid left of the photo is so sexy we should run perspex tappet covers. I will have some more shots when it is all laid out ready to assemble. At the moment there are a whole lot of adaptors which need to be bolted on to take advantage of some more modern bits like the oil pump. |
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Location: bishop, ca | You want the intake manifold and port surfaces to be rough, to allow the air/fuel shot to become mixed-combined and
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The exhaust passages should be smooth, for maximum efficient evacuation.
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You want the intake manifold and port surfaces to be rough, to allow the air/fuel shot to become mixed-combined and
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The exhaust passages should be smooth, for maximum efficient evacuation.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | The head flow data and Dyno testing will reveal all!
The heads are away having the SS valves and seats done. Next is cc ing the combustion chambers, then off to be surface ground. The block has been bored to fit the pistons and the main caps line honed.
The whole front of the car is off again ready to extract the old donk! Makes me cry to have to do this over again. |
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Location: So. Cal | Beltran - 2013-08-27 11:34 AM
....we have gone with billet steel four bolt main caps but are having trouble tracking down a pair of middle ones so we may make these in house. did you stay with the originals or og 4 bolt steel? here are a few pix of the bits so far
Four bolt mains may be a waste of money on an early hemi. I have talked with a number of old racers and they told me that the 4-bolt main motors were actually weaker than 2-bolt versions. The reason is because the extra bolts go in at a weak point in the webbing, making it weaker. For max strength, they recommend a strong cap girdle on the stock 2-bolt mains - neither of which is required if you aren't running boost.
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Hi,
Why did you move the rear axle bumpers inside of the frame??
Thanks,
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NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BOB BY THE TERM "BUMPER" BUT WE SHORTENED THE AXLES TO GIVE THE WHEELS THAT REVERSED RETRO LOOK. |
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Location: Michigan | If you go back in this long thread a bit Bob describes the modifications he did to the frame and why. I believe it was because he wanted the wider tires and that required moving the springs inboard. There is some pics of the changes in here somewhere. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | bbrasse1 - 2013-09-23 11:12 PM
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Why did you move the rear axle bumpers inside of the frame??
Thanks,
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Bob, Mark is correct there is brief mention of this mod early in the thread. The springs were moved inboard to make room for the wheels. The bump stop rubber brackets were simply welded on the other side of the chassis.
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Stay strong, Bob!
It will get there!
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Not to late to throw a blower on there
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | ttotired - 2013-10-09 8:18 AM
Hey Bob
Not to late to throw a blower on there
Michael is this what you had in mind?
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I want to do this but to a poly
Everyone says why, and thats a good reason to do it, no one else wants to
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | SOME ACTIVITY ON THE NEW BLOCK AS WE ARE ABOUT TO START THE DUMMY BUILD
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Provided she dont find out, that is
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Location: USA - KY | Ray Bell - 2013-10-09 9:24 AM
...You've discussed the budget with your wife?
Wait a minute, you guys! I just realised something...
Seems to me, that the last time that something major went suddenly, and rather MYSTERIOUSLY wrong with Bob's resto...MRS. Bob got a spontaneous, FAB trip to Venice!
Methinks that Mrs. Bob's activties should be thoroughly investigated...I suspect sabotage may be afoot!
Ya just got to watch us women every darn minute!
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Sorry Bob, I poluted your thread
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I'm with you Mick,
sorry Rosy (cant go there) Mrs Bob also reads this thread.!!! but have to say she is co financier and loves the Flite and she's the one urging Karl to finish the new Hemi motor!
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Location: DFW, TX | 57plymouth - 2013-09-18 5:46 AM
Your intake information is flawed. The smoother the intake port the higher the velocity. The higher the velocity the higher the volumetric efficiency.
While this is true for the dynamics of a pure gas, the distribution of fuel vapors in the airstream is improved with some turbulence. What is lost in maximum airflow is more than made up for in a more complete fuel burn.
Those ports look fine to me.
I'm just now reading of the original 392 letting go. I know you're trying to put a good face to the situation, but that is a nightmare on a finished, beautiful car like that. I hope the next one gives you a lifetime of happy miles. Cheers.
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Bob, sorry if you've already covered this, but what is that blue plate on the inner surface of the bumper side of the trunk?
Glad to see ya posting again about your really GREAT DeSoto!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | FIN ME - 2013-11-22 4:55 AM
Bob, sorry if you've already covered this, but what is that blue plate on the inner surface of the bumper side of the trunk?
Glad to see ya posting again about your really GREAT DeSoto!
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Hi Rosy always good to hear your comments and queries. The blue tag is called a "Modification Plate". When ever major changes are made to a vehicle in Queenssland or for that matter, Australia, an automotive engineer has to approve the changes. In this case the left to right conversion, the drum to disc brakes and the replacementof the Hemi to a 392 had to get the blue plate of approval. It is all about safety and there are some cowboys out there who have to be protected from themselves! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi Danny thanks for your post. I couldnt agree more. Head design and modification is always a compromise. The original motor was over carburated with those 2 4BBLs but I wanted a particular look. So air velocity was going to be down. When we "cleaned up" the new heads it was really just to improve flow by takng out some restrictions- the ports are not polished but they now DO look a lot cleaner.
The issue with lack of turbulence occurs when the fuel vapour drops out of supension when air velocity drops too low for fluidization. This isn't going to happen in that "ugly" plenum. Big as it is, it is still a rabbit warren in there and now with another 1/2" shaved off the top, turbulence will be improved at a slight cost to flow. But at least now the carbies sit under the bonnnet with some clearance. And talking of carbies we have replaced the 2 monster 650 Hollies with a couple of smaller 580s. We have also trimmed the valve stems wasteing them just above the valve to help air flow. The heads now flow around 500 HP.
The engine has been successfully 'dummy aasembled', camshaft fitted and measurements made for the correct height pushrods. The bottom end is now away being balanced.
George Laurie was very helpful in sourcing a flywheel, bellhousing and starter so we can dyno the donk once it's fully built. (photos to come when I get back from Germany). Thanks George!
BTW we have removed the sump on the 'old' engine to find fine metal fragments in the bottom. By the time we had removed No.6 big-end we found the problem. The journal had the strangest pitting as if it hadnt been linished. White metal was almost non existant and the steel backing had begun to deposit on the crank. Nothing had let go (thank goodness). It was only at the stage of seizing. We'll do a full stripdown and rebuild at some stage as it is still basically a 'fresh' engine.
We also have a spare crank if this one is too far gone.
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FAB boat!
Love the name! I might have called it "Hot Buttered Bay Bug", after my favourite Australian delicacy, but "Banshee" is a great name!
BTW - thanks for the info regarding that trunk plate!
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Location: Perth Australia | Hey Bob
Hows the Desoto getting on?
Get that blower on there yet?
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Location: Michigan | He sent me the magazine article it got published in... fabulous write up. Awesome pictures. I am hoping he posts it here for all to see. It's a Australian magazine called Street Machine. I keep checking the web page but it doesn't show the mag with his car in it yet. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2014-01-15 12:29 PM
He sent me the magazine article it got published in... fabulous write up. Awesome pictures. I am hoping he posts it here for all to see. It's a Australian magazine called Street Machine. I keep checking the web page but it doesn't show the mag with his car in it yet.
Hi Mark, Mick and and all my forward look friends
first of all a Happy 2014 to you all.
Things are moving- albeit slowly on the 57 Desoto front. The Hemi is slowly coming together! we want this one to die of old age!
here at last are the photos of the Street Machine Article. Please PM me if you cant read the print and I'll email the images to you
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Ahh, now you've decided to show the articles here, Bob.
It hangs for two months in my garage as inspiring. |
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Ta-DAH!
Looks FABULOUS!
Your photos are great, Bob!
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Location: Perth Australia | Good article Bob
I never got the issue of street machine, I think I got the next one?
Anyway, good to hear its progressing
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thanks Mick after I got permission from Street Machine to post the article on the Forum the editor, Simon Telford promised to send me a dozen hard copies. so when they turn up one is on its way to you!
Bob
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Location: Perth Australia | Cheers Bob
You going to deliver it in a really big box with a lifesize, working example of the subject matter?
That would be really nice
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Location: Michigan | A copy for me too please! With lifesize example included! |
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Location: buchanan,Ga. | Wow! Your car is coming along great! Great shade of colors you plan to go with too...keep posting pics for us to see.... |
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Location: buchanan,Ga. | Wow wow wow!!! It turned out jaw dropping gorgeous! I know you must be very proud of it. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | I have sent two spare paper copies of the Desoto story which appeared in Australian Street Machine to America. One is with FIN ME (Rosy the terror of Colerado Boulevard) and the other with Beltran (Mark R with the 55 Desoto). Should anyone want one of these please contact them direct.
First in Best Dressed!
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Location: Perth Australia | I recieved my copy Bob, thankyou very much
I waited around to see if a car carrier turned up as well, but no
If he is lost somewhere, If you give me his number, I will call him with directions
Thanks Bob
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This is one car that I especially like, though it's not a purist restoration it's a really eye catching rebuild that essentially seems like a brand new car.
If fate hadn't got me a 59 Dodge at the time I reckon I would have tried for a Desoto of some sort, really classy cars, love 'em !!
Absolutely love those wheels Bob and I'm hoping to get something like them on my Dodge when I get to that point.
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Couldn't agree more!
That Bob is "a man of wealth and taste", as the song goes...a perfect combo when it comes to preserving a grand car in an absolutely stunning way!
Hats off to you, Bob!
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Bob, great that you think at me, with one copy |
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Location: Michigan | Guys I have my two copies of the Mag. It is a really nice publication with a lot of high quality photo's in an extra large style magazine format. Anyone remember the Life magazine?
Anyway I have one extra so first come first serve if you want it PM me with the essentials and I will mail it to you. |
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Me too! I have an extra copy for the first person who requests it.
Really nice magazine! And a wonderful write up regarding Bob's amazing DeSoto.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Bob, I have received your magazine, and I am glad to have one of these in my hands now.
Thanks a lot, hope my car is in an magazine soon... |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | great that all the magazines have arrived successfully.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | It lives and breathes FIRE and makes 498 HP and 450 Ft Lbs of TORQUE across the usable rev range
Some issues with the secondaries in the carbs not opening, but solved with softer diaphragm springs |
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Some issues with the secondaries in the carbs not opening, but solved with softer diaphragm springs
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1st run on the dyno " just clearing her throats!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnh3_gOk3p4&feature=youtu.be |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Bob, your other two video's about the dyno test are great, too. The 392 hemi sounds like a really beast...not like a 50's cruiser....
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Location: So. Cal | Are those headers what will fit into your chassis? The two rear pipes look like they would be too close to the steering box. Is your car left or right hand drive?
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi Nathan, yes they are the headers out of the car and yes it is now RHD (see previous pages in this thread). We did have to extend them for the dyno test to clear the "manual" bellhousing. The car runs a '61 V8 727 torqueflite which we had to swap for a flywheel to attach to the dyno.
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WAY cool!
Varooooom!
You're going to have a ton of fun with that, Bob!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | VAN HELSING - 2014-03-27 12:13 PM
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so when are you coming up for a look????
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2014-03-27 11:27 AM
Looks real good Bob! Sounds awesome. Can't wait to see you on the track doing a right wheel lift as you hammer it off the line. :)
It is being transplanted as we speak. we have decided to upgrade the electric Holley blue fuel pump to a less noisy one from Mallory. and we've just realized that we are going to need....................
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Well done Bob, fantastic car. I hope to see it one day.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | THANKS STEVE, CANT WAIT TO GET BACK IN IT AGAIN AND FEEL THAT TORQUE..... WAHOO!
BTW THE BLACK LINES BENEATH THE RED LINES ON THE GRAPH ARE THE RUNS WITH THE AIR CLEANERS ON! THOSE DUST COLLECTORS CERTAINLY SUCK SOME POWER! |
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It dont go hard enough
Best just send it to me and start again
Glad to see its comming back together
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2014-05-08 9:31 AM
Knock knock... this thread needs updating Bob.
Hi Mark there will be plenty to see soon cos there's plenty happening at the shed
We are entering the SHOW
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Have a grand time, Bob! The crowds will be in awe of your Flite-o'-Might!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | putting on the final touches and heading out for a test drive
there are more videos but unfortunately unsuitable for general viewing especially by the constabulary on a public road. I will have to scope out a private road to unleash the beast but suffice to say with 500HP up front PRO STOCK comes to mind (particularly the handling without a front sway bar)
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Location: Michigan | Looking fabulous Bob. Have the wife join you shotgun with the ipad on video and take us for a cruise. Would love to experience the ride, but the ipad video is probably as close as any of us will ever come.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | SOME PICKS OF OUR DISPLAY AT THE HOT ROD SHOW
and there is Groucho 'where it all started for me'!
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A really wonderful car, and a really wonderful boat!
Such good work, Bob, on both!
Congratulations on having completed this restoration in such a very impressive way!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Thank you all for your congratulatory posts. It was just the best feeling to drive that BIG Red and White ‘Flite into the city to the show. As I cruized down the city streets early Friday morning, you could hear the rumblin’ sound reverberating off the buildings and the reflection of that long and low six metre coupe reflecting off the shop front windows.
We had a very basic display as I didn’t want to take any limelight away from our two unique vehicles. The camera phones clicked and the crowd milled around the display while the big flat-screen TV rolled through the build photos, pictorial posters and 1957advertising pages of the model. The TV Program Included, as introduction, the 1957 black and white Groucho Marx “Drive a Desoto before you decide” advertisement and ended with the ‘dyno’ footage of the HEMI building in revs to a screaming 7,500 RPM crescendo!
It was a ‘HOT ROD’ show with the usual trophy hunters pandering to the detailed (and sometimes obscure) rules, which categorized the Desoto a square peg in a round hole, but still up against some pretty cool rides!! Nevertheless, it attracted the attention it deserved with many complimentary comments about the display (especially the ‘Desota Boat’).
I was so proud to show it off on behalf of all those clever and talented people who took my dream and made it a reality.
Thanks
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | MOPAR Sunday arrived yesterday and with it came beautiful sunshine after a foggy start. We were directed to the designated Show and Shine area, then it was out with the polishing cloth to brush off the dust from the car park. The 3/4hr trip was a classic cruise with the Hemi throbbing under the bonnet but tastefully quiet in the cabin. It was our first outing and the opportunity we had to try out the "Vintage Air" A/C mainly to demist the screen. Then as we arrived it was down with all the windows to give it THAT COOL FORWARD LOOK as we made our entrance. It certainly turned some heads as it was the sole 57 Flite there.
The show was well attended with wall to Wall street Mopars and some quick drag cars. There were two other Desoto Flites in attendance also - a '60 and a '61 both in top condition. 'Coupeman' Danny Jarrett was there with his stock '57 Plymouth and the essential Dukes of Hazard Charger - in fact there were a couple - one streeter and the other set up for the 1/4 mile
It has taken a while to be able to show off this beautiful car but yesterday made it all worthwhile!!!!!!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi Randy - the hitch is there and ready to pull the boat as soon as I have registered the trailer!
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Location: Perth Australia | Looking good out in the sun Bob
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Location: Ocala, Florida | earleebob - 2014-07-27 6:02 PM
Hi Randy - the hitch is there and ready to pull the boat as soon as I have registered the trailer!
Awesome! Beautiful car! Great work with the dash. |
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Location: North Australia | Good to see this old Rocket out and about! I hope to get to check it out one day. I bet it stops people in their tracks.
Well done Bob, what 's it like to cruise in?
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS
IT SEEMS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKED THE CAR AT THE MOPAR SUNDAY
SO MUCH SO THAT IT WON A COUPLE OF TROPHIES
**TOP US MOPAR**
**TOP ENGINE BAY**
THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT MADE IT SUCH A HEAD TURNER!!!
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | congratulation bob, to 1st in "Top US mopar" |
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Location: bishop, ca | I thought that it was supposed to be Winter time, Down Under, right now?
What was the temperature, there?
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Congratulations, Bob!
Beeeeeautiful!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | d500neil - 2014-07-29 6:03 AM
I thought that it was supposed to be Winter time, Down Under, right now?
What was the temperature, there?
Yep! winter Queensland style
22 C (72 F) that's why we're called the Sunshine State!
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Location: Michigan | Well that second engine must have went in there well enough... Top Engine Bay award. Cudo's to Bob and the Team!
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Location: Michigan | All in favor of Bob and his wife (the iPad Videographer) to post a youtube update of "What it's like to ride in the most awesome 57 Desoto in Australia". Say AYE! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Beltran - 2014-07-29 10:38 AM
All in favor of Bob and his wife (the iPad Videographer) to post a youtube update of "What it's like to ride in the most awesome 57 Desoto in Australia". Say AYE!
OK OK Mark,
we will endeavour to film something this weekend and post it on you tube
AYE AYE! |
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Location: Perth Australia | Hey Bob
Maybe 1 with the left front wheel a foot or so in the air and the rears lit up
Dont do it (I know you want to), that car is to lovely to treat like that
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | ttotired - 2014-07-29 3:54 PM
Hey Bob
Maybe 1 with the left front wheel a foot or so in the air and the rears lit up
Dont do it (I know you want to ), that car is to lovely to treat like that
Only Vin Diesel can perform that feat!!!
It's either wheels up or smokem up. And given the weight of that HEMI up front - I would rather light em up!!
the things you can do in movies, especially in the Fast & the Furious
In the final drag race with the Dodge Charger, you can see the wheelie bar underneath the car, which is used to get the front of the Charger off the ground. If you look closely enough you can also see that the 'burn out' smoke doesn't actually come from the rear wheel tyres at all, but from a generator beside them.
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | one of the few items still missing on my 57 Flite is an original JACK
I have scoured eBay without success.
If anyone can help please let me know
or perhaps if one of the vendors reads this who have one could they please PM me?
cheers
Earleebob
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Location: So. Cal | I can understand why you would want to get an original jack for an original car; but your car is not original so why would you want one? They are quite useless because they will destroy a show car if you actually used it. For roadside emergencies, it would be better to get a small jack out of an 80's car and hide it under the spare tire. |
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Location: Perth Australia | He needs it because it supposed to be there
I am the same, at some stage, I need to see if I can get a jack for my 2 cars, will most likely never use them, but they need to be there anyway
Bit like the ashtray, I will never use it (and I do smoke)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | ttotired - 2014-08-01 5:57 AM
He needs it because it supposed to be there
I am the same, at some stage, I need to see if I can get a jack for my 2 cars, will most likely never use them, but they need to be there anyway
Bit like the ashtray, I will never use it (and I do smoke )
We'll put Mick
And I do take your point 'POWERFLITE' but....
In car shows as you know points are allotted for various items
Fire extinguishers
Tool kit
Wheel brace, jack, etc
So it is to be a 'prop'
OK then .... Who's got a spare .. JACK that is??????
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | I found some pictures of Bob's RH-Flite & Kruzir at Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mitch_hemming/14131324602/in/photostre...
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Location: So. Cal | Bob, could you tell me what was involved to make your custom air cleaners? How did you do it? I like that you have modified them to flow more air than stock. |
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Location: Upper Hunter NSW Australia | ......
That car of Bobs is one of the nicest looking ones I've ever seen,absolutely love it !!
Bob,
Are the jacks for the Desotos any different to the Ply/Dodge/Chrysler ones.
If so, they do pop up on evilbay from time to time in various conditions if that helps you.
I got my jack for my 59 Dodge from evilbay.
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | Bob did me a great favour , and by chance when he was here he mentioned the jack , so I gave him the jack out of my other Desoto , so he is ok for one now .
Annoyingly my spare Desoto had this big triangular jack monstrosity in the trunk , so I threw it out . Turns out it was a rare accessory jack . I was most annoyed to find this out ! |
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Incredibly nice. Can I ask what the bulge in the carpet is, below what appears to be the dimmer switch? |
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Thank you for posting those great photos - I never get tired of looking at that car.
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Location: Michigan | Ian if you go back to page five you will see the reason. I think Bob wanted the switch inside the car instead of having it hanging off the undercarriage and routing wiring back in.
I know he has the aircleaner build photo's somewhere in the history as well. Just page back until you find it. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | FIN ME - 2015-03-01 11:40 PM
Thank you for posting those great photos - I never get tired of looking at that car.
: )
here is a shot of the bulge
it in fact a foot rest!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | imopar380 - 2015-03-01 1:32 AM
Incredibly nice. Can I ask what the bulge in the carpet is, below what appears to be the dimmer switch?
there are some more photos of the FOOT REST on page 5 of this blog.
foot rests are a great driving tool! they have a stabilizing effect when hard braking is necessary and act as a subconscious brain orientation device on automatics to locate the brake pedal rather than the accelerator if the right foot was on the floor rather than the pedal |
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Location: Arizona | Was that footrest/dimmer holder a factory deal on those RHD cars? |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | jimntempe - 2015-03-07 10:51 AM
Was that footrest/dimmer holder a factory deal on those RHD cars?
Fair question Jim, but to the best of my knowledge there were NO right hand drive Desoto cars for Australia in 1957 or '58.
however there were some pretty terrible L to R conversions (as it was illegal then to drive a LHD car on Australian roads. One I remember incorporated two bike chains and pedal gears running between the old steering shaft and the RHD column and steering wheel under the dash!.... must have been a pig to drive.
So- no the foot rest and dimmer switch combo was my modification as was the RHD
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | The Adventurer - 2015-02-28 10:11 PM
Bob did me a great favour , and by chance when he was here he mentioned the jack , so I gave him the jack out of my other Desoto , so he is ok for one now .
Annoyingly my spare Desoto had this big triangular jack monstrosity in the trunk , so I threw it out . Turns out it was a rare accessory jack . I was most annoyed to find this out !
Yes thanks again James, it was great to meet you and check out your Chrysler fleet. The jack is now on the path to restoration along the lines you suggested.
another new friend thanks to the Family of Fins
BTW James does some great seat belt rebuilds with correct web&stitch but mainly for Aussie Fords (I think) |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Finally something to crow about
The cruise (warm) laps were a blast at the All American Day last weekend!
The old girl picked up her skirt and hauled arse down the Lakeside straight and wasn't too shabby under brakes or round the bends. The thunderous sound of a 392 Hemi with its 2 X 4BBL carbs fully open, wailing its way towards 7000 RPM as it approached the ‘chase’ was something to behold!
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Location: Michigan | Sweet Bob! So how did she do? How fast were you able to go? Anyone take video? |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Mark, it was exhilarating, I was having so much fun I didn't think about video but I have put the word out in case someone captured the red flash.
I did glance down at the dash and at the end of the straight the speedo was off the dial. Based on other cars I have driven there it was probably 150 to 160 KPH before I buttoned off for the left hand sweeper.
The opportunity will come up again but next time we will be better prepared. I honestly didn't think it would be as impressive as it was and to win the show and Shine was the icing on the cake! |
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its good to know, that you have some fun with the FLYTE |
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Location: So. Cal | If you would like to improve your handling around the curves, try out a set of the hot heads aluminum heads. That large weight reduction high up on the motor makes a nice difference. It will also improve your power output because of the better designed ports. If you ask him, he may make you a set without the Hot Heads logo on them. |
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Looks like SOOOOOOO much fun, Bob!
Congratulations!
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Location: Perth Australia | Good to see you on here again Bob (car looks awesome)
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | thanks Mick and Rosy
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | nothing like a big telephoto shot of the red flash coming into the straight
thanks Kerry for the photo
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | a day at the drags in the Desoto
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | I'm guessing that your opponent there would have been quicker if you'd put his car into your boot (trunk)?
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi Ray 14.02 sec on street tyres and 3.25 gears was OK for an aircraft carrier
There was lots of interest in the car! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | while I was at the drags a guy came up to me and asked if I had seen the 3 seconds of footage of the cruise at the All American Thanksgiving day at Lakeside Park last year
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don't blink or you'll miss it!!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Gee I'm on a roll here is another youtube grab
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some more of the Desoto mid way through clip if you are interested |
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Location: Michigan | Sounds really good Bob. Got to see you running the laps too if you watch long enough. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | at last some footage of the Desoto Flite at the 2016 Nostalgia Drags
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Location: North Australia | Hey Bob, that old tub goes pretty good. You done a great job, that is a car to be proud of. I hope to see it one day.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Its great to see your Flite flying on the strip |
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Location: Brisbane | Its a great car. Ive had the priveledge of working on this car and the workmanship is incredible |
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | A real shame Bob doesn't post more often...
A great guy, fascinating level of enthusiasm. |
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi all I had some trouble recovering this thread but thanks to coupeman I see that it is still intact
My wife and I take the red Flyte out quite often on a Sunday and cruise (terrorise the locals) on the Wynnum Esplanade before we stop for breakfast along the waterfront. The car always attracts quite a few admiring glances and phone photographers!
As Coupeman will attest the fleet has grown since my last post and I have also been doing a lot more circuit racing with my 911 turbo S and my BMW M3 R around arguably one of the best tracks in the world - Bathurst ( no place for the red aircraft carrier)!
Yesterday I added to the fleet (a birthday present to myself) a 2nd hand Mercedes Benz C63 Black Series (a beast with 557HP) (I figure I'm old enough to finally have a Merc having turned 70 last month) which I am going to campaign at Targa Tasmania another great event in my calendar . Bob |
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | There you go...
More enthusiasm than ever!
Watch your step on the Targa, Bob, it's not a playground for the carefree. |
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Location: Perth Australia | Good to hear from you Bob, thought you fell off the planet
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Location: Michigan | BOB! Glad to know your still kickin about. You need to post some photo's here or on the FB page for Forwardlook. I know the wife has the ipad and it's probably easier to throw something at us there while your tooling around. |
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