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slimwhitman
Posted 2008-12-29 9:28 PM (#157174)
Subject: 1960 DeSoto Convertible



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Location: Kansas City, Kansas		I have seen old photos of this car before....was used in some early '80s european band's album cover. Thought some of you might want to see this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1960-Convertible-1940-DeSoto-Adventures-7-8-198...
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slimwhitman
Posted 2008-12-29 11:25 PM (#157185 - in reply to #157174)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Convertible



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imopar380
Posted 2008-12-30 1:57 AM (#157199 - in reply to #157174)
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FinFury57
Posted 2008-12-30 3:40 AM (#157203 - in reply to #157174)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Convertible



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Location: Kangasala, Finland		Oh, this must be an old Finnish band called Hurriganes (very popular in Sweden too in the 70's).
The car belongs to an old builder/collector Esa Salo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1pPwnah_eM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTeoL7B9HpQ&feature=related

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Imp58Alpes
Posted 2008-12-30 4:46 AM (#157207 - in reply to #157174)
Subject: Re: 1960 DeSoto Convertible



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Posted 2008-12-30 2:13 PM (#157265 - in reply to #157174)
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slimwhitman - 2008-12-30 6:28 AM
Thought some of you might want to see this.


Wow, are they sure NDC mag would be so high priced? NDC store sells them $2 ea.. BTW, I'm the one who translated this particular article from V8-Magazine to the DeSoto Adventures back in 1988! This former 4d sedan doesn't use a body of Chrysler convertible, E.Salo built it from bits by bits.
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sparky7
Posted 2008-12-30 2:17 PM (#157267 - in reply to #157265)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Convertible


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Dig those Bat-Mobile tail light lenses . . .

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StillOutThere
Posted 2008-12-30 11:07 PM (#157347 - in reply to #157174)
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Location: Under the X in Texas		I still like the one that Brad Beardsley (deceased) built in S. California in the '80s.  It was sold through Coddington's collector sales later and later still through Barret Jackson.  Anyone know where it is today?  It was built using a '60 Windsor convert and was powered by a dual quad 440 by Brad.  It was re-restored after the B-J sale I heard.



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imopar380
Posted 2008-12-31 12:38 AM (#157352 - in reply to #157347)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Convertible



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StillOutThere - 2008-12-30 8:07 PM I still like the one that Brad Beardsley (deceased) built in S. California in the '80s.  It was sold through Coddington's collector sales later and later still through Barret Jackson.  Anyone know where it is today?  It was built using a '60 Windsor convert and was powered by a dual quad 440 by Brad.  It was re-restored after the B-J sale I heard.
 

This same car is on this link http://www.resinrealm.net/Features/Specialprojects/60desotoproject.... and the writer claims its a factory built DeSoto. 

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Billy-Jack Ebare
Posted 2008-12-31 8:42 AM (#157370 - in reply to #157174)
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Location: A proud Canadian		Being a 60 Desoto owner/enthusiast myself, I have often wondered why Chrysler Corp didn't issue a rag top version of the Adventurer for 1960? This same question could be asked of the 1957-58 Fury. For the fact that these cars were of the very limited production variety, it leaves to question why there would be no rag top offered. One could only guess how many would have been built, had they have been produced in the first place. Years ago, I was at the St. Ignace Michigan car show and stumbled upon a 1957 Plymouth Fury Convert. For the untrained Mopar enthusiast, this car was bang on original in the sense of restoration quality. I spoke with the owner, and asked him about the history of the car. He created the car using a 57 Belvedere convert, and a rusty road salt destroyed 57 Fury. Having also owned/restored 2 other 57 Fury's he had enough parts to finish the project. The surprise was, he told me that hardly anyone questioned the fact of the legitimacy of the car. Those who did question the car appreciated the fact that they could catch a glimpse of a car that Chrysler probably should have built in the first place!!! I uploaded a couple of quick photoshop jobs of just such cars. One of them being my 60... If you can over look the amateurish photoshopping by me, they are pretty cool concepts all the same!

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Rebels-59
Posted 2008-12-31 9:03 AM (#157371 - in reply to #157370)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Convertible



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Billy-Jack Ebare - 2008-12-31 1:42 PM

Years ago, I was at the St. Ignace Michigan car show and stumbled upon a 1957 Plymouth Fury Convert. For the untrained Mopar enthusiast, this car was bang on original in the sense of restoration quality. I spoke with the owner, and asked him about the history of the car. He created the car using a 57 Belvedere convert, and a rusty road salt destroyed 57 Fury. Having also owned/restored 2 other 57 Fury's he had enough parts to finish the project. The surprise was, he told me that hardly anyone questioned the fact of the legitimacy of the car. Those who did question the car appreciated the fact that they could catch a glimpse of a car that Chrysler probably should have built in the first place!!!


There was a 57 Fury Convertible in Tulsa last year ( 2007 ) ... Was it this one you Mention...

Tulsa spectators are treated
to what a '57 Fury convertible would have looked like, had
the factory built one,
courtesy of GFSer
Dale Frahm.



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Billy-Jack Ebare
Posted 2008-12-31 9:07 AM (#157372 - in reply to #157371)
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Location: A proud Canadian		Yes... That is the one.... Notice the overall quality of the presentation... If you didn't know better, you would think that this rolled out this way..... Thanks Clive... Somewhere in my vast collection of car show pics I have a pic of this car.... What impressed me was the under hood detail. Very well done.
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StillOutThere
Posted 2008-12-31 11:00 AM (#157378 - in reply to #157352)
Subject: RE: 1960 DeSoto Convertible



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Ian,  I can assure you that the blue '60 Adventurer convert was built by Brad from a Windsor.  I stood there next to the car discussing it personally with the builder himself so the other web site is incorrect. 

Regards the discussion of why cars like a '60 Adventurer convertible or '57 Fury convert did not get built, it is almost always a marketing decision in my opinion.  Look at what was going on with DeSoto winding down production in '60 or back in '57 Chrysler had just introduced their first ever 300 Letter Car convertible which was far more attention grabbing for the media to promote the whole Chrysler line up.

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sparky7
Posted 2008-12-31 3:44 PM (#157410 - in reply to #157378)
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My parents were friends with the Chry-Ply dealer in New Mexico. He came over to deliver mom's '76 V*lare in person, and we stood around chatting; he liked my 66 M*stang ragtop. He said dealers liked convertibles 'cause they got traded in quicker than anything else, but they were getting traded for closed cars with A/C. The trend followed where the interstates were getting built out. Consumers did not like them on freeways even with the top up.

I remember as a kid they were the first cars to show their age . . . the top always looked like hell after a couple of years, even worse after a renewal with "shoe polish". In NJ you failed inspection once the back plastic window got too fuzzy.

I would love to have another, though.

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Windsor59
Posted 2008-12-31 5:13 PM (#157419 - in reply to #157174)
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden		Thanks for tne nice old pics from Finland at Adventure 60 conv. If you have see the car after that? what happend with the car?

A ather questing if any have see pic at the only two Windsor convertible ho was built at 1958. (I know one custom built in Sweden/Danmark) But I will see a orginal pic at this cars, I dont think this cars is in life but.....

This Windsor conv from 1958 must bee one off the rearest mopar fins cars ho builts from Chrysler factory?

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slimwhitman
Posted 2008-12-31 5:28 PM (#157420 - in reply to #157410)
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sparky7 - 2008-12-31 2:44 PM
My parents were friends with the Chry-Ply dealer in New Mexico. He came over to deliver mom's '76 V*lare in person, and we stood around chatting; he liked my 66 M*stang ragtop. He said dealers liked convertibles 'cause they got traded in quicker than anything else, but they were getting traded for closed cars with A/C. The trend followed where the interstates were getting built out. Consumers did not like them on freeways even with the top up.
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It is interesting you mention this because that kinda relates to a December, 1973 article in Road & Track magazine that I read recently that explains the (current in 1973) fall of the convertible in a very data-rich and scientific manner. The article does not blame government mandates or safety concerns for making the convertible too expensive or impossible to continue to build. Rather, it suggests that buyer tastes have changed, making the convertible a less attractive option for new car buyers. Some reasons listed were:

-Better interstate highways, higher speeds and longer travel times that make wind-in-your-hair driving less appealing.
-"Hardtop" design improved, making the 2 door hardtop more stylish.
-Convertibles cost more to build and sell than a comparable hardtop.
-Hardtops are stronger and have a stiffer frame for more spirited driving.
-Air conditioning became an affordable and more common option that made comfortable windows-up driving more common.
-Longer hair on men and women became the trend and was hard to keep orderly in a convertible.
-Custom vans and pickups became a trend that many would-be convertible buyers went to.
-Fake fabric top coverings on a hardtop became a style alternative to true convertibles. In 1971, 42% of all domestic cars were sold as fabric covered hardtops.

The article showed the slow decline in sales of the convertible from the mid-sixties into the seventies, compared to the hardtops of the same model. Sales were down because few buyers decided a convertible was the right car for them.

Some people apparently "thought" they wanted a convertible, but traded it in when they realized it was a silly purchase.

Market trends killed the convertible in the '70s, not the Feds and their crash or rollover regulations.
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2008-12-31 7:12 PM (#157429 - in reply to #157174)
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FinFury57
Posted 2009-01-01 6:48 AM (#157471 - in reply to #157419)
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Windsor59 - 2009-01-01 12:13 AM

Thanks for tne nice old pics from Finland at Adventure 60 conv. If you have see the car after that? what happend with the car?



The same owner still has the car (along with the other convertibles mentioned in the article). These cars have not been shown in public in years and very few are privileged to get to see them anymore.
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Tiger56
Posted 2012-07-29 3:57 PM (#332184 - in reply to #157471)
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The DeSoto Adventure -60 Convertible vill be shown at
X-Treme Car Show in Helsinki 1 - 2 september 2012,
after 30 years stored in a "Barn in Finland".

Together with several other Extreme Mopars
http://www.x-treme.fi/?page=1058&lang=1
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roadkillontheweb
Posted 2012-07-29 4:13 PM (#332187 - in reply to #157174)
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The Diplomat based on the Dodge dart platform offered a ragtop version. And the 61 Diplomat offered a lot more models than we could get here in the states.



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Tiger56
Posted 2012-08-08 4:34 PM (#333814 - in reply to #332187)
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Not easy to find information about DeSoto -60

Kuva by Hans Lehtinen

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Tiger56
Posted 2012-09-06 1:22 PM (#337799 - in reply to #157174)
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http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=43469&...

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