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Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | US Ebay in fertile mn.,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1957-plymouth-golden-fury_W0QQitemZ2...
this is a 57 plymouth fury Im just finishing up,, it doesnt have any miles on it yet,,, drivetrain has been run at a fast idle for 45 minutes. the interior is of origional fury cloth. as you can see the interior is done and ready, engine, transmission, brakes, body work all has been completely redone.. frame was removed from the body and sandblasted and repainted.. new exhaust, tires, and windshield are on the car,, all the steel chrome has been replated inside and out of the car.. origional carbuators, air cleaners, hubcaps, and bumper extentions are all there along with the 150 MPH speedometer,, it has the origional fury stamped engine and runs extremly quiet and smooth.. its up for auction now and ready for a new owner..
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Location: Royal Oak, MI | What's with the gold on the dash and on the speedo panel? |
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| Boris56 - 2009-12-15 5:09 PM
What's with the gold on the dash and on the speedo panel?
The fury didnt have a gold dash did it? I dont think I ever saw one like that. |
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Location: Blythewood, SC | Is that "Mopar Mel?"
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Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | 57plymouth - 2009-12-15 10:20 PM
Is that "Mopar Mel?"
Can anyone confirm it's his "work?"
Yep... Mopar Mel ... |
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Location: Big pimpin' | 59CRL - 2009-12-15 5:18 PM
Boris56 - 2009-12-15 5:09 PM
What's with the gold on the dash and on the speedo panel?
The fury didnt have a gold dash did it? I dont think I ever saw one like that.
No, I don't think that Gold look is correct, but then again, I'm no expert on Fury's...Every one I've seen had the gold DOTS on a silver background... |
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Location: DFW, TX | I think it's also the wrong color. '57s were white (Sand Dune White) while '58s were tan (Buckskin Beige). This car looks tan to me. Could be the light I suppose. Also, valence is car color and it has '59 wheelcovers, in addition to the gold pieces mentioned.
But it is probably a real Fury and '57s are my favorite of the bunch. I'd love to have it! |
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Location: Connecticut | Gotta love those 318 stickers on the air cleaners ! :rollseyes:
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Location: bishop, ca | I always enjoy looking at the fuel line arrangement, battery cables, and steering wheel finish, as being attention-to-detail
items on somebody's resto-work.
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Location: Farnborough. Hampshire. England. | Definitely Mopar Mel, you can tell by his spelling skills...  |
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Location: DFW, TX | d500neil - 2009-12-15 8:51 PM
I always enjoy looking at the fuel line arrangement, battery cables, and steering wheel finish, as being attention-to-detail
items on somebody's resto-work.
Did '57 Furys come with two red battery cables, and a plastic fuel filter?  |
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Location: Royal Oak, MI | 57burb - 2009-12-15 6:07 PM
I think it's also the wrong color. '57s were white (Sand Dune White) while '58s were tan (Buckskin Beige). This car looks tan to me. Could be the light I suppose. Also, valence is car color and it has '59 wheelcovers, in addition to the gold pieces mentioned.
But it is probably a real Fury and '57s are my favorite of the bunch. I'd love to have it!
Looks like Buckskin Beige to me too... the paint doesn't look light enough to be Sand Dune White. But I agree, it's probably a real Fury, even if it isn't "restored" exactly right. How much would it cost to correct the errors? |
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| There may be some detail issues... but it's a nice car. The wheel covers are correct 57 Fury pieces. They may look like '59 parts... but take a close look and you'll see the gold dimples. The lower grille was body color on the 57 Fury too.
Color looks like a match for sand dune white photographed under an overcast sky. It's supposed to look more beige than white -- and Sand Dune has that tell-tale yellow tint. Buckskin Beige for 58 is even darker than this -- and less yellow.
Only real issues I see are minor. The speedo face panel and lower dash trim should be silver with gold dots. The center of the steering wheel (where it says "power Steering") should be gold. The engine block should be silver. The 318 decals are ridiculous. And... Neil is also right about the fuel lines and battery cables.
It's also SCREAMING for wide whites.
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Location: DFW, TX | I stand corrected. I still think the color may be a little tannish, but I'll give Mel the benefit of the doubt.  I would definitely love to have it, and yes it needs a proper set of whitewalls to set it off. |
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Location: Skaneateles,NY(summer)/Port St.Lucie,FL(winter) | I notice that there are no shots of the under carriage. Be careful...be very careful. This is the infamous "Mopar Mel"...
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Location: Parts Unknown | Given the limited number of Furys and Fl convertibles that survive, I am always amazed by the seemingly "unlimited" supply ol' Mel has go through his hands. He was moving these cars just like he does today when I got into the hobby in a serious way around 1980. |
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Location: Royal Oak, MI | 345 DeSoto - 2009-12-16 9:47 AM
I notice that there are no shots of the under carriage. Be careful...be very careful. This is the infamous "Mopar Mel"...
As a former victim of ol' Mel when I was a naive young kid 20-plus years ago, I think I'd look elsewhere to buy a car... if anyone else has any negative experiences with him they'd care to relate, feel free to PM me... and likewise, if you feel you received fair treatment from him, too... just curious. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Boris, there may well be one or more threads already established on the "Venders" message board in Re: this car's
seller.
Are the car's door trim panels correctly reproduced?
Tony is definitely correct, when he mentions a person's careful observation of a restored car's undercarriage condition,
because it is there that you will discover a lot about the restorer's overall attention-to-detail and/or about the car's pre-
restoration condition.
Many-a-car (including mine, back in 1980, when I bought it sight-unseen) will have a nice-pretty-looking (rust/bondo
covered-up) body and paintwork, but a not-so-nice-condition undercarriage.....
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Location: Connecticut | Rare FL emblem in the rear seat notch is missing. Door panels don't look right. I would think that someone that could afford a car like this in '57 could also throw in for power brakes, which IMHO are necessary to stop this car. Also, I see no evidence that this is a real Fury.
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Location: hampton mn | Looks like a nice car for someone not worried about "correctness" depending on the reserve. |
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Location: Big pimpin' | I wonder if THIS one has the ellusive "X" frame under it as well.... |
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | "I would think that someone that could afford a car like this in '57 could also throw in for power brakes, which IMHO are necessary to stop this car." Not "Necessairly so" I have disc but non power on my 59, It is easy to stop and in fact Aivar drove it, and said, "Leave it alone the brakes are very good , as is" I also have the police brakes, which my 64 Dodge 426 came with. It was our daily driver for many years, Wife drove it about 30 miles each way to work from Yorba Linda to LA and never had any problem. Are all you "Right coasters" weak Kneed?
Anyway both cars stop plenty fast, I worry more bout the idiot stopping that is behind me, than either of my 2 Dodges stopping "in Time"
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Location: Connecticut | Gary - Your manual discs and 57 Ply drums are worlds apart. The 11x2" 57 Ply drums are too small for stopping the car. It was a real issue for me when I first got my 58 Ply, as it would take a lot of effort to get it to slow down. With the current 12" drum brakes + power assist, the car stops, no problem.
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Location: Lemoore CA | 1959Dodge - 2009-12-17 4:22 PM
"I would think that someone that could afford a car like this in '57 could also throw in for power brakes, which IMHO are necessary to stop this car." Not "Necessairly so" I have disc but non power on my 59, It is easy to stop and in fact Aivar drove it, and said, "Leave it alone the brakes are very good , as is" I also have the police brakes, which my 64 Dodge 426 came with. It was our daily driver for many years, Wife drove it about 30 miles each way to work from Yorba Linda to LA and never had any problem. Are all you "Right coasters" weak Kneed?
Anyway both cars stop plenty fast, I worry more bout the idiot stopping that is behind me, than either of my 2 Dodges stopping "in Time"
Gary I have never had any trouble(knock on wood) with any of the original equipment braking systems on any forward look car I have owned and driven daily, as long as the system was in good condition and properly maintained. I can recall at least 2 panic stops with my 58 Savoy since I have had it, and stopping was no problem. Of course it helps to drive with some common sense and leave a car length for every 10 mph of speed between you and what is in front of you(something almost no driver does nowadays). |
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Location: hampton mn | 5859 - 2009-12-17 9:26 PM
1959Dodge - 2009-12-17 4:22 PM
"I would think that someone that could afford a car like this in '57 could also throw in for power brakes, which IMHO are necessary to stop this car." Not "Necessairly so" I have disc but non power on my 59, It is easy to stop and in fact Aivar drove it, and said, "Leave it alone the brakes are very good , as is" I also have the police brakes, which my 64 Dodge 426 came with. It was our daily driver for many years, Wife drove it about 30 miles each way to work from Yorba Linda to LA and never had any problem. Are all you "Right coasters" weak Kneed?
Anyway both cars stop plenty fast, I worry more bout the idiot stopping that is behind me, than either of my 2 Dodges stopping "in Time"
Gary I have never had any trouble (knock on wood ) with any of the original equipment braking systems on any forward look car I have owned and driven daily, as long as the system was in good condition and properly maintained. I can recall at least 2 panic stops with my 58 Savoy since I have had it, and stopping was no problem. Of course it helps to drive with some common sense and leave a car length for every 10 mph of speed between you and what is in front of you (something almost no driver does nowadays ).
The only time Ive thought stock drums suck is when your driving over 100mph(not that Ive tryied  ) They slow down to 55 fast but nothing after that. Otherwise I think they work fine too.
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Location: Williams California | The only time I have had problems is driving down a long, twisting, mountain grade. The stock brakes tend to fade badly, but if you are using your downshift, it is no longer a problem. Also, as James stated, keeping several car lengths distance between you and the car in front will alow you to stop in time should the need arise.
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Location: bishop, ca | The stock brakes fade badly because of the chemical composition of their linings.
Modern linings have fade/water-resistance(?) ratings, and the best ratings to get, now, are the FF/FF rated linings.
The major aftermarket companies (NAPA/Kragens/Pep Boys/ETC) reportedly have FF/FF rated brake assemblies available.
OR: Firm Feel company has a subcontractor which can take 'donor' brake shoes and bond-on carbon-metallic linings
onto them. You just send your 'donor' shoe assemblies to F.F. for that service.
Anyone who is driving on his car's OEM brake shoes should replace them, NOW..... if only on General-Principle.
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Location: Bama | Looks like a nice car. The first thing I notice are the miss-matched tinted windows. Matter of fact, the tinted vent window is turned in the side shot. |
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Location: Bama | The grill is diving in the middle pretty hard too. |
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I promise not to pick on the guy again.
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http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/cto/1604269815.html |
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | Diesel45 - 2009-12-15 10:10 PM
Definitely Mopar Mel, you can tell by his spelling skills... :bleh:
And the "quality" and accuracy of his restorations~I remember when he used to offer his rare 1958 Fury convertibles for sale in old car trader...even though the fury model never was offered in a convertible. |
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Location: bishop, ca | ..just for documentation purps: he was asking for a $35K opening bid, with no-bids thereon, but
with a Buy-It-Now price of $49K, on the most recent Ebay offering.
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Location: new york | All I can say is how can you ask 49k for a car and you dont spend $500 on a set of bias ply white walls!?!? HAPPY MOTORING! Victor.. |
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Mels Restored 1957 Plymouth Golden Fury in MN
