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Location: SWITZERLAND | When restoring my 59' Dodge I replaced the Water Pump. Having Heat Problems when idling, I thought I should not use the Standard Water Pump working on the centrifugal priniciple, because this is most efficient at higher RPMs. Therefore I found the "curved" Water Pump, called "/Power Water Pump" working better at low RPMs (see Picture). The results have been marginal better, I cannot say if it was a good change. I left it until now. There are various propellers, they rarely show from this side in eBays. Can somebody tell, if the plane ring on the old Water Pump is original, and if this may help for a better cooling? - SERGE -
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Location: N.W. Fla. | The backing plate should increase efficientcy. |
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Location: Chestertown, NY ( near Lake George) | Why are you having problems overheating, the root problem should be solved, the oe style water pump worked fine when new what has changed? |
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Location: SWITZERLAND | Could be the front plate decreases thre efficiency, Never seen this before. A big job for nothing?
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Location: N.W. Fla. | sermey - 2008-12-23 6:01 PM
Could be the front plate decreases thre efficiency, Never seen this before. A big job for nothing?
I've seen plates that could be added to w/ps that don't have them to move more water, according to whatever catalog it was in, probably for an off topic brand car. |
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| That ring might help a little, but looks like it is a thin paper gasket and will
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Location: Kansas City, Missouri | That ring is there to keep the water from falling off the side
of the impeller. It forces the water to exit out the outlet.
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Location: SWITZERLAND | matador60 - 2008-12-25 2:34 PM That ring is there to keep the water from falling off the side of the impeller. It forces the water to exit out the outlet. Everett Mean, I had better left this Water Pump? Or, can somebody tell what is and where can I get this most efficient Water Pump? |
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Location: northern germany | what shep said. if you have a stock engine you should use the oe water pump. this has been designed for your car and worked for millions of cars around the world from the sahara desert to alaska. if your engine overheats the problem is somewhere else.
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Location: SWITZERLAND | 1960fury - 2008-12-25 10:37 PM what shep said. if you have a stock engine you should use the oe water pump. this has been designed for your car and worked for millions of cars around the world from the sahara desert to alaska. if your engine overheats the problem is somewhere else. Yes, I also think so. Can it be that the mufflers have an influence? A specialist Company built there own stainless Custom Mufflers. The Tubes have 2" Diameter.
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Location: northern germany | sermey - 2008-12-25 4:54 PM
Yes, I also think so. Can it be that the mufflers have an influence?
yes, in theory. if you're running mufflers which are less restrictive than stock (not difficult) it makes your engine run leaner (and hotter) you will have to adjust jetting to enjoy the advantages of a free flowing exhaust system (more power without increased fuel consumption-a more efficient engine) "read" your sparkplugs. |
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| 1960fury - 2008-12-25 4:37 PM
what shep said. if you have a stock engine you should use the oe water pump. this has been designed for your car and worked for millions of cars around the world from the sahara desert to alaska. if your engine overheats the problem is somewhere else.
Yep, im going through the same thing, engine reaches max temp on the temp gauge in less than 10 minutes.... I replaced everything adding a 16" electric cooling fan and recored radiator.....
If the airflow is fine than the problem is circulation of the coolant..... this seems to be the problem with
your cooling system as well as mine..... my suggestion, flush the cooling system out over and over.....
You might even have to pop out the freeze plugs on the side of the engine if the flush isnt successful....
I even went to the extreme of filling my system with white vinegar and lemon juice.... white vinegar known
to be the strongest cleaner of hard mineral deposits, and the lemon juice for the citric acid..... I left it in for 3 -4
weeks then I flushed my system out with water then filled with 50/50 antifreeze, it hasnt run hot since......
Replace simple things first like the thermostat and make sure the fan belt is tight..... good luck..... |
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Location: SWITZERLAND | 59CRL - 2008-12-27 5:21 AM 1960fury - 2008-12-25 4:37 PM what shep said. if you have a stock engine you should use the oe water pump. this has been designed for your car and worked for millions of cars around the world from the sahara desert to alaska. if your engine overheats the problem is somewhere else. Yep, im going through the same thing, engine reaches max temp on the temp gauge in less than 10 minutes.... I replaced everything adding a 16" electric cooling fan and recored radiator..... If the airflow is fine than the problem is circulation of the coolant..... this seems to be the problem with your cooling system as well as mine..... my suggestion, flush the cooling system out over and over..... You might even have to pop out the freeze plugs on the side of the engine if the flush isnt successful.... I even went to the extreme of filling my system with white vinegar and lemon juice.... white vinegar known to be the strongest cleaner of hard mineral deposits, and the lemon juice for the citric acid..... I left it in for 3 -4 weeks then I flushed my system out with water then filled with 50/50 antifreeze, it hasnt run hot since...... Replace simple things first like the thermostat and make sure the fan belt is tight..... good luck..... Greg, as you already sugested, I flushed the Cooling System with "stone removing solvent" used in sanitary - nothing came out at all, the water clear as Mineral Water. My 361 Engine had been rebuilt from scratch and runs excellent. After all the efforts without any better results I think I have to change, as sugested 1960fury, the custom manufactured mufflers. Where to get two correct stainless mufflers for a quite sound?
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Location: northern germany | sermey - 2008-12-27 12:48 PM
I think I have to change, as sugested 1960fury, the custom manufactured mufflers. Where to get two correct stainless mufflers for a quite sound?
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Location: SWITZERLAND | 1960fury - 2008-12-27 8:34 PM sermey - 2008-12-27 12:48 PM I think I have to change, as sugested 1960fury, the custom manufactured mufflers. Where to get two correct stainless mufflers for a quite sound? i did not suggest that :o To be correct: It was me supposing this. You stated a reasonable and plausible Argument. For me a Motivation to investigate in this Direction. Thank you. 
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| 1960fury - 2008-12-25 5:39 PM
sermey - 2008-12-25 4:54 PM
Yes, I also think so. Can it be that the mufflers have an influence?
yes, in theory. if you're running mufflers which are less restrictive than stock (not difficult ) it makes your engine run leaner (and hotter ) you will have to adjust jetting to enjoy the advantages of a free flowing exhaust system (more power without increased fuel consumption-a more efficient engine ) "read" your sparkplugs.
Your engine wont run much hotter, not to the extent of overheating.... it is better for your engine to breath.....
Sermey, you said you had the engine rebuilt, did you have it hot tanked, you sure there are no blockages
in the block and the radiator is clear.....
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