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1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL
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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2011-07-18 3:23 PM (#281108 - in reply to #281107)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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d500neil
Posted 2011-07-18 3:39 PM (#281116 - in reply to #280408)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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Location: bishop, ca		..No, not casting numbers; actual Part Numbers, reflecting different internal jetting and settings, etc.

Externally identical items, but internally, differently set up.




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furyjim
Posted 2011-07-31 10:05 PM (#283006 - in reply to #280408)
Subject: RE: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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nobody mentioned some of the more important things pertaining to the integrity of this car.... look at the trunk photos.... where are the body mounts!!!!!????? you can see the trunk is made from sectionally welded panels as patches [what you can see where no matting is present- they forgot to drill holes for, make the structure of, or covered over the rearmost body mounts. look at the side pic- i say poorly installed JC whitney rocker caps. as for the seat inserts, it may have been plant-related, a nice original 'very i looked at 10 yra ago had the same seat insert material [with tinsel] as the 58 sport suburban i just did, and 3 58 belv's of mine. ironically, i have the green dogbone inserts in a 2dr wagon- the seat covers [upholstery] carrier mopar tags, was told by prev owner they were NOS items that he bought and had installed by his upholsterer....
there were WCFBs on the 58 318 with ovals, i recently learned thought 58 output is still 290hp, the cam specs are different than 57, thus jetting/metering is slightly different for the adjusted powerband that yields the same horsepower, at lower RPM... i thought both 57 and 8 318 dual v800's had the .405" lift cams.... non-fury dual quad engine in 58= golden commando 350. if this was any variant of a fact dual quad car, it would have a 150 speedo. the seats all have sweat stains or weather stains on the inserts as well, door panels are incorrect, warped, and basically suck... sad someone paid so much at auction, but it the ones with deep pockets that pay for shiny things, with no knowledge of the vehicle itself....

may be hard to see... but here's the green dogbone in a 2dr wagon, the frt seat would be the same as a 'vert or hardtop [folding] but wagon rear seats are unique...

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furyjim
Posted 2011-07-31 10:10 PM (#283007 - in reply to #280408)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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funny- looking at the pic now i think the samples posted earlier tricked me! this has more of a shape like S's... but the same rubbery shape-on-fabric material though- seems more waterproof like you'd want for a 'vert just in case!.... too many cars to remember the little details!
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wallydodge
Posted 2011-07-31 11:32 PM (#283019 - in reply to #280408)
Subject: RE: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL


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christine-lover
Posted 2011-08-01 8:42 PM (#283103 - in reply to #283019)
Subject: RE: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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wallydodge - 2011-07-31 11:32 PM

How come no one noticed the arm rests (door pulls) are on the opposite doors?


No, that's the correct way.
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christine-lover
Posted 2011-08-01 8:45 PM (#283104 - in reply to #283007)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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furyjim - 2011-07-31 10:10 PM

funny- looking at the pic now i think the samples posted earlier tricked me! this has more of a shape like S's... but the same rubbery shape-on-fabric material though- seems more waterproof like you'd want for a 'vert just in case!.... too many cars to remember the little details!


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the kind you have there is 57 Plymouth Conv inserts.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2011-10-06 11:18 AM (#291547 - in reply to #283104)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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alumcanTandThd
Posted 2011-10-07 10:27 AM (#291708 - in reply to #280408)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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slim W
October 5, 2011 at 9:16 pm 1 or Flag comment
Over at forwarlook.net, this seller has been getting raked over the coals for his restorations that look to be done for the novice buyer and not someone looking for a well restored and original car. those guys forget that not all buyers care about originality and correctness.
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alumcanTandThd
Posted 2011-10-07 10:28 AM (#291709 - in reply to #280408)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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October 6, 2011 at 6:04 am 6 or Flag comment
I live in Boca Raton and know this dealer. All am going to say is BUYER BEWARE.
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d500neil
Posted 2011-10-07 5:53 PM (#291755 - in reply to #280408)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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Location: bishop, ca		"....not all [convertible] buyers care about originality and correctness"

Now THAT'S how rich I want to be!!!





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alumcanTandThd
Posted 2011-10-07 10:49 PM (#291811 - in reply to #280408)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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Location: Dellslow, West ("By God") Virginia !		,,,,,,,,,,,OR,,, if the dadburn vehicles are PRICED aacordingly! Geeze!

Premium pricing, for ovious amaturish products, is why these vehicles/seller/descriptions, are getting 'raked over the coals'!
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2011-10-08 1:41 PM (#291867 - in reply to #291811)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible V800 in FL



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Location: The Mile High City		That certainly seems to be the case with this seller! With most of these dealers, you can expect a certain bit of puffery in the description, but perhaps this dealer takes it a bit too far - or so their building reputation indicates.
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