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Location: Blythewood, SC | http://www.wheels.daytondailynews.com/daytondailynews/content/auton...
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Location: Seville, OH | His small operation probably can't aford it, but there is no Petroleum Institute (or whoever) Sx rating (S=Spark Ignition). Thus, I think you are relying on the refiner to provide a quality oil besides having the high zinc content. Most 60's era stuff I think required a rating of SF or above and current oils are at SM so it is probably OK. You just hope the refiner isn't adding zinc to some crappy bulk oil.
Dave
Edited by Swept57 2008-01-02 5:30 PM
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Location: Woolwich Twp, NJ (South Jersey) | Has anyone ever used Brad Penn Oils? There is a refinery in Bradford Pennsylvania that makes race grade oils with zinc, etc... They also have a straight 30 SAE-30 start-up / break in oil.
Racing Oils: http://www.bradpennracing.com/
Break In Oil: http://www.bradpennracing.com/Products/BIO30.html
Regards,
Mike
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Location: Dellslow, West ("By God") Virginia ! | Against my statement of quitting this site several moths ago. I have to jump in here and tell what I have found out.
I have written to Wolf's Head and Valvoline, because I have been using both since before the automobile was invented. (tounge in cheek)
I'll forward both letters to someone if they know how to post them in this thread.
I have been using Wolf's Head straight weights since before I was 16. Used WH clear up untill the parts store that supplied me sold out, ('90?) new owner's wanted no part of motor oils. So, I had to swtich over to Valvoline stright weight. Advanced.
The statement of 'energy conversing' or 'saving' on the API label is a reduced zinc content. Try not use those oils in older motors. The reduced zinc, or 'energy saving' oils are for the cats. High zinc content oils plugs up the cat converters.
However to supply the older motor, oil lubrication demands, the zinc content in the straight weights have not been reduced.
Meaning one does NOT have to pay an outragiously high price for a high zinc content of oil. Dayton oil I think is one. 3 or 4 $ something a quart!
Valvoline 30w has 800 ppm's of zinc. Enough to sastify the flat tappet lubrication requirments.
Wolf's Head Heavy Duty 30w has 900 ppm's of zinc.
As most of you know I have 515K miles on that oil F-250 ALL straight weight. Wife's Bronco 250K, all straight weight.
Now with this information one doesn't have to buy a special high, priced/advertised zinc content, motor oil. Just get Val or WH 30w. |
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Wise Old Village Idiot
Posts: 3591
Location: Dellslow, West ("By God") Virginia ! | Against my statement of quitting this site several moths ago. I have to jump in here and tell what I have found out.
I have written to Wolf's Head and Valvoline, because I have been using both since before the automobile was invented. (tounge in cheek)
I'll forward both letters to someone if they know how to post them in this thread.
I have been using Wolf's Head straight weights since before I was 16. Used WH clear up untill the parts store that supplied me sold out, ('90?) new owner's wanted no part of motor oils. So, I had to swtich over to Valvoline stright weight. Advanced.
The statement of 'energy conversing' or 'saving' on the API label is a reduced zinc content. Try not use those oils in older motors. The reduced zinc, or 'energy saving' oils are for the cats. High zinc content oils plugs up the cat converters.
However to supply the older motor, oil lubrication demands, the zinc content in the straight weights have not been reduced.
Meaning one does NOT have to pay an outragiously high price for a high zinc content of oil. Dayton oil I think is one. 3 or 4 $ something a quart!
Valvoline 30w has 800 ppm's of zinc. Enough to sastify the flat tappet lubrication requirments.
Wolf's Head Heavy Duty 30w has 900 ppm's of zinc.
As most of you know I have 515K miles on that oil F-250 ALL straight weight. Wife's Bronco 250K, all straight weight.
Now with this information one doesn't have to buy a special high, priced/advertised zinc content, motor oil. Just get Val or WH 30w. |
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Location: Etters Pa | Good to see ya back on the boards! |
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Location: Seville, OH | And this is why you shouldn't quit this site, alumcan. Spread the knowledge! |
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Location: Skaneateles,NY(summer)/Port St.Lucie,FL(winter) | ...OR use a multi grade CI rated Diesel oil, such as Delo. I had been using Shell Rotella, until they lowered the Zinc content and gave it a CJ rating... |
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Location: The not-so-great, dirty-white North ( Michigan) | I found this on the ALLPAR site.
It gives a little comfort that those not able to find the ZDDP oils can possible get by with other oils, but I see several caveats built into this document.
Bottom line is: "if you can find a ZDDP oil, you might be better off using it".
http://www.allpar.com/old/oils.php |
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Location: northern germany | i think THIS is the better solution. 0w50 (!) motor oil:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ENEOS-0W-50-1Qt-100-Fully-Synthetic-...
Exceeds:
API SM SAE 0W-50
Recommended for use in racing or highly modified street engines where an SAE 0W50, 5W40, 5W30, 10W30, 10W40 or 15W40 are specified. Commonly used in Formula 1, Champ cars, SCCA road racing, NHRA drag racing and circle track. Turbo and supercharged approved. Also recommended for early or late model high-output sports cars and hot rods. Excellent choice for dual duty engines used for street and competition use. Provides the ultimate cold temperature performance over Group IV/V Synthetic (petroleum - based) motor oils within the same viscosity grade.
Edited by 1960fury 2008-01-03 11:55 AM
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High zinc oil
