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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Hello Everybody,
I like to introduce me and my FL car here under like-minded people. I bought it as a broken restauration, and I hope I could bring the car to its former glory. Hope you support me a bit.
At the moment I sort out all the parts and bits to find out what is missing or wrong.
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Welcome, Tom!
Very cool DeSoto you have there!
Please keep posting photos!
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hey Tom we finally get to see your car. No wonder you had a keen interest in MY 57 Flite. That wagon looks to have great potential. you are certainly in the right place to ask for FL help!! |
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa | I love it!!! I love wagons. It is looking awesome.... |
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | WOW!! Very cool grocery getter!! |
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Location: Parts Unknown | AT LAST !!!! .... a surviving big body DeSoto wagon !
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Location: central Illinois | As is, that baby is SHARP!!! Can't wait to see how she comes along! |
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Location: bishop, ca | Welcome, Tom.
Since the front finish parts may not yet be installed, is the lower front body panel painted in body color, or is it
painted in semi-gloss black-out finish, like the radiator core support is?
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Location: Torino - Italy | Wow Tom , i see now your thread !! very nice !! how work proceeds? |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Thanks everybody for supporting. Some of you, I know in person, some not, but its good to have a platform like FL.net to share the hobby
@ Roberto, yes keen interest to your Flite
@ Kent & Peter, I will email you soon to order some parts I need
@ Ed, have to study your homepage a while, to have the correctness on project
@ horace, yes the other striped car could produce some smoke
@ Nick, is it's painted in semi-gloss black-out finish, I know it's wrong
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2012-12-30 3:30 PM
Welcome, Tom.
Since the front finish parts may not yet be installed, is the lower front body panel painted in body color, or is it
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" .. lower front body panel .. " ????
There is an elongated valance (air duct) that goes side-to-side not shown in these pix that should be P&A Black.
However, as it is largely hidden from view once the bumper is in place, I would hesitate to call it a "body panel".
Other than that piece, all that is really missing from the nose is the bumper and inserts. The upper insert on 57's
was Argent, while the lower is a silver anodized aluminum sheet punched out to create a "mesh" of vertical/horizontal
open squares about 1/2" each with a "bar" between of about 5/16".
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Some question's about front section
In Parts calalogue Plate 13-7 (Fireflite/Firedome) are only 6 brakets of 13-64-32 but I have 8 of them, like on Plate 13-8 (Firesweep) ??
The both reinforcement's 7-16-46 like on plate 13-7 is missing, but on parts catalogue I couldn't find too for 1957
And what color should be the closure 13-64-26 & screen 7-16-11 of plate 13-7
is the split in my closure (Picture 2020.jpg) from OEM or is it broken
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Location: New Castle PA | Just re-assemble things exactly as they WERE assembled, Tom, and you'll be fine, whether your car had 6 or 8 of those brackets. My Firedome didn't have the mesh reinforcement, 7-16-46 but my Fireflite did. I don't remember on the Adventurer, but it's been my experience that despite the parts catalog, and from what I've seen, SOME cars had the reinforcement and some didn't. The "crack" in that closure panel is most interesting, and I honestly don't know if it's really a break or from the factory, but each of my 3 cars has that exact same split. I assume, then, that it's factory, but I could be wrong. It's a small thing, no one will notice it, and I'd leave it there. From Doc's note above, " The upper insert on 57's was Argent, while the lower is a silver anodized aluminum sheet..." Paint the closure panel 13-64-26 argent silver, and if the anodized screen 7-16-11 can't be cleaned up on its own, I guess you'd have to paint it silver, too. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Hello together, who can tell me whether this petrol - tank is original, or aftermarked?
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Location: Houston | My opinion is it is OEM but I could be wrong. Weirton was a big steel maker back then so that stamp is probably just their mill stamp for the steel itself and not a reflection of who actually made the tank.
Apparently, at one time, actual products like cars and steel and glass were made in the USA. Luckily, we were able to tear down those smelly factories and replace them with nail salons, insurance agencies, and ice cream parlors. If anyone dares to think that ANY country on Earth has better nail care options than the good 'ol USA I'll fight them to the death. No, actually I'll just sue them and splash my decaf vanilla light latte in their face then unfriend them on Facebook.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISG_Weirton_Steel
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | I think to swap my rear axle into a "modern" mopar one. The reason is the very bad supply of spare parts, and the little 7" parking brake, which is not sufficient in an emergency case with the high volume of traffic.
Has anyone had made such a conversion, or has the dimensions of the 57 OEM DeSoto rear axle. I need the Dimension A, B and C of the 57 OEM rear axle
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Location: Hickory, NC | Nice wagon! I know that a 63 Chrysler 300 rearend bolts right up to a 57 Plymouth. It has the cable emergency brakes to the drums. |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | GregCon - 2013-02-15 9:34 AM
If anyone dares to think that ANY country on Earth has better nail care options than the good 'ol USA I'll fight them to the death. No, actually I'll just sue them and splash my decaf vanilla light latte in their face then unfriend them on Facebook.
Haha!! The wife heard me laughing out loud in the living room, as I read this!
Super nice wagon, by the way! |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Another possibility would be instead of the whole rear axle only pull out the shaft's, and change the anchor plate & shaft's.
But I don't have any idea, if I could swap the shaft, because of length, diameter and amount/shape of spline. And no idea, if the later anchor plate fit's on the OEM bolt circle.
The advantage of this conversion would be a "real" parking/emergency brake, not like the OEM toy, and no more anger with the OEM brake drum (puller). In case I solve it...
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Location: Jamaica Plain, MA | I just discovered this thread. Very cool stuff. The screen on my '57 Sweep is gold. I never realized that was wrong. |
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Location: Jamaica Plain, MA | Also, that car looks like a resto someone stopped. It looks way more together than not. The fun part is putting the thing back together. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Yes, someone stopped. At the moment it's more apart, than on the first pictures. And I try do do my best, to finish it (with some modification's) |
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Location: Prince Albert, Saskatchewan | Love the wagon! I also really like the looks of your shop, complete with the Scat Pack flag and 68 Charger - very cool. |
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Location: near St Augustine, FL | Is this the car Tim Bowers was working on? If so, know that his work is 'stellar'.... |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | No, this car is not the Explorer from stellarrestorations, and Tim didn't work on it. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | We found on left side the frame number 1675805 and the date of manufacture 3/20/57
Thats sensational after 57 years behind undercoatspray.
But wonder because couldn't find this number in the parts catalogue.
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Location: So. Cal | I know that the '70-'74 E-body rear is a direct bolt in for my '57 Chrysler. I would expect your wagon to be the same. However, you will need at least 11" brakes on it to stop a big wagon sufficiently. Don't even attempt to use the more common 10.5" drums on it. It would probably be better to upgrade to rear discs. My '70 Satellite wagon has an 8 3/4 with 11" drum brakes and it works well most of the time. But when I have it fully loaded with 7 people and camping gear, it would definitely be better to have more stopping power there. If you upgrade your original axle with disc brakes, would that solve all of your complaints? I believe that a disc conversion would give you a parking brake and eliminate the headache of having to remove the axles on a regular basis. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | so far so good, body is back on the frame, next step is painting the firewall
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Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | ToMopar - 2013-02-15 4:00 AM
Hello together, who can tell me whether this petrol - tank is original, or aftermarked?
That is a correct factory tank for Mopar '57-'59 wagons. It holds 22 U.S. gallons.
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Location: New Castle PA | Tom, you're doing a GREAT job on your car!!! |
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Very tidy work, Tom!
Great progress!
Thank you for the latest pic's!
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | The firewall is finished
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Location: little rock, AR | Now all ya need is a bunch of CHILLDRUNS as they say down in the hood here in the south. Great restoration. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | After the summer the project still going on
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Location: NY & VT | Nice work!! '58 Chrysler wheelcovers?
How will you replicate the rubber coverings in the rear compartment? Nothing is available as a good reproduction, afaik.
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ToMopar, next time you are at the shop, can you throw that little blue car into a box and mail it to me? Too cute!
Your wagon is awesome!
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Someone has an idea how to fix this little spring from drivers door latch lock, or where you can buy such a springs. Or has someone such a latch for sale.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | New windscreen is in place, the quarter windows are installed, and the 341 is back in engine bay
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Location: Alaska | Is the door latch the same on 57 Chrysler and Desoto? If so, I have a 57 Windsor parts car I could remove the latch from. Several years ago I missed buying a 58 shopper in rougher but restorable condition because I didn't move fast enough. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | big m - 2014-12-17 10:00 PM
Coming together very nicely, Tom!!!
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Location: Williams California | ToMopar - 2014-12-18 12:09 AM
big m - 2014-12-17 10:00 PM
Coming together very nicely, Tom!!!
John, do you recognize the quarter window frame parts
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | For those whose interested in qt window: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=51081 |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Doesn't happen very much this year, because time was eaten by my another projects.
By the way, I've prepare the exhaust system for a lambda sonde, by welding a little bit on the new waldron system.
I am fully recommend the waldron.
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Location: New Castle PA | Tom, you do have the little bent metal cover for that opening at the bottom of the flywheel, don't you? If not, I probably have a picture somewhere here of what it should look like. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Ed, yes, I have that Cover Plate |
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Location: Layton, Utah | The wagon is looking very nice Tom. You should be driving it soon at the rate your going on it. Did all the 57 Wagon parts make it to you. Hope you can use it. Cory |
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Location: London, England | Tom, do you still need a door latch? I think I have a spare. It may be the wrong door but maybe the spring can be transferred. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Here are the result of last week's electrical issue
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Location: tailFinland | Nice work Tom. You have placed lambdas quite far from the engine. I've been told they should be placed as close to engine as bossible, or do you use preheated lambdas?
I also got Waldrons exhaust waitin in boxes for m 300 G and I am also plannig to put lambdas in both exhausts, dont know yet where. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Jari, yes the lambdas are far from engine, but you are right, they are pre-heated. I will use the lambda only during adjustment procedure |
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Keep the updates coming, Tom - this is one interesting and exciting resto IMHO!
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Thanks Rosy for the kind words.
My rear bumper is back from local chrome shop - it looks SO GOOD
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | The vent window is back and installed, too
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Location: Brisbane, Australia | Hi Tom you really got a spurt on since the last photos you sent. I love your attention to detail
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Santa Claus surprise me with a rebuilt WCFB carb
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | What a difference on the vent wing chrome Tom - looks really nice - keep up the good work and soon you can drive to Classic Car Week!
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | - Yes Sven, I will keep my eyes open
- Rolland, this is because the original heat control choke are broken, and we (the carb guy and I) don't trust the reproduction parts whose are available,- so we changed to electric choke instead which is used on holley's, too.
Ok, it is not like factory, but at the end I like a working system.
Here is a picture for comparisation of Holley 4160 with electronic choke
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | I missed an ebay item, PT# 1635740
who has something still in the basement, can someone help me
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | I actually bought a used Carter filter and mounted it on a Chevy 58 - by this offence the bowl cracked almost instantly.
What I want to point out is that it's really safest to find a NOS one that never has been mounted - afterall, theres a lot of gasoline pumping out if the glass bowl cracks.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Still in progress
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | It does not happen much, but the little troll monitors the scenery
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | In another thread here was a request about some pictures of my dash, made by RD autoline Sweden http://autoline.se/
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Nathan, they paint the dash in the color you want for a little extra money.
I send them an little vinyl sample of my door panels and this company match the color exactly.
Standard color is black. |
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I have a padded dash from RDAutoline also, if you get black they recommend use of SEM vinyl paint/dye for matching to the car interior color. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | I restored the Ballast Resistor & Ignition Coil Assembly - and it looks so beautiful
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Location: New Castle PA | For a car as nice as this one is coming out to be, you might want to go the extra length to put the correct color/wording onto the coil, Tom. If so, I have it printed on a black sheet. All you need to do is print it (it will use a ton of ink because of the black), then wrap the coil in it. Then I'd spray a coating of urethane or something over it to keep it looking nice. Crazy, and I know, and yours looks awesome as is, but if you want to go that extra mile...
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Thanks Ed, for the "print" and for the help with the misterious spring of sun visors: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=15643&
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Location: Ny | Are the rear/side window gaskets original or did you replace them? Where did you get them if they are new? |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Jessica - 2017-03-23 2:07 AM
Are the rear/side window gaskets original or did you replace them? Where did you get them if they are new?
The gaskets are new. According to the reports of previous owner its W143 from Gary Goers |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | First time after a long period of darkness in the garage, I allow the hemi-muscles to pull the wagon out to get some rays of sun
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Very nice work Tom - will you manage to get it in traffic this year? |
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Location: Ny | Thanks for the info on the gaskets. They are W134 from Gary Goers. I placed my order for a set today. |
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Beyond FABULOUS.
Wagons rock, but this rare beauty really takes the cake!
Wonderful work, ToMopar.
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Location: Långserud, SWEDEN | Hi Tom, hope to see your awesome wagon sometime. I´m about to update my rear brakes.
How did you solve it. Is there any rear axle that fits right on or did you change anchorplates and shafts.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Hej Kent.
unfortunately I have changed my previous idea, and don't change the rear brake system and restore it to the condition it has leave the factory. |
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Location: Långserud, SWEDEN | Okay, I´ll figure out something. Keep on your fine work,
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Location: Upstate NY | Tom, you did it 1st Class at every detail and it shows in your beautiful wagon. Thanks also for your help and advice. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | The Wagon is coming more and more to an eye catcher
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Location: New Castle PA | As everyone has said, Tom, you have done a GREAT job on that wagon! It's incredibly beautiful! |
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Location: DFW, TX | Amazing job, Tom! That is a stunning wagon! I have enjoyed watching all of your progress. Now I'm looking forward to seeing you enjoy it! |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Danny and Ed,
thanks for the kind words.
But this car is far from finish, I would say that I have done three quarters
The Front bumper is a provisionary version, the matching front bumber is at "my" chrome guy since 2012....
And the most headache is caused by facing/covering of the rear compartment.
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Location: Western Colorado | Tom,
You have done a remarkable job on your wagon. I have been restoring my 58 New Yorker wagon for several years and it is also almost completed.
In your last post you mentioned that the most headache is the "facing/covering of the rear compartment". I too have not been able to find anyone willing to tackle the recovering of the "wheel hump" areas. Is this what you are referring to?
Here are pictures of what I need covered in vinyl. Also a couple of pictures of how the vinyl was formed around the latch and pivot areas. The old pictures are of my old parts wagon.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Yes Bob, this is it what are referring to.
At the end we solve it and I am very happy with the result.
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Location: Western Colorado | Did you use leather? How were the upper seat back latch and lower pivot point for the seat bottom finished.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | It looks so incredibly good
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | After 6 !!!! long abstaining years of waiting I finally got the bumper back from my chromguy
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Location: So. Cal | Wow, 6 years, that's obnoxiously long. Time to pick a different chrome guy! The car looks wonderful. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | In between, I was also very frustrated that it take so long...but I still have the bumpers which was on the car when it leave the factory
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Location: So. Cal | I high contrast gold grille looks good with the gold letters on the front. Like an Adventurer wagon. |
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Location: Finland | Aah .. a wunderbar thread ,thanks! Going through a rotisserie resto like this on a 58 firedome coupe so it is really inspiring. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Today was really nice weather, - perfect to implement my milestone. And to forget briefly all the terrible crap that we are currently experiencing worldwide.
Happy Easter and stay healthy
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Location: So. Cal | Great looking wagon! I really like the bends in the rear exhaust. Are those bends the same as the original exhaust? Time to go cruising or camping!
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Thank you all for the compliments,- it gives me a boost in motivation.
The next step is to pass the car inspection.
@ Steve, I don't really drive until now, because the wagon is not registered.
@ Nathan, no the bends are not original. The tubes from waldrons were not even, so I make them by myself.
Here is a picture I would worry about after camping.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | @ Mike, thanks for the compliment.
@ Sven, your seal fit perfectly and doesn't leak |
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Location: Torino - Italy | ToMopar - 2020-04-13 10:18 PM Thank you all for the compliments,- it gives me a boost in motivation. The next step is to pass the car inspection. @ Steve, I don't really drive until now, because the wagon is not registered. @ Nathan, no the bends are not original. The tubes from waldrons were not even, so I make them by myself. Here is a picture I would worry about after camping. very nice interior |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | I still have no car inspection,- but the little wagon is ready for the road.
And I claim that this is one of only two or three drivable 1957 Fireflite Wagon in the world today.
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Location: Lower Mainland BC | ToMopar - 2020-08-21 1:03 AM
I still have no car inspection,- but the little wagon is ready for the road.
Beautiful car. Well done. Congrats.
You know that when you take your car Für die Leute am TÜV Süd Stuttgart werden ihre Köpfe explodieren.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | @ Nathan,- thanks for your help - I invite you for a ride
@ Dave, the tüv guy will faint, in the case that at some time there would finally be an appointment at the test center |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Another troll is monitoring to the Shopper wagon
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Location: DFW, TX | Tom, your Desoto must be the most beautiful station wagon in existence. It is outstanding in every way, you've done an amazing job! |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Thanks Danny
there are some outstanding vehicles here on the forum. Your Nyer will be one of them for sure. With station wagons that joy seems limited, so I just did my best.
By the way,- according to the 57 DeSoto Registry (thanks Ed), my Wagon is one of two Fireflite Wagon whose driveable, and one of eleven which are still in existence
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Here is a little video about it
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | dirty weather but autumn has great colors
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WOW!!! PERFECT CAR!!!
White over Muscatel Maroon paint scheme…
Gold plated grille like on the Adventurers…
Triple front mouldings (on the front fenders and on the hood)…
Optional roof rail…
Does the car have a power tail gate window?
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Triple front mouldings (on the front fenders and on the hood)…
Standart on Fireflite Series
frwl - 2020-10-28 9:18 PM
Does the car have a power tail gate window?
No,- all the fwdlook 6 seater wagon's always have manual tail gate window in 1957.
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What will it take to get it inspected?
I have a Fireflite "wagon", but it isn't drivable yet...it could count as 12 of 11... |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | miquelonbrad - 2020-11-08 6:57 PM
What will it take to get it inspected?
I have a Fireflite "wagon", but it isn't drivable yet...it could count as 12 of 11... ;)
Thanks Brad,
I know that you own an ambulance wagon, but your car is based on an sedan, thats why I don't count it as a "wagon".
The registration fails, because I couldn't show them the right papers from customs. The Car came into Europe 15 yrs back,- so to find such papers in retrospect will be almost impossible.
But I can run this Flite with changeable license plates w/o full registration, so its solved for the moment. |
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Location: Finland | I am really sorry for your sake Thomas! So many of us overseas have been in trouble at the registration. Is it the title which is missing?
I think not all states had a title paper 1958...not sure... |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Here is another Video
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | frwl - 2020-10-28 9:18 PM
Does the car have a power tail gate window?
No Igor, sorry for late answer.
6-Seat DeSoto Wagons aka Shopper never had power windows
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