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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | i'm wonderin how cross rams would perform with 4 - deuces . most likely 2 g's and progressive , although 94's and 97's could be considered . maybe the 2 g's would be dumping way too much . please remember everyone is entitled to a brain fart , just mine come more frequently ! ---------------------------------------------later
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Location: Netherlands | You been sippin' on some of your moonshine-stash again?
Or did you make a strong mix of Whiskey and Brake clean today? 
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Location: Chestertown, NY ( near Lake George) | Yikes, zero driveability. |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | well , don't just sit there tell me why it wouldn't be driveable . i'm lookin for questions , answers and general solutions if any --------------------------------------------------------------------later |
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Location: Blythewood, SC | It could be tuned to run with enough patience. But the overwhelming overcomplexity would be preventative. Can you get adapter plates for that swap? It could be done, but it seems inefficient compared to a pair of four barrels. |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | There is a 2X2 to 4 bl adaptor. 4 97s is 600 CFM. 4 2GCs would probably be a bit big. There is a spreadbore(think they're spreadbore) internally progressive 2 bl that was used on Pintos, Vegas, possibly other things that might be interesting. You won't have hood clearance with any of them I suspect. |
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Location: Alaska | The only reason for multiple carbs "way back then" was because no one made single ones with enough CFM. Are you wanting a certain "look", why else would you do this? |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | 58coupe - 2012-04-10 10:18 AM
The only reason for multiple carbs "way back then" was because no one made single ones with enough CFM. Are you wanting a certain "look", why else would you do this? I think it would just create a lot of WTF thoughts on the minds of onlookers, nothing traditional there. Did see an old home done crossram that was done by making a plate that would bolt onto the 2 bl 331 Hemi intake with ram tubes that would mount, best I recall a 2bl per tube. That doubled the carburation from 1 2 bl to 2 2 bls.   |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | i'd like just to try something no one else maybe has . i'd also like the w t f look , just because ! i have the 2-2's to 4 adapters , which is no problem . maybe even have enough 94's layin around . hood clearance , i don't think would be an issue considering the rams are kind of a wrap around intake and the carbs sit lower at each side than the conventional center top of engine but then to there is the curve of the hood to consider . as my wife calls me a pack rat , i do have a not so good hood i've been savin that maybe could be used for this . all in all this is just something maybe to play with and just for the hell of it . at this point i'm gatherin up parts and pieces to rebuild one of the 388's i have , so even if this would come to pass , it would be a little while yet . got to address the multiple carb theory . i don't think the adapters i have were made to up the cfm . they bolt to a square bore 4bbl. intake , so if anything the cfm needed to run a 383 properly may be a tad low with the adapters and 94's , as two of them would produce less than 500 cfm , more like @ 480 cfm if i'm thinkin right , which may be a problem in it's self !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------later |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | The various types of 94s run between 155 & 185 CFM each |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | reaserch those Pinto carbs! |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | the pinto carbs i think are too long . -----------------------------------------------------------------later |
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Location: Alaska | If you look under the hoods of many new cars, you will find some very strange intakes. The F*rd and Ch*vy engineers discovered what the Chrysler engineers figured out way back in the 50s; a long tunnel ram gives you much more low and midrange torque. Of course this works best with MPFI because of the friction in the tubes. So, Chuck if you keep playing around you might make something good happen with that old 383. |
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Location: Blythewood, SC | If you have the carbs, adapters and the long rams, do it! At least cobble it up enough to make it run, even if you have some bas***dized linkage to get it going. Then you can decide if it's a keeper and make a nice linkage and fuel lines. Run no hood at all for testing, then cut up your spare hood if you need it.
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Location: N.W. Fla. | 60 dart - 2012-04-10 11:10 PM
the pinto carbs i think are too long . -----------------------------------------------------------------later Probably, but if you're talking those Y adaptors you might be able to cut & lenthen it a bit on the arm enough for the Pintos. Where the Pintos are internally progressive you can run straight linkage, would simplify things a bit. |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | there's no way the adaptors can be refabbed to spread center to center measurements . ------------------------------------------------later |
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Location: CEMENT CITY MICH. | Then I would like to see pictures of carb bases, intake flanges, planned orintation,and overall height with measurements along side each, and aproximate availabe hood height from port height. And after you have gotten all this info and posted it I hope to see pictures of the running prototype.
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | yes sir Mr Swanny ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how ya been buddy ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------later |
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Location: CEMENT CITY MICH. | I'm alright or at least as much as I ever am, lots of stuff going on trying to gear up to retire, as in spend the money while I'm making it, so I don't have to when I'm not. Buying alot of parts long ago has paid off now but only if I can find them, to much stuff?. and yourself?
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | bout in the same boat your headed to , sure was easier doin what i wanted or needed to do before i retired . for the most part all is well , except for all that honey doodoo stuff . i keep tellin her , my wife , i'm retired , no schedule but she ain't buyin it ! ------------------later
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Location: N.W. Fla. | 60 dart - 2012-04-10 11:10 PM
the pinto carbs i think are too long . -----------------------------------------------------------------later Just build a couple plenum boxes with enough space for them to fit! |
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Location: N.W. Fla. | Mopar1 - 2012-04-15 2:20 PM
60 dart - 2012-04-10 11:10 PM
the pinto carbs i think are too long . -----------------------------------------------------------------later Just build a couple plenum boxes with enough space for them to fit! |
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Location: atlanta | Why not go "all in" with dual trips? |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | HEHEHE , not enough fender well room -------------------------------------------------------------------------later |
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| hey chuck my friend ran a 6 x2 cross ram on a small block chevy in 59 impala station wagon on the street drove it long distances , he was running 97's jetted way down and had a big cam . it ran really good ! so i think you sould experiment with it ! and screw what others may think !!! |
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thinkin about cross ram with 2-2 , 2-2 carbs??????????
