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Posted 2011-10-12 7:41 PM (#292377)
Subject: 1957 Imperial Convertible for sale in San Diego California


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I am fairly sure this is the ex Pierre Brunet car. Pierre did a pretty decent cosmetic restoration on the car and sold it still needing a top and some other minor detailing. Judging from the pictures, they put a new Haartz cloth top on it and cleaned up the engine bay. Nice color!
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hullinger
Posted 2011-10-12 8:27 PM (#292380 - in reply to #292377)
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There's that 24 mile per hour sign again!
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imopar380
Posted 2011-10-12 9:18 PM (#292382 - in reply to #292377)
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For the kind of money spent on this car, and what they're asking, you would think they could have gotten the upholstery pattern correct. It's similar but not exact to original. It's also missing the embossed "crowns" on the seats.

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hemidenis
Posted 2011-10-12 9:30 PM (#292383 - in reply to #292377)
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that imperial is gorgeous and AC car, I don’t know if the price is right with this economy.
Are some bolts missing in the heater box? steering wheel cracked?
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imopar380
Posted 2011-10-12 9:33 PM (#292385 - in reply to #292383)
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This is how the seats should look:





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hullinger
Posted 2011-10-12 10:13 PM (#292390 - in reply to #292377)
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Not to pick the car apart, but, I'm such a stickler for the right tires with the correct width white walls. These 'gangsta' tires just don't look right the way the correct tires would.
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hemidave
Posted 2011-10-12 10:19 PM (#292392 - in reply to #292383)
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hemidenis - 2011-10-12 9:30 PM

that imperial is gorgeous and AC car, I don’t know if the price is right with this economy.
Are some bolts missing in the heater box? steering wheel cracked?


Didn't this car sell for $39K in the Monterey Auction?

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GregCon
Posted 2011-10-13 12:12 AM (#292401 - in reply to #292377)
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I could live with the seats and all the small details, but that color is all wrong for the car. It reminds me of a huge, topless salmon.

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hemidenis
Posted 2011-10-13 12:19 AM (#292402 - in reply to #292377)
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Yes the upholstery is incorrect, they are at least 30 strips sewed together in each side. The upholstery guy went for just 9 lines
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Posted 2011-10-13 3:37 AM (#292412 - in reply to #292402)
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Her's the correct upholstery, madre from the original by Goers.
The car is well a mopar from the Pierre Brunet's collection (the guy who sold a lot of mopar 1 or 2 months agp)

The top mechanism "cover" is missing on each side and also the rear courtesy lights.

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moparsteve
Posted 2011-10-13 10:47 AM (#292433 - in reply to #292377)
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allright haggle a little with hyman - bring cash - 60 thosand - in hundreds....try to talk him down as low as 50... youll prob. get it for 55k and what you

save orfer the correct interior....
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imopar380
Posted 2011-10-13 12:35 PM (#292440 - in reply to #292390)
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hullinger - 2011-10-12 7:13 PM

Not to pick the car apart, but, I'm such a stickler for the right tires with the correct width white walls. These 'gangsta' tires just don't look right the way the correct tires would.


I agree completely on the whitewall width, I just didn't want to put too many negatives in my first post! The correct width whitewall proportional to the black area on the tire is critical, these tires would be more suited to a 1949-50 car .
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imopar380
Posted 2011-10-14 12:07 AM (#292510 - in reply to #292377)
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I Emailed the seller regarding the incorrect upholstery pattern. He said he knew it was incorrect, and he would be asking $10,000 to $15,000 more if it were correct!
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Posted 2011-10-14 9:12 AM (#292519 - in reply to #292377)
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Did you ask him if the car has ever spent time in the Columbia River, near Portland maybe?
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hemidenis
Posted 2011-10-14 11:51 AM (#292539 - in reply to #292377)
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Imopar, would you ask for a picture of the VIN? Phil sure can tell us more about it with that info

Those details make the car for people willing to pay the money; of course they are always deep pockets around that they don’t care. The question is, if they skip those visible details I'm wonder what they overlooked in the engine trans and those items that you don’t see?.
Still, the car is beautiful it has the optional hood bird on it, but that color combo maybe for the lady of the house.
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Phil_the_frenchie
Posted 2011-10-14 12:29 PM (#292544 - in reply to #292539)
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I've made some researchs on my computer and i've found that Pierre Brunet bought the car on ebay in 2009. The car was in Sweden and it returned to USA, amazing isn'it ?

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d500neil
Posted 2011-10-14 2:22 PM (#292555 - in reply to #292377)
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So, what did Pierre pay for the car, in 2009?

As Denis says, an informed buyer must look beyond the body style and the paint condition to find the true value and
worth of an "old car" being offered for sale.

LOL: a good marketing ploy would have been to acknowledge that the car has an incorrect interior (or, that
it had spent time in the Columbia River)...and to state that its sale offer would have been $10-15K HIGHER
if it had had the correct leather/cloth interior in it.






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hemidenis
Posted 2011-10-14 5:29 PM (#292568 - in reply to #292377)
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Yes, and it is a good view of the kick panels speakers and a huge crack in the steering wheel. Even that the upholstery look like I did the work, the dashboard look pretty good from that angle.
It is pretty amazing a car returning to the US. I remember a Cuda worth a million bucks coming back to the US, but that was a car made for the French market with Km/h speedometer.
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Posted 2011-10-14 5:50 PM (#292569 - in reply to #292568)
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hemidenis - 2011-10-14 11:29 PM
I remember a Cuda worth a million bucks coming back to the US, but that was a car made for the French market with Km/h speedometer.
Yes, it was a 1971 Hemi Cuda convertible. The car was sold new in France , in fact there were two hemicuda cv. sold in France in 1971 !
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GregCon
Posted 2011-10-14 6:04 PM (#292571 - in reply to #292377)
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IMO, there are really only three colors that fly on a car like that - white, black and red.
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imopar380
Posted 2011-10-14 6:14 PM (#292573 - in reply to #292377)
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Looking at the back seat, they went to the trouble of having the Crown embossed in the centre panel...... why didn't they bother to do the correct pleated pattern???? It's not far off but come on, you'd think they would have checked brochures etc. before doing it.
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Posted 2011-10-14 11:06 PM (#292600 - in reply to #292377)
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I think it's a beautiful color that's not seen very often (looks even better in Phil's pictures). If it were my car, I would fill it with people and drive it. No one would be able to count the stitches in the upholstery that way. If I were to change anything it would be to put a 58 grille and front bumper on it. None of this really matters to me because convertibles in general are out of my price range.
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d500neil
Posted 2011-10-15 4:51 PM (#292700 - in reply to #292377)
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You mean, Don, if the car were to be given to you, you'd drive the wheels off of it....I would, too!

But,the seller wants $80K for this car, as-is.

Somebody with that much really-disposable income would either have so much money, that he'd have a lot of other, newer,
cars to drive, and/or he would not ever really enjoy this car as it was meant to be used, or, he might spend the money to
complete this car's restoration (after which it probably wouldn't get to be driven, very much, either).

Our fantasy is that some really rich guy says: "screw it, I've got more money than cents, so I'm going to over-pay mucho for
this car, but will go hot-rodding around in it"....



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Posted 2011-10-16 2:14 AM (#292780 - in reply to #292571)
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I can't imagine a better color for this car. Put a black top on it.
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