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firedome
Posted 2010-02-14 5:19 PM (#209538)
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Location: NY & VT		Yep, my car, full price too. All the serious inquiries I got were from overseas, just BS and hot air from locals. No problem, now it will get restored right, but what the hell is wrong with people here in the US??? Too broke? or don't appreciate FLs the way others overseas do? This was one good but cheap car, affordable by almost anyone... wake up people!
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Posted 2010-02-14 6:59 PM (#209562 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK		Sorry i never got back to you Roger.. But Basically the Dock people are messing me around and demanding Lots more $$$ to have the Car pushed On and Off the Boat as it is a Non Runner ,, I mean't to Email you a few days back.. My Lose but glad the Desoto found a good home..

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Posted 2010-02-14 7:01 PM (#209564 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Netherlands		Even though I'm from Europe myself, I find it 'sad' to see the 'motherland' is drained from it's rich car-history by all of the cool stuff leaving the country all the time.
On the other hand of course these same cars liven up the roads in 'our' areas.

I think 'we' as foreigners appreciate these 'special' cars more just because we've never had these kinda cars in the numbers on the roads as you Americans have.
We might look the same at an old Opel or Fiat perhaps, as not being so special to us.

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Posted 2010-02-15 1:10 AM (#209613 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN		Think of those cars who end up in a shed in bahrain or any other oil producing middle east country! fat chance of buying them back to civiliation!

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Posted 2010-02-15 6:48 AM (#209624 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Australia		good for you roger

dad misses out, he was still sorting things out... i knew it would go quickly... will be very pretty when done... adriana

bigblockmopar: its the same over here, i see all the aussie valiants and chryslers as well as the fords and holdens and they dont do much for me... but the big american cars do i guess you always want what you cant have... or in this case you can have, with alot of organising and money... but its all well worth it
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Posted 2010-02-15 2:56 PM (#209677 - in reply to #209624)
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£1 = $1.56
€1= $1.36

They are buying your car at 2/3 your asking price. How can American buyers compete with that?

Also, they have to wait for an opportunity to find a rare car like your DeSoto through some online source such as FL.net or eBay. Americans have an advantage in that they are more likely to 'stumble' on a good local deal that was never advertised.

I'm glad you sold your car, and as we all know, the Europeans do top-notch restorations!
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Posted 2010-02-15 3:22 PM (#209679 - in reply to #209677)
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I was aiting fo rthe weather to break so I could sell my 60 IMpala and hit you up then. I know a lot of people who get on this site are from over seas but it makes me sad when one goes there... Wish I could have hit you up sooner...
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Posted 2010-02-15 6:50 PM (#209716 - in reply to #209677)
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57burb - 2010-02-15 2:56 PM

As of today,

£1 = $1.56
€1= $1.36

They are buying your car at 2/3 your asking price. How can American buyers compete with that?




And we have a WINNER!! AMEN..That tells the story right there....
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Posted 2010-02-15 7:08 PM (#209719 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Netherlands		57burb, but American buyers don't have to pay an additional $2000-$3000 shipping-, tax and handlingcosts to get the car at their front doors
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Posted 2010-02-15 11:12 PM (#209764 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Florida		Domestic US truck shipping to me in Florida for a car like this 1300-1500 miles away is usually over $1000. Add another $150-$200 if it doesn't run under it's own power.

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sparky7
Posted 2010-02-16 12:03 AM (#209783 - in reply to #209764)
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It's more expensive for Europeans than it was last Fall. The US Dollar is trending up against the Euro lately.

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Posted 2010-02-16 1:30 AM (#209795 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Australia		depending on where the car is located it costs however much to get it to the shipping yard and then $4000- $5000 to get the car to australia... and then a full resto to be able to get it registered LHD over here in SA... adriana

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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2010-02-16 12:17 PM (#209856 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Netherlands		ChopperJohn, I got a similar distance transport for a car pretty soon.
Minnesota to NewJersey. Got a quote last year aswell for $1000.-
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Posted 2010-02-16 12:33 PM (#209859 - in reply to #209856)
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden		Hi Herman! What car have you bought? (similar distance transport for a car pretty soon.
Minnesota to NewJersey)

Her is a old pic when my Windsor 50 arrved to my home imported 2005 (comes with truck from Gothenburg port)
(sold the Windsor same year) Very nice and no rust at the car

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sermey
Posted 2010-02-16 12:58 PM (#209864 - in reply to #209677)
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57burb - 2010-02-15 8:56 PM As of today, £1 = $1.56 €1= $1.36 They are buying your car at 2/3 your asking price. How can American buyers compete with that? Also, they have to wait for an opportunity to find a rare car like your DeSoto through some online source such as FL.net or eBay. Americans have an advantage in that they are more likely to 'stumble' on a good local deal that was never advertised. I'm glad you sold your car, and as we all know, the Europeans do top-notch restorations!

One day, when the USD will be high enough, many of this nice cars will return home - to US. 



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Posted 2010-02-16 1:17 PM (#209871 - in reply to #209864)
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57burb - 2010-02-15 8:56 PM As of today, £1 = $1.56 €1= $1.36 They are buying your car at 2/3 your asking price. How can American buyers compete with that? Also, they have to wait for an opportunity to find a rare car like your DeSoto through some online source such as FL.net or eBay. Americans have an advantage in that they are more likely to 'stumble' on a good local deal that was never advertised. I'm glad you sold your car, and as we all know, the Europeans do top-notch restorations!

One day, when the USD will be high enough, many of this nice cars will return home - to US. 



New renovaited in good conditions, they bee back.
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Posted 2010-02-16 2:07 PM (#209878 - in reply to #209871)
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57burb - 2010-02-15 8:56 PM As of today, £1 = $1.56 €1= $1.36 They are buying your car at 2/3 your asking price. How can American buyers compete with that? Also, they have to wait for an opportunity to find a rare car like your DeSoto through some online source such as FL.net or eBay. Americans have an advantage in that they are more likely to 'stumble' on a good local deal that was never advertised. I'm glad you sold your car, and as we all know, the Europeans do top-notch restorations!

One day, when the USD will be high enough, many of this nice cars will return home - to US. 

New renovaited in good conditions, they bee back. ;)

And a Windsor 59, may-be one day, goes to Thailand - with Joakim?

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Posted 2010-02-16 2:19 PM (#209880 - in reply to #209878)
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57burb - 2010-02-15 8:56 PM As of today, £1 = $1.56 €1= $1.36 They are buying your car at 2/3 your asking price. How can American buyers compete with that? Also, they have to wait for an opportunity to find a rare car like your DeSoto through some online source such as FL.net or eBay. Americans have an advantage in that they are more likely to 'stumble' on a good local deal that was never advertised. I'm glad you sold your car, and as we all know, the Europeans do top-notch restorations!

One day, when the USD will be high enough, many of this nice cars will return home - to US. 

New renovaited in good conditions, they bee back. ;)

And a Windsor 59, may-be one day, goes to Thailand - with Joakim?



It would be nice to live there, beautiful nature, beaches, Sun shines every day and nice people. Maybe we should start a club where FL when we become Adré?



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RDP
Posted 2010-02-16 3:59 PM (#209891 - in reply to #209677)
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57burb - 2010-02-15 8:56 PM

As of today,

£1 = $1.56
€1= $1.36

They are buying your car at 2/3 your asking price. How can American buyers compete with that?


Not everyone. In Poland we do not have the €. PLN (polski zloty) is the native currency.
$ 1 = 2.9 PLN
€ 1 = 3.9 PLN
Import an additional cost. It is not cheap.
Mayby need move to Sweden

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firedome
Posted 2010-02-17 10:57 AM (#210065 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: NY & VT		I have to admire the dedication of commitment of anyone who goes to all the trouble and expense to import a car like mine and then restore it... hopefully out of love and not to flip for a buck... or Kroner, Euro, Pound.

It's getting picked up today, and it will be hard to see it go away on a trailer. My hope is to find an inexpensive '50s car, from the time I grew up, no doubt a 4 dr sedan or wagon, which is what almost everyone had, one that I can have fun with right away without getting into body work and all the physical work and expense it entails. I'm too old for that stuff anymore. Luckily I still have my '71 Fury III sedan thst I paid all of $800 for. It's rust free and only needs some freeze plugs before I can drive it and have fun.

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Posted 2010-02-17 11:12 AM (#210071 - in reply to #210065)
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden		Hi Firedome!
Hope you found a new old classic FL. And you own nice full size Fury III.
It was a reportage at a Swedish Classic car magazine, when two Buick Skylark 54 conv go back from Sweden to US for two mounth ago. And it was one buyer from US ho bought both two.

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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2010-02-17 12:08 PM (#210086 - in reply to #209859)
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Hi Herman! What car have you bought?


a '59 Dodge, 2dr HT.
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Posted 2010-02-17 12:15 PM (#210088 - in reply to #210086)
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How you found it?
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Posted 2010-02-17 12:29 PM (#210093 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Netherlands		If you don't count the '67 Dodge Charger I have, then yes this will be my first Dodge.
Found it here on the forum somewhere last year. The car is being prepared for shipping by the end of this month and then hopefully it will come over.
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Posted 2010-02-17 12:35 PM (#210096 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island		In Sweden, most owners and car hobby renovators actually loves that car/year model so much that they goes through a lot of difficulties and spend a lot of money to have their dream car. Even here in Sweden, naturally we have people who buys, sells and trade themselves up to their wanted car or make a buck on the deals - normally, those people does not love a particular car, but most of them likes the American cars from the late forties to the late sixties. Many cars have been bought and imported to Sweden and FinLand, in a state that our american friends would consider beyound salvation, even if the Man up there gave it a try. Some of those cars are the ones you see in the pictures from Västerås and Rättvik today. A "crazy" man has brought back a rusty wreck to the shining state of a new car, many times even so much better than ever produced and assembled in the factories. I think we do this out of love of a certain car, lack of the dough to buy it "ready to drive", and also as a challange - to show all of the doubters that we actually did it and darned good to. In a way, I find it sad that we rob you of a piece of American culture and history, but on the other hand, many of those cars would have been chrushed anyway.
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Posted 2010-02-17 12:53 PM (#210104 - in reply to #209538)
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Posted 2010-02-17 8:20 PM (#210210 - in reply to #210096)
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Well said, Sven.

Not to mention the effort you guys have put in to faithfully reproduce parts that were previously unobtainable. The repro parts that I see coming from Sweden are of the highest quality. You guys deserve applause for all your hard work.

Ron

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Posted 2010-02-18 12:13 PM (#210322 - in reply to #209538)
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Posted 2010-02-18 12:38 PM (#210330 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island		Here you are Robert http://www.kpusabil.se/
- Kent and Peter is good guys with a fair price level for good reproduction stuff. Tell them hello from Sven.

The good thing about this is that you'll pay no customs fees between EU contries

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Posted 2010-02-18 12:59 PM (#210333 - in reply to #209538)
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Posted 2010-02-18 1:47 PM (#210342 - in reply to #210330)
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Location: DFW, TX		Our friends in Scandanavia do the best restorations, period. I am very proud that a few of them are here on this board and share their work (and products) with us.

Is it so bad that I'm "glad" to see the DeSoto going to Europe? I already know it will remain a beautiful treasure there, and won't be subject to the abuse that a lot of misguided Americans would do to it.

<--- possible American car abuser!
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Posted 2010-02-18 4:00 PM (#210368 - in reply to #210096)
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Location: Bjorneborg, Finland		It's quite descriptive.. a stunning condition white '58 300D was sold from Finland to Sweden some time ago. The buyer had already FOUR 300D's. The white one lacked from the garage and he wanted badly the one. Now he's happy to have five D's in his garage all in different colors . Zeesus. this endless amount of bucks, but knowing they haven't been at war in past 200 years (we have been a bumper for them to the east..) How many cars the average Swede gearhead owns? Not all imported old cars goes to the new hobbyists..
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Posted 2010-02-19 11:10 AM (#210533 - in reply to #209538)
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Posted 2010-02-19 1:56 PM (#210553 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island		Sure thing Robert - I'm here for to help if i can! Please update your profile with your closest city as well, might be helpful for bouth you and other guys. There's a ferry from Gdynia to Karlskrona, "my" closest city - the distance from Karlskrona to Ronneby is approximately 30 km - that is if you should be interested to go to the Nostalgia car show http://www.nostalgiafestival.se/index.php
I know that we had a few Polish guys coming over with their cars during the last 2 years, and I'm sure there will be more of you carnuts from Poland 2010. Be one of them? Would be nice to meet you.
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Posted 2010-02-19 2:15 PM (#210555 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: NY & VT		Sven, I have no doubt that is true, and many of the restorations I've seen done over there are first class. I've seen equally good ones done here too. It all depends on the dedication, skill and money available to the owner.

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Posted 2010-02-19 2:49 PM (#210561 - in reply to #209538)
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Location: PL / EU		I heard about Nostalgiafestival. Yes, I know that there were a few people from Poland.
Maybe someday I will go there. Now saves money for the renovation of my Fury.
I am not a rich guy:)

Roger your Packard is very pretty. oryginal car is my dream
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Posted 2010-02-19 2:53 PM (#210564 - in reply to #209538)
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Posted 2010-02-19 8:34 PM (#210627 - in reply to #209538)
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firedome - 2010-02-14 5:19 PM

Yep, my car, full price too. All the serious inquiries I got were from overseas, just BS and hot air from locals. No problem, now it will get restored right, but what the hell is wrong with people here in the US??? Too broke? or don't appreciate FLs the way others overseas do? This was one good but cheap car, affordable by almost anyone... wake up people!


Why is it always that way? I know the weak dollar is part of it,but even when the economy was good over here it always seems like locals are cheapskates or think these cars arent worth anything?
Seriously,there were two 1960 Adventurers on craigslist in the southern california area a while back (both two door hardtops) and the seller kept getting put through the mill by lowballers who wanted them for nothing (probably to resell it overseas themselves)...which is where the guy finally sold them both to!

I have noticed that some of our best forward look Mopars have wound up in Australia and Sweden...those guys have really good taste and love our big finned American cars.
I used to know someone from Sweden years ago and was amazed at the car magazines he showed me and the level of dedication put into the restorations.
There was one guy who had five different 1959 Buick models! and his garage was bigger than his house!
Out in Sweden they even have an event called "power meet" (I think) where everyone drives around in their finned beasts listening to music and having a blast...Its really amazing.
Out here we go to a car show and its nothing but a bunch of 57 chebbys and 64 1/2 mustangs...and nobody drives them!

What gives?

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Posted 2010-02-20 2:53 AM (#210677 - in reply to #210627)
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1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-02-19 5:34 PM


Why is it always that way? I know the weak dollar is part of it,but even when the economy was good over here it always seems like locals are cheapskates or think these cars aren't worth anything?



I wish I knew. Remember my comment about how some demo derby drivers will see a solid old sedan for $2000 and offer $1500, but the car hobbyist will say that it's a $400 parts car and P.O. the seller?

I once offered to GIVE away a '59 Plymouth wagon, minus engine and transmission, to several different members, figuring it would help them get back into the hobby as they had suffered some financial setbacks. Two of them went into "haggling mode" (FREE car mind, you), concerning the car's rust and interior.

I decided to trade the wagon for an early 1970s Satellite Sebring parts coupe to restore my '72.

I also have noticed some hobbyists speaking of Asians, Jews, Arabs and Scotsmen as being "tight" or "cheap", but when it comes to this hobby, it's "junk" if they're buying and "gold" if they're selling. Go figure!


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Posted 2010-02-20 3:00 AM (#210679 - in reply to #210677)
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Of course, if somebody here in the U.S. could love them as much I do, despite their four doors and/or manual trannys, that would be absolutely awesome!


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Posted 2010-02-20 7:47 AM (#210694 - in reply to #209538)
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Posted 2010-02-20 11:39 PM (#210794 - in reply to #210677)
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I'll never be able to some folks out!
What really amazes me is the *junk* people WILL blow money on!

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Posted 2010-02-20 11:51 PM (#210797 - in reply to #210679)
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Kenny J. - 2010-02-20 3:00 AM

By the way, I may live to regret this, but I will openly state that if I have to leave the hobby, I'd rather see my finned Mopars and parts stash go to either Europe or Australia than to remain Stateside with somebody who would take them for granted.

Of course, if somebody here in the U.S. could love them as much I do, despite their four doors and/or manual trannys, that would be absolutely awesome!


K.


I agree,if it came to that its better they go to a loving home where they'll be taken care of and enjoyed.
My first Forward Look car was a 1957 Plymouth Savoy 4 door sedan with a six cylinder and two speed powerflite,nobody wanted it except me and I got it for $600 (not running).
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firedome
Posted 2010-02-26 4:21 PM (#211744 - in reply to #209538)
Subject: Re: Yet another goes to Sweden



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Location: NY & VT		It does seem that the Swedes, and Europeans in general, perhaps Aussies too, appreciate the 4 dr body styles much more than most hobbyists here who always have blinders on for any car that's not a vert or hardtop... just plain myopic and dumb, imo. On some cars the 4 dr is the best looking car in the line, and as a functioning car, they are undoubtedly superior.

I'm happy mine found a good home, and near the home of my own ancestors, Goteborg - which BTW in Swedish, is pronounced like Yoota-bury - not Goat-borg. Some also use the English: Gothenburg.


Edited by firedome 2010-02-26 4:28 PM
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