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Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | By nature, kids are sh!ts. I was, and like Duke says, if you say you weren't, you are lying ! That said, it is up to parents to instill values and etiquette into them little rugrats and turn them into responsible adults. Herein lies the problem. *********************** My two youngest stepkids have a bio-Dad that is a total slacker. Still thinks he's gonna be a rock-n-roll star at age 50, keeps a bong on his coffee table, .... nice enough guy, but no poster child for ambition or morality. By contrast, el Stepdad uncorks a load of whoopass on the little buggers when one got caught shoplifting, and by the very nature of taking the easy road as kids will do, they tend to favor the bio-Dad and his go-nowhere life because it is easier not to care. I may never hear from either again. Afterall, the dream of stardom with no real work is a popular American attitude these days (and runs in the family). Such is life. They may someday wake up and realize the Grumpy Old Man was right and get their sh!t together ? Or not ? They are adults now and get to make their own decisions. You only have control for so long, but as long as they are your responsibility ....... | ||
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Expert Posts: 3891 Location: Northen Virginia | jsrail How can you say that? Do you really own a FL car or are you just a blogger? How about the owner hitting you when you kid does a stunt? That will be all right? Some children are perfectly knowledge about cars, and they stay away from it, the difference? PARENTS | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I think Jay's point is that his kid IS involved in the old cars and has a good understanding of the "you no toucha my car" rule. We need to take a step back and see the bigger picture here. There are those who respect others' stuff, and then there are the wild-eyed crazies that just go all woggly whenever and wherever they please. We are talking apples and oranges, to use an old saying. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6203 Location: Big pimpin' | I will confess, I took all FOUR (4) of my step kids to the cruise night cause they wanted to see where Chaney goes every Sat. night...They were acting up and gonna get ME into trouble so off they went and they never returned until they were around 13 Y/O...They were around 6-9 then...TOO young to be at a cruise night/Car show IMHO...It's funny, now that My boy (16 Y/O) has his own car, suddenly, it isn't so funny to run up and see someone touching HIS sh*t....I told him along with all the other new comers to this hobby, You WILL become an azz at Car Shows and cruise nights...Because it is YOUR sh*t that's getting pawed and malled out there..YOUR hard work, time, and money...Changed everything.... Edited by dukeboy 2010-03-23 8:01 PM | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 967 Location: Canada | It's a car "show" If your ride's that important, put a f**king rope around it. Last car show I was at an 80 yr old man came up, gleam in his eye. he said 413 in that? I said "yup".(While having a Beer at the back bumper with some friends) How's it run? He said. I said fire it up. he jumps in and does. Huge smile on his face...thanked me and left. 40 min's later.......3 other old guys (I'm 48) show up and say 413 in that? ( I say fire it up) Made a lot of friends that day.........If you don't want people to touch it....leave it in the trailer........... Edited by crvsir 2010-03-23 8:39 PM | ||
dukeboy |
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Expert Posts: 2679 | crvsir - 2010-03-23 8:37 PM It's a car "show" If your ride's that important, put a f**king rope around it. Last car show I was at an 80 yr old man came up, gleam in his eye. he said 413 in that? I said "yup".(While having a Beer at the back bumper with some friends) How's it run? He said. I said fire it up. he jumps in and does. Huge smile on his face...thanked me and left. 40 min's later.......3 other old guys (I'm 48) show up and say 413 in that? ( I say fire it up) Made a lot of friends that day.........If you don't want people to touch it....leave it in the trailer........... Good point. When you can bring a smile to some persons face they can touch the car, even sit in it and start it like you did. Thats what it is all about is seeing the peoples reaction to your car. But you still have to watch the wild kids around your car | ||
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Expert Posts: 3588 Location: Plymouth Spaceport | That's right...it's a car SHOW...not a car touch. What's so hard about showing a little respect for someone elses property? What about the a**holes who lean on or sit on someone car when they aren't at a car show but out parked somewhere? Should we not drive our cars too? We shouldn't have to bend over for the degenerates with no respect or consideration. As others have stated,we are witnessing the result of apathy and poor parenting. Edited by 1960DesotoAdventurer 2010-03-24 9:15 AM | ||
crvsir |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 967 Location: Canada | I reserve that atittude for wives........ 1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-03-24 10:11 AM That's right...it's a car SHOW...not a car touch. What's so hard about showing a little respect for someone elses property? What about the a**holes who lean on or sit on someone car when they aren't at a car show but out parked somewhere? Should we not drive our cars too? We shouldn't have to bend over for the degenerates with no respect or consideration. As others have stated,we are witnessing the result of apathy and poor parenting. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 496 | crvsir, I agree. Touch my car all you want. Touch my wife and we'll have a problem. This thread scares me. What is going to happen to our hobby if kids at car shows are accosted by a bunch of grumpy old men? Who will buy our cars when we are too old to drive -- if we turn these kids off at the precise time they are supposed to be catching the "car bug!?" I hosted a show a few years ago that let the kids judge the cars. The owners were asked to offer rides in their cars to the kids. It was a huge success -- because the kids had a positive experience around old cars. The car owners all felt good about showing off their cars and inspiring a new generation of car collectors. I was born into the hobby and I have learned a lot in my 42 years. At age 3 I used a piece of sandpaper to "polish" my dad's black '31 Chrysler CD-8 roadster. It buffed out just fine and I learned a great lesson and have a story to tell. I still have my first car. I am buying a FL car next week to use as a father/sons project -- to get them involved in the hobby. For all of you who think that kids are the scourge of the hobby... I have to disagree. I think they are the future of car collecting. I've said it before and I'll say it again... if you don't want anything to happen to your car, leave in locked in the garage... and hope that the roof doesn't collapse. Aaron | ||
dukeboy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6203 Location: Big pimpin' | Somehow, I gotta feeling you'll feel different when some little punk kid comes up and gets in your ride and begins to "Enjoy" it...What's next? Let the little bastid take it round the block?...I say Respect is earned, not given...You want to sit in my ride, even start it up, you better have some respect for it......Grumpy old men wouldn't be a problem if the Younger old men would keep the problem people at home in the garage... Edited by dukeboy 2010-03-24 12:59 PM | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 496 | Just so you know... Keeping the "problem people" (kids) in the garage is considered child abuse in Los Angeles County -- and I'm sure the laws are similar across the country. As for the "punk kid." He probably wouldn't feel like a "punk" if you gave him an ounce of respect and offered to show him your car - after you carefully explain the "no touching" rule. Respect is a two way street. Just look at the way you refer to kids (as "bastids, little $#!ts, punks"). How is that supposed to earn their respect - or anyone's? Aaron | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7809 Location: Williams California | C-300 - 2010-03-24 9:32 AM crvsir, I agree. Touch my car all you want. Touch my wife and we'll have a problem. This thread scares me. What is going to happen to our hobby if kids at car shows are accosted by a bunch of grumpy old men? Who will buy our cars when we are too old to drive -- if we turn these kids off at the precise time they are supposed to be catching the "car bug!?" I hosted a show a few years ago that let the kids judge the cars. The owners were asked to offer rides in their cars to the kids. It was a huge success -- because the kids had a positive experience around old cars. The car owners all felt good about showing off their cars and inspiring a new generation of car collectors. I was born into the hobby and I have learned a lot in my 42 years. At age 3 I used a piece of sandpaper to "polish" my dad's black '31 Chrysler CD-8 roadster. It buffed out just fine and I learned a great lesson and have a story to tell. I still have my first car. I am buying a FL car next week to use as a father/sons project -- to get them involved in the hobby. For all of you who think that kids are the scourge of the hobby... I have to disagree. I think they are the future of car collecting. I've said it before and I'll say it again... if you don't want anything to happen to your car, leave in locked in the garage... and hope that the roof doesn't collapse. Aaron Very well put, Aaron, I concur. ---John | ||
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Veteran Posts: 160 Location: Long Island | I don't have too much trouble at shows but taking the cars out can be trying.. I was out at the beach with my 1961 Fury (21K) orig miles.. we got out to watch the surf and while I was only about 25 feet from the car when two young "ladies" rode up and decided that my car would make a perfect bicycle rack and the leaned 2 bikes against the car. Before I could even tell them to remove the bikes both bikes fell over sliding down the side of my front fender and door. I don't remember exactly what I said but I remember they didn't take it very seriously and one gal said to the other,, "I told you people were snobby around here!" Another time I was up Cape Cod with my 59 Coupe de Ville. I came out to the B&B parking lot were I was staying to find two "models" posed on the hood of my car and a guy taking pictures.. Telling him to get them off the car he calmed explained,, "I'm a PROFFESSIONAL photographer!" He was quite indignant that I wouldnt let him complete his "photo shoot". I won't even sit by my cars at a car show. The people can drive you nuts. I was at a local cruise night with my 51 Nash Rambler Convertible. A young guy walks up looks at the front of my car and I guess he could even read cause he says in the nastiest rudes tone possible.. "A NASH??? What the "F" is a Nash? | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3891 Location: Northen Virginia | Bantam38 what you said may be the key of the conversation, if is an original survivor i don’t think that any one in here would smile when you 50 year old paint survived all this time just to be scratched by 2 f**king bicycles or your original upholstery stained by a drunk beer a**hole. Go to the Smithsonian museums and try to touch something see if you can, they are kids friendly and it is a section for them where they can play with stuff, unfortunately most of them are just simple destroyed. I personally saw theses little punks and their parents in action. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 320 Location: lakeview, ny 14085 | last summer i was at our local cruise night at the fairgrounds. nice deal they get over 300 cars and its a nice setting. anyway guy shows up with his new camaro. now i kind of like these new retrolook cars (challengers, mustangs, camaros) but i don't see how they belong at cruise nights with all the vintage stuff. well this guy parks next to my 47 chev and now i got people leanin on my car to take a picture of this guys "new car". i don't care if you sit IN my car, i do, but really don't friggin sit ON it. and especially to get a better look a a new car. now thats rude. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | You know I went to the WPC Museum in Auburn Hills about 8 years ago, what an incredible place. However, the cars are definitely DO NOT TOUCH. In the basement display area one of the cars had a near flat tire. I bent down and put my finger to the tire and showed my wife. Within 30 seconds there was a security guard on my case about not touching the car ! | ||
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Expert Posts: 1590 Location: Scottsdale, AZ | I wish someone would put this thread to rest. I am getting sick of hearing how it's 99% all kids ruining their cars, car shows, and the car hobby and world peace all in one swoop! You are a bunch of old men who are angry at something more in your lives than kids at car shows. Get your own lives straightened out before you go blaming all your woes on every kid on the planet. I bet you beat the sh&t out of your kids for blowing their nose in the wrong direction too. You are ruining the sport yourselves with your piss pour attitude. Their won't be anyone interested in your pieces of gold when your dead, there will be only "tuners" left in the car hobby, to me, that's real selfish. Go get a prescription to Viagra, then maybe you won't hate the world so much. You are the ones ruining the sport for my son. Gee, thanks for nothing. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 398 Location: Watertown South Dakota | Worst one I have seen....A friend had a NICE 39 Ford coupe and finds some guy sitting in it smoking a big cigar. When told to get the h..l out,, he had no idea what the owner was upset about... | ||
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Expert Posts: 1728 Location: Fleetwood, Pa | My parents taught me growing up "if it's not yours, don't touch it" and "if it's not your property then stay off it" and I seemed to have had a great childhood and I'm even "into" classic cars. You don't have to treat a car like a playground fixture in order to be interested in it. There's no harm in asking the owner if he would let you sit in it. I'm sure most of us would allow that or even be flattered that a young lad would want to do so. What pisses me off is the fact that some assume it's a friggin used car lot and you can do anything you darn well please to it just cause it's there. "You can take the animal out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the animal". Unfortunately most of the kids in this country don't go home to a family with two parents anymore, or so it seems. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6203 Location: Big pimpin' | sidesho_bob1961 - 2010-03-25 11:47 AM My parents taught me growing up "if it's not yours, don't touch it" and "if it's not your property then stay off it" and I seemed to have had a great childhood and I'm even "into" classic cars. You don't have to treat a car like a playground fixture in order to be interested in it. There's no harm in asking the owner if he would let you sit in it. I'm sure most of us would allow that or even be flattered that a young lad would want to do so. What pisses me off is the fact that some assume it's a friggin used car lot and you can do anything you darn well please to it just cause it's there. "You can take the animal out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the animal". Unfortunately most of the kids in this country don't go home to a family with two parents anymore, or so it seems. AMEN! This was all I was trying to say..If you ASK me, you would prolly be AMAZED at how much I WOULD let you get by with..I even stuck one little boy who was VERY Shy, through the window of the General Lee...Made his day...BUT! He didn't come up to the car acting like it was HIS.....The whole thing changes when people ASK, but this thread wasn't started looking to speak about the ones that HAVE RESPECT, it's about the ones THAT DON'T...I know ya'll don't wanna hear about the bad people, but it has happened to all of us...There are just as many Good people at car shows as there are bad...Maybe we should start a thread dedicated to the "Good" things we've seen people do at car shows and ya'll wouldn't get yer panties in a twist.... | ||
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Member Posts: 20 Location: SW PA | I believe this whole thing boils down to respecting someone's property & good parenting. Would these people take their kids into an antiques show or store & let them go wild or would they as adults do the same? I seriously doubt it because they would be held responsible for the damages etc. Car shows in my opinion are like antique shows or stores. You look, & you ask if you can touch. Edited by pachristine241 2010-03-25 1:17 PM | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3891 Location: Northen Virginia | sorry for the quality just taped yesterday with my camera from the TV | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 343 Location: Route 66, Sullivan MO | We've never had cars with top finish, etc, so have always been pretty lenient with the grandkids to climb in and out, etc. But we teach them from day 1 that it is OK with our cars BUT nobody elses. For all the bad ones out there, there are probably just as many good kids, but since they knew not to get too close you don't notice them. I think the best story I have is - At a car show there was a guy who just yelled at a kid about 10 who had put his hands on the window frame to look inside, just as we walked up. Caleb was about 4 and he got about a foot from the car and the guy was just ready to say something when Caleb said to him. "Sir, you have a nice car, will you open the door so I can see inside?". I thought the guy was gonna faint! But after he regained his composure, he said "sure" and opened the door. He then went on and on about how nice it was and I overheard him tell somebody else the story. So, yes, it is possible to teach even a young child appropriate behavior, it's like most people have said - parents and grandparents just don't do it!. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 582 Location: Omaha, NE | Okay fellas, time to let someone under 25 have his say. I've yet to own a classic car myself, but I imagine "You are my Special Angel" by Johnny Maestro and the Crests about covers the feelings it brings. Therefore I can imagine the horrific situations that can develop when taking your beaut around town. Nevertheless, Having been to a couple summer time car shows myself, I've done my best to keep at least two feet of space between a car and myself, at most peering through the driver's side window in order to see the dash and the steering wheel. I also try and have at least one question for the owner if He/She's nearby. Usually, my quaffed hair, bowling shirt and cuffed jeans sets them at ease, but more than once I've felt the guy's eyes pierce my flesh like fishooks as I took in his ride. Waiting for me to take one step too close, Ask a stupid question. TOUCH it... It's incredibly uncomfortable knowing You're under scrutiny when you're here to have fun. Edited by OldiesNut 2010-03-25 7:39 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 2679 | OldiesNut - 2010-03-25 6:51 PM Okay fellas, time to let someone under 25 have his say. I've yet to own a classic car myself, but I imagine "You are my Special Angel" by Johnny Maestro and the Crests about covers the feelings it brings. Therefore I can imagine the horrific situations that can develop when taking your beaut around town. Nevertheless, Having been to a couple summer time car shows myself, I've done my best to keep at least two feet of space between a car and myself, at most peering through the driver's side window in order to see the dash and the steering wheel. I also try and have at leat one question for the owner if He/She's nearby. Usually, my quaffed hair, bowling shirt and cuffed jeans sets them at ease, but more than once I've felt the guy's eyes pierce my flesh like fishooks as I took in his ride. Waiting for me to take one step too close, Ask a stupid question. TOUCH it... It's incredibly uncomfortable knowing You're under scrutiny when you're here to have fun. It isnt that intense, not for me I dont stare everyone down who comes by my car, maybe im used to it, but I can spot a wild kid when I see him and that gets all my attention.... but usually since I have the food tray with old time food on it that gets their attention and they just stare at the food, dont care about the car. Then they ask me if the food is real, and it is.... as far as touching the car goes my wife even isnt allowed to touch the car, especially after I wax her up Edited by 59CRL 2010-03-25 7:26 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | i personally see more disrespectful adults at car shows than kids... we are not kid hating people, nor are we old grumps that are selfish and think we are better than everyone else... we simply love our cars, and what is the crime in that? in a day and age that most people care about nothing but themselves and everything is disposable... i think the people here who are getting defensive about what other people are saying obviously have not had a massively bad experience with their car. no matter who you are, no matter what your car is or the condition, and no matter what it is worth if something happening to your car and it does not break your heart well then in my opinion you probably do not deserve to have the car... if you dont care what happens to it then sell it to someone who does... sentimental value is more valuable than monetary value... adriana | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 354 Location: Louisiana | 59CRL - 2010-03-25 6:25 PM .... my wife even isnt allowed to touch the car, especially after I wax her up :laugh: Not touching this with a ten foot pole. Edited by Devioussquirrel 2010-03-25 10:00 PM | ||
OldiesNut |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 582 Location: Omaha, NE | A for effort 59CRL! The closest i've come to that is seeing a '48 Pontiac "Tin Indian" with a try of PLASTIC retro food out the window! Doesn't your Ice cream float start to melt? :D Adriana, I agree wholeheartedly: Sentimental value trumps Monetary value every time, at least for me. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1590 Location: Scottsdale, AZ | My apologies for my outburst folks. I have worked with abused children shelters for many years and have seen some kids beat often because they were not good little wooden soldiers. Too often I hear adults make cracks about smacking their kids around. I personally do not find any of that kind of talk funny or permissible in a supposed good society. Too often I hear how our children are the woe of society, when it's us adults, my generation and those before me, that have done more harm to the world's societies and this planet than any young ones could ever imagine. As adults, it's easy for us to always blame the kids, it takes the responsibility from us. When you are in pain 24/7 and an issue hits you this deeply, sometimes one overreacts and says things maybe he shouldn't have. My wife reminds me of this often. I still stand on my position of kids and car shows, but ask that adults think a bit more before making kids, especially the pre-teens, our scapegoats. And think a bit more before joking about beating children, because many adults don't just joke about it, they practice it. I, for one, lived it. Jay | ||
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Member Posts: 40 Location: Brisbane , Queensland , Australia | I have entered cars in many car shows and have never had any kid damage my car except for my grandson when he was 4 years old and lost control of his pedal car and rammed a door of my 1960 Dodge Phoenix during it's 3rd yoer of restoration . I love this kid more than my own life but I went ballistic . Didn't touch him but verbally abused him and took his pedal car off him .My big problem at shows is the bloke who says "Nice Paint job mate "as he rubs his hands along your dusty fender or hood .The first scratch I got on my car was put on accidentally by a hells angel type bikie who was wearing a spiked wristband like a dogs collar . I know I was guttless but I didn't feel like being monstered by this evil looking dude and the scratch remains on the car to this day 19 years on .I often look with fear at the good ol boy who is about to lean over the front fender to look at the engine wearing a large metal belt buckle .The last car I showed was black and I was paranoid about any scratching on it . I used to keep it under a babies bunny rug and never washed it in detergent . Whilst I was protective, the guy who painted it was more so and he used to sit with the car whilst I roamed around the grounds. My cars now aren't show quality and are regularly used so I enjoy them more . | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | Jay .... I tried the Viagra I-V drip and I still hate the world. No help at all ! Maybe it is my A.D.D., but hanging around at car shows is as dull as watching paint dry. Walking around looking at other's car can be interesting for a spell (if they aren't 99% Chevelles), but to sit around with your own car and watch passersby paw at it ..... nah, ..... it just ain't for me. Go drive the $#@! thing and every stop you make is a "car show", but with better results. You meet "real" people who tell you about their neighbor who still has one, not some re-hashed car guy story. By the time folks get into car show mode, they are dulled off to it. It is nothing like the excitement of some unsuspecting person seeing a really odd car like ours for the first time. Besides, driving them down the backroads of this country is WAY more fun that just sitting there waiting for that next guy with the monster belt buckle to lean on the car. I have heard "Is this a Hemi?" 241,954 times too many already. No interest in sitting in a parking lot racking that number higher. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6203 Location: Big pimpin' | Bottom line?? In THIS Economy, right now, Who can afford to go after the POS that just F**ked up his car leagally? What I hate is the people (I won't say kids here, even though the PARENTS are the dead beats OF these VERY kids that destroy something with an oopsy), That CLEARLY cannot afford to even buy a lug nut off some of these cars, yet, when something happens, the FIRST thing they say is "Wasn't my fault", or "It wasn't MY CHILD"...Then, comes the "PROOVE IT!" scenario.....If people had the means to repair a car their child, or Themselves screwed up, or at least understood they are RESPONSIBLE, this thread would be senseless....Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way in my world... Edited by dukeboy 2010-03-26 12:24 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 3891 Location: Northen Virginia | Went to only one car show in my life, won a 3rd place, just the fact of having my car with original paint and dashboard plastic in 110 degree sun is something to think about it. Look at the date, never went again (show1.jpg) (show2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- show1.jpg (159KB - 75 downloads) show2.jpg (153KB - 74 downloads) | ||
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Account deactivated by owner's request Location: On this barrel | hemidenis - 2010-03-26 2:47 PM Went to only one car show in my life, won a 3rd place, just the fact of having my car with original paint and dashboard plastic in 110 degree sun is something to think about it. Look at the date, never went again How could that picture be taken at 11PM? :laugh: If you haven't already ... could you maybe (in another post) describe the steps you took to restore the original paint to look that nice? I also have the original paint that I haven't done anything with because I don't want to mess it up. Last year I took my 3 young sons to a car show. I told them ahead of time, "don't touch the cars". They didn't and no problems. They weren't too interested in the cars ... they liked the hotdog stand and the playground more. Edited by 56royaldodge 2010-03-26 5:39 PM | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3891 Location: Northen Virginia | Yes it was a new camera i remember was kindda 4 setting of printed time; I definitely missed the am/pm detail. Well regarding to the paint, when i got the car i cleaned with 3M 39002 rubbing compound (was very dirty), after that i did a final buff with 06066 final glaze all by hand. I keep using the 06066 regularly about 2 times a year for protection. Cant do much than that, paint is very thin in some edges. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 461 Location: Brooklyn NY | Just a funny thing I saw at a Cruise Night last year in Belmore,Long Island.....This guy comes in with a mean Roadster, Blown BBC and parks....10 seconds later he has a circle around his car and a guy touches his exhaust header. Pretty scalded to say the least, the burned idiot then starts yelling at the guy for leaving "Hot engine components exposed where people could get burn and he'll be lucky if he doesn't sue him" The car owner walked over and yelled at him "How am I gonna get that skin off my Ceramic Coating?" Everyone laughed big time and the burned dude walked away embarassed ...the end............Ralph from Brooklyn | ||
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