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Location: Williams California | I bought two '58 Dodges yesterday, one of which was this sweptside truck. Does anyone have an idea of production of this model? I've looked through some of my books and cannot find the answer to that question. ---John
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Is that grey pod on the extreme left in the interior photo the pushbuttons for powerflite/tourqueflite?
Please excuse my ignorance - this is the first time I've seen the interior of a sweptside truck and I only see 2 pedals on the floor..... |
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Location: Williams California | You're correct. This truck is equipped with a torqueflite transmission.---John |
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Very cool, John.
I'm not nearly as familiar with trucks as I am with cars, but I'd think that auto trans. in ANY '50's truck is rare in itself, much less top-of-the-line 3-speed torqueflite.
Not bad at all. Interior floor looks solid and the only real rust issue I see is in the bottom passenger rear quarter behind the wheel. What's the bed like?
There's someone here that put up exterior pics of their restored Canadian '58 Fargo Sweptside within the past month and a half that's nearly identical to yours. I'll see if I can search the thread out..... |
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | AH! Didn't even have to search - it's still on the front page here in this forum. Good looking truck:
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=14962&...
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Location: Scotland | John,it says they were basically custom built to order by SEG, so no production figures exist.Here's the article
http://www.automedia.com/Modern_Classic_195759_Dodge_Sweptside_D100...
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Location: Williams California |
Thanks for the link, Mark. There's a lot of good information regarding these haulers. Now I just have to find the location of the serial # in order to get the ownership papers straightened out. ---John |
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Location: Williams California | 1959Fury - 2007-07-17 11:21 AM
Very cool, John.
I'm not nearly as familiar with trucks as I am with cars, but I'd think that auto trans. in ANY '50's truck is rare in itself, much less top-of-the-line 3-speed torqueflite.
Not bad at all. Interior floor looks solid and the only real rust issue I see is in the bottom passenger rear quarter behind the wheel. What's the bed like?
There's someone here that put up exterior pics of their restored Canadian '58 Fargo Sweptside within the past month and a half that's nearly identical to yours. I'll see if I can search the thread out.....
I took a little closer look at the overall condition of the body, and really, it is not bad. The wood in the bed floor has rotted away, and there is a slight bow in the front panel from objects rolling around in it. Looks to be fairly complete, outside of a couple trim pieces and underhood components. ---John |
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Location: SE Arizona | Always thought these would make a cute hauler.....let's see, you M'lisa,the truck and something equally neat on a trailer behind it in Branson in say 5 years or so  |
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Ain't it cool to be a MoPar guy living in the SW United States, John?  It's almost unfair to everyone else the relatively rust-free finds to be had out here/there. Awesome find.
You said you picked up two '58 Dodge's - what's the other and is it just as good as the Sweptside? |
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Location: Williams California | Here's the other Dodge-a 2-door sedan. Floors are rusted out, and appears to have been used for a donor car. Probably best used for parts. Also, a '58 wagon that was relatively complete. ---John
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Shoot, for a donor car, that one looks relatively complete - outside of most of the front, from what I can see.
Is it a Custom Royal? Or a Spring Special Coronet maybe? Can't see any script..... |
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Location: Williams California | It's a Coronet. Much of the dash is dismantled, and it appears that the trunk floor was cut completely out, possibly for use in another car. ---John |
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Ah, gotcha.
darn good donor car then. The car is still pretty straight & I'd think there'd be more than a few hardtop owners looking to snag the trim, mouldings, top sheetmetal and such..... |
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Location: Williams California | You bet, Mark. Gotta save what is out there now, as they are not making any more of them! Seriously, with the price of scrap, many yards and towing outfits are just calling in the crusher, instead of trying to sell the cars or parts. ---John |
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Location: Poznan, Poland, Europe | Nice 2 dr sedan. I like black-and-white 2 dr sedans, I always imagined them as the perfect everyday city cruisers (altough most of the grocery getters seem to be ordered in green). Speaaking about that color scheme - have seen a Sweptside in black with white or light beige, don't remember now - very impressive view. The pics are still somewhere over the web.
And those poor Canadians were not only "mercifully" spared of the regular USA-fins by the creations of Plodges, now it seems that the curved big back window for trucks also wasn't considered good thing for Canadian market by ChryCo. |
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Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | John....
1958 was the only full year of production for the Dodge Sweptside. I have info from two fellows whose fathers owned dealerships back in the 50's and they both maintain that Dodge made at least one of these for each dealer.... I think there were something like 800 or 900 dealers at that time.... Total production of 1/2 ton 2 wheel drive Dodge pickups what only about 9,000 or 10,000 in total.... I cannot imagine that 1 out of every 10 was a Sweptside.... if so, then maybe 1000 or so were made in 58. 1957 was only a partial year of production and they quit making the 59's in mid-January of that year.
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Location: cornpatch county, Southwest IOA | Mike P - 2007-07-17 9:01 PM
Always thought these would make a cute hauler.....let's see, you M'lisa,the truck and something equally neat on a trailer behind it in Branson in say 5 years or so :cool: Yes- like maybe Bob FM on his panhead. ..........MO |
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Location: Williams California | You might just be right, Steve, even though he could use the bucks, I don't think he could part with that bike easily. 5 years should give us all time to get something together. ---John |
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Location: Williams California | chrysler300c - 2007-07-25 7:55 PM
John....
1958 was the only full year of production for the Dodge Sweptside. I have info from two fellows whose fathers owned dealerships back in the 50's and they both maintain that Dodge made at least one of these for each dealer.... I think there were something like 800 or 900 dealers at that time.... Total production of 1/2 ton 2 wheel drive Dodge pickups what only about 9,000 or 10,000 in total.... I cannot imagine that 1 out of every 10 was a Sweptside.... if so, then maybe 1000 or so were made in 58. 1957 was only a partial year of production and they quit making the 59's in mid-January of that year.
George
Thanks for the info, George, and especially in showing me the serial # location on the frame. DMV here has no record of the # on file, so the titling process will be no problem. ---John |
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Location: bishop, ca | Hey, John: show us where the VIN is put, on the frame, please.
That sedan is a perfect example of what I was saying, about Spring Specials, over on the GEN DISC board; that anyone
could have a dealer (or, they could buy the individual parts over-the-counter, & do-it-themselves) install whatever S.S.
accoutrement that they wanted, to be put onto their car.
This car looks to have had only the popular side-trim be installed on it, post-production.
Interestingly, this car ALSO has the new-for-58 "Saddle-Trim" paint scheme.
I think I see straight-across upper seat-backs, so, the car apparently wasn't built as a Custom Coronet (sub-model).
As a Coro sedan, it would not have the Lance-and-Shield emblems on it, but, John, can you see any drillings, on the fender
where the "Coronet" nameplate would have been installed???
Maybe you could send me a good pic of its Paint/Trim plate?
BTW, a V/8-Torquey-flight Sweptwing is very-desireable; they DID make 6-cylinder models of it!
Was it red/white??
A LOT of Dodge truck pieces are on Epay, nowadays!!
Congrats---oh, yeah; let me take a 'crack', @ that S/W's P/T plate, too !!
Finally, have you spoken, at al, with Gary Grossich, about rescuing/doing-a-deal on his cars, that he "has" to move, from
his yard?
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Location: bishop, ca | AAAND, John: check for the Broadcast Sheets, on these guys (up/behind the glove box, and/or beneath the floor-
coverings, anywhere from the area beneath the driver's footwell, to across-the-trannie-hump, too)
Some B-Sheets have been found, lying on the floor, toward the rear seat area (where they were "tossed", by some body-
finish-inspector, before the interior was installed!
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | "Some B-Sheets have been found, lying on the floor, toward the rear seat area (where they were "tossed", by some body-
finish-inspector, before the interior was installed!" - Neil
Yep. I can personally attest to that.
The '59 Fury I came thisclose to owning in '97 - I found the build sheet for her (in the process of cleaning her up - she'd sat as a general discard box for longer than I'd care to speculate) underneath the rear seat carpet padding on the driver's side. |
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Location: Williams California | d500neil - 2007-07-26 5:09 PM
Hey, John: show us where the VIN is put, on the frame, please.
That sedan is a perfect example of what I was saying, about Spring Specials, over on the GEN DISC board; that anyone
could have a dealer (or, they could buy the individual parts over-the-counter, & do-it-themselves) install whatever S.S.
accoutrement that they wanted, to be put onto their car.
This car looks to have had only the popular side-trim be installed on it, post-production.
Interestingly, this car ALSO has the new-for-58 "Saddle-Trim" paint scheme.
I think I see straight-across upper seat-backs, so, the car apparently wasn't built as a Custom Coronet (sub-model).
As a Coro sedan, it would not have the Lance-and-Shield emblems on it, but, John, can you see any drillings, on the fender
where the "Coronet" nameplate would have been installed???
Maybe you could send me a good pic of its Paint/Trim plate?
BTW, a V/8-Torquey-flight Sweptwing is very-desireable; they DID make 6-cylinder models of it!
Was it red/white??
A LOT of Dodge truck pieces are on Epay, nowadays!!
Congrats---oh, yeah; let me take a 'crack', @ that S/W's P/T plate, too !!
Finally, have you spoken, at al, with Gary Grossich, about rescuing/doing-a-deal on his cars, that he "has" to move, from
his yard?
Neil, I'll have to do a bit of looking to see if there were any broadcast sheets, and I'll get back to you with some pics of the P/T plates.
The VIN# on the sweptside truck is located on the left frame horn, just behind the bumper bracket.
I sent Gary a list of cars that I was interested in, but I never heard back from him. He was quite busy selling his cars, I would imagine. ---John |
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Location: bishop, ca | John; keep trying to reach Gary; he's busy, & owns a pizzeria. |
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Location: Skaneateles,NY(summer)/Port St.Lucie,FL(winter) | JOHN,
I really HOPE you're not going to part out the Sweptside. I know you're in business to sell parts, but every once-in-a-while a vehicle comes along that deserves to be preserved whole and be restored...just my 2 cents... |
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Location: Williams California | 345 DeSoto - 2007-07-28 9:33 AM
JOHN,
I really HOPE you're not going to part out the Sweptside. I know you're in business to sell parts, but every once-in-a-while a vehicle comes along that deserves to be preserved whole and be restored...just my 2 cents...
I'm completely with you there, Tony. If I decide not to do anything with this truck myself, I will sell it to someone to restore. Some things you just shouldn't wreck out. ---John |
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Location: Williams California | d500neil - 2007-07-28 12:03 AM
John; keep trying to reach Gary; he's busy, & owns a pizzeria.
I'm sure that I will see Gary up there in Reno for Hot August Nights. He never misses the swap meet! ---John |
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Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | John....
Glad the titling will be no problem..... Carole and I plan on seeing you at the A&W on Tues in Reno.
George
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