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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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I've seen generators (-Greg) with black-painted end plates on them...instead of their having
a 'natural' finish on them.
Were some gennies manufactured in both appearances???
Which got which finish on them?
Also, some power seat housings have two separate sections/pieces to their outer potmetal switch-housings.
Any functional reason(s) for this extending-out of the switches?
My ride only has one outer-switch enclosure-housing.
I've seen the thicker-section, built-up switch-enclosures on cars that do not have the chromed switch escutcheons
on them.
Greg's example appears to have both the (plastic-OEM) housing, plus the extra middle-section
on the power seat control.
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | Greg's image, above, is a bit of an optical illusion( I think); it looks like there are three pieces-sections that are
visible on the outer switch control, but I think that there are only two sections that extend out from the plastic
power seat control-housing.
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Location: Southern CA | Neil, the "extra" extension on Greg's seat switch housing is eccentric (wedge) shaped. My car has the same. It was added to cars whose seat side plastic is not plumb in the switch mounting area to allow the face of the switch to be plumb. Looks like your car didn't need one. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Here is the 57 seat switch assembly together with the steel backing plate that supports the flimsy plastic.
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | Could there be a difference in the switch housings between the two door and four door seats? The plastic seat panels are different between the two... |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | I don't know, Brad. The switch in my pics is for a 2dr ht.
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | So, it appears that Chrysler (and the other 'big' cars) may have had power seats with that xtra middle-area
chromed-section included and attached with them....? like, Greg's second photo, above???
My Dodge definitely does not need that middle-area extension on it.
It does have that stiffener/reinforcement steel-piece, though.
NOW; about which cars have the un-painted , and which have black-painted, generator end plates, on them...?
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | I checked my Canuck-built Chrysler Windsors, and they are all painted black, body and end plates.
Also, my DeSoto is U.S. built, and it is all black.
But I imagine that it might depend on which company supplied your generator, as Chrysler usually had at least two suppliers for almost all parts that they didn't produce in-house. I'm not sure if this is true for the generators, however. |
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Location: Alaska | I will check my 57 Windsor also. |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | Here's a random sampling of generators NOT having painted end plates on them:
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | I'm wondering, now, whether the factory-added-on, chromed middle-section, to the power seat switch,
might have been designed/installed in order to provide additional hand-leverage for the switch mechanism's
operation.
On the seats, their diagonal adjustments involve hand-moving two (hidden-) flipper-buttons on the switch, SIMULTANEOUSLY, but, with
one of the 'buttons' typically wanting to resist the coordinated, two-contact effort that is needed, in order to make the seat move diagonally.
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Location: Ontario, Canada | Like a dog with a bone, huh?!
Problem is, is that there is NO clear answer except, POSSIBLY, this:
The basic, run of the mill generator, you know, with small diameter frame, short length, light cast end plates with a rear bushing (instead of a rear ball bearing) and with a stamped pulley/fan assembly, USUALLY had a black frame and natural cast end plates.
I'm sure these guys all looked the same. Kicked out by the thousands like hot dogs. No special brackets, pulleys or fans. A generic fit!! Just sit off to the side and generate some juice!!
The next generation of generators had a lot more "work" to do. Used in HD applications, had to back up pressures of double A/C belts etc., etc. the list never ends! These were dual ball bearing units and frequently had speciality HD brackets( end castings).
My observations were that these guys, all really easy to spot, usually had black painted end castings.
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Location: Ontario, Canada | d500neil - 2015-08-20 12:38 AM
I'm wondering, now, whether the factory-added-on, chromed middle-section, to the power seat switch,
might have been designed/installed in order to provide additional hand-leverage for the switch mechanism's
operation.
On the seats, their diagonal adjustments involve hand-moving two (hidden-) flipper-buttons on the switch, SIMULTANEOUSLY, but, with
one of the 'buttons' typically wanting to resist the coordinated, two-contact effort that is needed, in order to make the seat move diagonally.
Neil, I don't recall ever parting a 57 Dodge with power seat. All my stuff came from Chrysler, Desoto or Imp.
All had that "wedge" intermediate Chrome piece.
Greg
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