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Location: Australia | i can decode the bottom numbers... but what do the numbers under the letters stand for? they are option codes arent they? but can anyone decode them?
cheers adriana 
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Maybe Bill can, the problem with the Letter/Number combos is that they where actually not the same between the brands or even not the same from factory to factory.
You need to dig deep in what options your car has Adriana - that can give clues to the hard-core guys. I'm trying to dechifre the Chrysler 60 tags with help from many body-tags, car owners, visual checks of the actual cars and most of all the knowledge from Bill Watson - Chrycoman.
PS - I've heard the name "Designator" for the Letter/Number combo - but I'm not sure that's correct DS
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Location: Australia | just thought there might be a decoder available for the top section, wanted to know what number/ letters actually referred too... well my car has on it... padded dash, one outside mirror, cigar lighter, jiffy jet system, deluxe radio... which i believe are all original options to the car... adriana |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Yep Adriana - those are all optionals on a Plymouth! I tried to check with my '60 notes, but no Chrysler codes seems to fit in on your '61 Plymouth. As for the bigger numbers 1 5 (15) and 6 punched over the letters (or under the first number row), I really don't know what they stand for.
There's difference even on Chrysler tags from 60 to 61.
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Location: bishop, ca | What you can START to do (it only will take a decade or so, if you are diligent), is compare your P/T plate to your
car's IBM card copy, and with those of as many different 61 PLY's, as possible.
Hopefully, there will not be a lot of numbers-replication of option coding on your IBM card copy ; suppose that you find only one "5"
on the IBM card--- that will pretty much confirm that that 'spot' on the P/T plate confirms/reveals an option code "5".
But, your particular P/T plate has two "5's" on it, so, the B./Sheet and the IBM card will have at least two "5's" on it, as well.
There CAN/could be MORE than just two "5's" on the IBM card, however, because not all of the many-different
options-codes that a car has are listed ON the P/T plate.
You might, then, have had one of the codes broken--bummer--- that your P/T plate has TWO "5's" on it; "1's", "2's" and "3's" are very
common codings, on the Broadcast & IBM documents, as well.
But, there IS only one "6" and one "7" on your P/T plate!
Well, that's how you begin: you need to find as many 61 PLY's as possible, hopefully with a receptive owner who will/can go
over his car's options with you, and who will, hopefully, have a heavily optioned car, and who will have either/both of the
B.Sheet and the IBM card on his car, to refer to.
You should also design a formal 1961 PLY car-owner Registration Form so that the cars' records that you
document can be preserved and referenced in the future.
Find-document enough people/cars like that, and, eventually, you, too, will be a code breaker.
What is frustrating is that you will find a lot of P/T plates, e.g., but you will not have a B.Sheet or IBM card copy, to refer to, for decoding
it.
Now, for the PhD in code breaking, there are MANY individual code-items which have SEVERAL different option code numbers
which can appear on a P/T plate, such as that/those for tinted window variations.
And, then, there's the problem of INTERPRETING what a known-number might confirm (such as your P/T plate's "6" and its "7"),
even on the Broadcast Sheet and or on the IBM card copy--AND, being able to READ a lousy-condition photocopy of the IBM card!
Dealer invoices are also really helpful (as in confirming a tire type and size) for various various option
codes and shipping information.
Ross Roy data (propaganda-) books, and factory paint/trim selector-books are invaluable reference materials.
Good luck, and now go get started....
Edited by d500neil 2009-09-09 6:44 PM
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Location: bishop, ca | And, as examples of frustrating option codes, for the 1959 Dodges, there is a "Roof Molding" that can "optionally" appear on convertibles
and there is a particular option code ("319", IIRC) which has NO printed-wording for it appearing on either the Broadcast Sheets or on
the IBM card copies.
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