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Chrome58
Posted 2011-12-04 6:24 AM (#298423)
Subject: How on earth do you fill that thing ?



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Location: Belgium, 40 miles south of Brussels		Hi,

I just assembled the master cylinder on the firewall of my '58 Plymouth.
It sits just below the power brake booster, the latter (almost) completely barring the way to the master cylinder cover.

How on earth do you fill the master cylinder when you need to ?


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lonesome mopar
Posted 2011-12-04 8:55 AM (#298425 - in reply to #298423)
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Location: Milano, Italy		:-)) Down here, in the italian motor wilderness, I welded a small pipe to the cover of the master cilinder, attached a hose to it, and run it to a modern (plastic,) container with the warning light cap fitting.
Errrr....It was a Fiat Panda part :-D

The new brake fluid container sits beside the brake booster so that you can easily fill it, and its cap is connected to a huge orange warning light under my ****pit that blinks if/when the fluid level is low.

I know the purists are shivering.... but that orange light saved me from troubles two times in the past....
:-))

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wizard
Posted 2011-12-04 10:29 AM (#298430 - in reply to #298423)
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island		You shouldn't complain Vincent, you (and me) have the bellows brake servo - the oval steel type is more "interesting" to fill up. You could try to apply the brakes with a something that holds the pedal down, that could help with the bellows (but as it is now, you've got no engine to start up?!). I usually use a plastic syringe with a short tube attached to it - just draw up some fluid in the syringe and fill up the MC with it..

Oh, and now, with everything so nice, you might want to use syntethic brake fluid - that will be totally ok and it will not mess up your paint.

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finsruskw
Posted 2011-12-04 11:30 AM (#298446 - in reply to #298430)
Subject: Re: How on earth do you fill that thing ?


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Location: Eastern Iowa		Here we go with the synthetic brake fluid thing again!!

Best bet is to corner a 6 or 7 year old and teach em how to manipulate a 7/16
combination wrench!! ......While laying on your fender.....
You may want to lay somethng over the battery as Mom would probably be on your case
when she washes his pants and they come out of the dryer full of holes?!!

No.....Wait.....

Maybe you could get in on the bottom floor here of the current fashion craze
among the younger set here. Except these holes would be EARNED (gasp) and not bought at the
local fashion botique!!

Dave S.

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b5rt
Posted 2011-12-04 2:55 PM (#298476 - in reply to #298423)
Subject: Re: How on earth do you fill that thing ?



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Location: central Illinois		I've got an old plastic bottle (brake fluid originally came in it but that doesn't matter) with a long, slim spout. A similar bottle to use would be one that HEAT comes in. Refill it as needed, works great every time.

The hardest part is getting the master cylinder cap with the bolt off and on. Patience and hands that aren't the size of a baseball glove help.

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60 dart
Posted 2011-12-04 3:44 PM (#298491 - in reply to #298423)
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA		get a small plastic funnel and force on a piece of clear tubing to the small end to see the flow . simple , easy and cheap , used this method for a hundered years , well it seams like a hundred ! -----------------------------------------------------later
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My57Saratoga
Posted 2011-12-04 5:31 PM (#298502 - in reply to #298423)
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Location: Kingston Springs , TN		Here's an innovative solution:

http://www.simplexco.com/auto/dipstick/dipstick.html

Mike
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Phatton
Posted 2011-12-04 5:46 PM (#298504 - in reply to #298423)
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Location: Camptown PA		I just use a piece of cardboard about a foot long. Fold it in half. stick one corner over the master cylinder from the engine side and pour the fluid in.
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ronbo97
Posted 2011-12-04 5:47 PM (#298505 - in reply to #298502)
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I use a funnel with a flexible hose attached to it. You can find them at Pep Boys, etc., for a few bucks.

Ron

 

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wallydodge
Posted 2011-12-04 8:30 PM (#298532 - in reply to #298505)
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Location: Brooklyn, NY		I honestly never had a problem with my old master and the bellows on top. used a little offset wrench and felt around to get it on and off, took some time but it worked, and my hands are gigantic. for filling, i used to use a turkey baster, worked great..
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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2011-12-04 9:03 PM (#298537 - in reply to #298532)
Subject: Re: How on earth do you fill that thing ?



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Location: Plymouth Spaceport		I use a turkey baster to fill it too,although the the gravy did taste a little funny this year.
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60 dart
Posted 2011-12-04 11:46 PM (#298570 - in reply to #298423)
Subject: Re: How on earth do you fill that thing ?



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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA		that dipstick trick has been around for quite a long time and discussed here ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,somewhere ! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------later
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Chrome58
Posted 2011-12-05 3:37 AM (#298578 - in reply to #298423)
Subject: Re: How on earth do you fill that thing ?



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Location: Belgium, 40 miles south of Brussels		Thanks everyone for your replies and suggestions.
I want to retain the stock look, so no dipstick or outside reservoir (a solution used by some) for me.

However, I'll retain the "turkey baster" solution as the best one

Thanks !


Edited by Chrome58 2011-12-05 3:38 AM
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uncltank
Posted 2011-12-06 10:23 AM (#298761 - in reply to #298423)
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Location: Kennewick Wa		I went to a local Vet and got a large syringe (no needle) works the same as the turkey baster, just no drips.
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Chrome58
Posted 2011-12-06 10:41 AM (#298763 - in reply to #298423)
Subject: Re: How on earth do you fill that thing ?



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Location: Belgium, 40 miles south of Brussels		Well, after thinking a little more and talking about it, one thing is missing : safety !
There is no way to check the brake fluid level, and one cannot see if there's a leak somewhere.

So I guess I'll depart from the stock look, and I will adapt an external clear reservoir so the brake fluid level is visible at all times.

Safety is more important.

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58-Savoy
Posted 2011-12-06 2:30 PM (#298805 - in reply to #298423)
Subject: RE: How on earth do you fill that thing ?



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Location: Las Vegas, NV		I ran into this same problem after installing a dual reservoir master cylinder for my AAJ disc setup. My solution was to use a flexible attachment made for oil bottles. I think I got it at Pep Boys, it was a display sitting on the counter. Little plastic attachments that kind of looks like a jumbo flexible straw. 99 cents each. It was a little tricky to make sure to not to overfill, but with good light you can see the fluid level if you pour slowly.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-12-08 4:22 AM (#299005 - in reply to #298805)
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Location: Parts Unknown		There is a long thread about this in here somewhere. Gotta be 4 or more years back.

I did some careful fitting, and soldered 1/2" copper pipe and fittings to come out from
under the booster and turn upright to a 2.5"-to-1/2" reducer (essentially a copper funnel)
and then soldered brass legs on it that grip the valve cover studs to hold the entire
contraption at a soft slope to avoid a splash. The bottom end has some "cleat" type
grips made out of the same brass rod that hold the edge of the master cylinder.

It took a fair amount of fiddling around to really get it right, but once perfected, works
like a charm and makes it possible to do bleed-outs without any fuss at all. You can have
your face right down in there to see how it is filling while adding more at the top.

Easy-Squeezy !

I am fairly sure I posted photos of it in that above mentioned thread.
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d500neil
Posted 2011-12-08 3:33 PM (#299037 - in reply to #299005)
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Location: bishop, ca		On servicing that 7/16" retaining bolt, it really helps to have/use a closed-box-head wrench, rather than an open-
faced one.

The open-end will tend to slip off of the nut, as you try to turn it.




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elrayox
Posted 2011-12-11 12:02 AM (#299336 - in reply to #298423)
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Location: Albuquerque, NM		Just like for bleeding hydraulic brakes on a motorcycle or mtn bike - turkey baster is good, but better is a large surgical syringe with a hose on the end. It'll become something you'll keep in a plastic bag in your toolbox
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di_ch_NY56
Posted 2012-02-24 1:44 PM (#309458 - in reply to #298423)
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Location: ZH, Switzerland		I have a set of funnels. And I bought a yard of gas and oil resistant clear/transparent PVC hose. I plan to fill the brake fluid very slowly (or in short amounts). But I guess some of my preowner didn't care as much (justifying based to the surface of the main brake cylinder).

Happy Motoring!

Dieter


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