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GregCon
Posted 2012-02-09 7:21 AM (#307043)
Subject: Swivel seat in a '58?



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I think in 1958 Chryslers swivel seats were not an option - right or wrong?

Has anyone used a '59 swivel seat in a 58? I'm curious if they fit or not given the change in body construction from frame to unibody.
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StillOutThere
Posted 2012-02-09 7:26 AM (#307045 - in reply to #307043)
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'59 was the first year for the swivel seat option. They are a bolt-in to a '57 or '58 flat floor car. They will not bolt in to a '57 power seat originally optioned car because in '57 they created couple inch deep recesses in the floor for the movement of the seat tracks. That mechanism was changed for '58 and as I recall all '58s are flat floors where the seats mount allowing use of the '59 seat mounting.
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FIN_NV
Posted 2012-02-09 7:47 AM (#307048 - in reply to #307043)
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I know that FIN ME AkA Rosy has a Swivel Seat in her 58 Firesweep.
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finsruskw
Posted 2012-02-09 8:44 AM (#307059 - in reply to #307048)
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The D's still retained the depressed area for the standard power seats.

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GregCon
Posted 2012-02-09 8:52 AM (#307063 - in reply to #307043)
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Uh oh...so a '58 needs the depressed areas, too?
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finsruskw
Posted 2012-02-09 9:03 AM (#307066 - in reply to #307063)
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If you're going to install 57-58 style satndard power seats, yes.
These "cake/pie pans" as I like to call them, are very prone to rust out.

Manual seats take the flat floor as do the swivel seats.
My F has swivel seats and the floor is flat. My C and D with P/S both are depressed floor pan
As am I when I cosider I haven't got them done yet!!!

The 59's were a crossover year with many itens such as firewall
and A/C system very similar to the 1960 models.
The floor and swival seats were also in the 60-62's

Dave S.
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GregCon
Posted 2012-02-09 11:31 AM (#307081 - in reply to #307066)
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Crap....is it possible to convert power swivel seats to manual by changing tracks?

I bought a PS setup for my 58 'assuming' it would fit. I'm not going to cut up the floor, though.

Out of curiosity, were the factory floor stamped depressed or was it a factory 'cut and weld' job?

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finsruskw
Posted 2012-02-09 6:31 PM (#307135 - in reply to #307081)
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They were factory stamped pieces

This is what they looked like

And this is what I had to do to fix it

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GregCon
Posted 2012-02-09 7:15 PM (#307148 - in reply to #307043)
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Thanks...that is what I envisioned - a cut and weld piece, similar to a 4 speed hump, rather than a 'one piece' floor pan with a specially pressed recess.

The floor looks like it had a recessed rim, though. Do you think all floors had that feature, and the center was cut out if needed?
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finsruskw
Posted 2012-02-09 8:28 PM (#307164 - in reply to #307148)
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Don't know, never had a close up look at a non-power seat floor pan.
I suspect the big pieces were all stamped w/the hole and then either the P/S or non P/S pieces were insralled depending on
whether or not the build sheet called for them.

Dave S.
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GregCon
Posted 2012-02-11 4:12 PM (#307437 - in reply to #307043)
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Thank you finruskw. So...no one has tried to swap seat tracks back and forth between manual and power seats?
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ronbo97
Posted 2012-02-11 6:14 PM (#307457 - in reply to #307437)
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The power seat setup changed for '59, such that a recess in the floor was no longer needed.

So if you have '59 p/swivel seats, they should work in your non-power seat '58.

Ron

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GregCon
Posted 2012-02-12 10:12 AM (#307525 - in reply to #307457)
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coupeman
Posted 2012-05-06 5:26 AM (#319848 - in reply to #307043)
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Is there a 4 or 6 way seat as well? If there is a 6 or 4 way, forward/back and up down does the floor vary for these seats?
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mstrug
Posted 2012-05-06 6:41 AM (#319851 - in reply to #307043)
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Pics of 1959 Imperial swivel seat into a 1958 Plymouth hardtop mockup:

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x403/58belvedere/swivelseatmock...

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x403/58belvedere/swivelseatmock...

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x403/58belvedere/swivelseatmock...

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x403/58belvedere/swivelseatmock...

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x403/58belvedere/swivelseatmock...

No dips or troughs required! Marc.

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coupeman
Posted 2012-05-06 6:55 AM (#319852 - in reply to #307043)
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Cheers Marc, Does your seat swivel when you open the door or is it a manual operation
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mstrug
Posted 2012-05-06 10:20 AM (#319868 - in reply to #319852)
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No cable just manual for the swiveling operaton.
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