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Location: buchanan,Ga. | hey guys i was wondering if any of you guys have done this repair yourself on you car...and if so how did you attach the new outter rockers to the quarters? The way i was going to do these on my car was to put a instep on the lower quarter/ shoot two pop revits inside the door sill plate area to hold new rocker in place drill 1/4 holes every three inches and plug weld them to the quater flange from behind...would you use a flexible seam sealer between the two? Or lead it in or use a poly. based body filler that selfleveling? The reason i didn't want to weld the whole seam line is because of warpage.
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Location: Parts Unknown | The rocker panels fit inside the quarters, .... kind of an overlay job. They tie all the way back to the wheel tubs, but duck under the quarter skin right there by the back edge of the door (on a 2 door). There are spot welds along the overlay seam, as well as the bottom crimp where the two turn vertical at the very bottom. This does not seem to jive with what you are asking. I have never rebuilt one so extensively as my convertible, but do not recall coupes being much different.
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Location: Bama | I spot welded mine at the bottom and butt welded the top (under the sill plate) and side (by the qtr). |
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Location: Bama | I bought my rockers from Blackcar and the 1st one was no good, the 2nd one I ran over  the third one didn't want to fit but it massaged into place. Their fit is pretty self explanitory, you can see where I butt welded the seam(right behind the straw) 
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Location: Blythewood, SC | I would weld the whole seam. Weld an inch, and let it fully cool, skip ahead a few inches, weld another inch, let it cool, repeat. It will take time, but it is the only way to get a solid repair. Filler will crack in that area due to body flex. |
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Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | As Brian Said, The tops of the rockers Ideally want Seam Welding, The Bottoms are Only Spot welded from New, I just Finished putting Full Lower Quarters on a 66 Galaxy Convertible, I lipped the Original Panel after cutting the Crap Off, And Spotted the Panel every 6 Inchs, And then Slowly worked my way back doing another 1/4 " welds and then leaving 1/2" , Keep doing this until you have a Full Seam Weld.. Also with doing the Short Bursts of welds with a Mig, You will Not get Any Distortion,, Then with a Slight Grind Off, You will not need the Bondo..
BTW.. I do Welding as a Living, So Sorry if i make it sound Simple.. |
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Location: buchanan,Ga. | thanks guys, i want to do it the right way i have just heard about warpage on the long pan. and i'm trying to avoid that by all means. |
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Location: Kronenwetter, Wis..... . just south of Wausau | I repaired this same area on my '59 Plymouth in 2004. I replaced part of rocker and I installed a new dog leg piece. I can't weld sheet metal so I used 3M panel adhesive. I cut the old metal away, glued backing plates on inside and glued the rocker & dog leg to the backing plates. That way everything was flush and not overlapped. In case anybody is interested in this procedure.........I clamped the backing plates to my existing good metal and let adhesive dry. Then I glued new metal pieces to the backing plates. To hold the new pieces to the backing plates I drilled a few 1/8" holes and held the pieces together with sheet metal screws. When adhesive is dry remove screws and fill in holes with adhesive. I left slight gap at the seams so body filler could sit in there. You need very little body filler to complete this job. 4 years later and job is holding up and looks good; undetectable. I checked with several body shops and they all said thats how they do it. Probably because of modern cars thin sheet metal but it sure worked on my Plymouth. The adhesive comes in 2 parts and a gun rental is available at Car Quest ($5 a day) Gun mixes the 2 parts for you. |
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Location: buchanan,Ga. | Thanks fins for the info...do you remember how much 3m adhesive it took to do the job and the cost of doing it this way? |
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getting ready to install rockers and fab.innner rockers /floor flanges
