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The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Looking to do a disc brake conversion. Has anyone done one? What did you use? | ||
bad58mike |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1150 Location: Southern California | I got mine from www.aajbrakes.com They work great! | ||
Mopar1 |
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Expert Posts: 3034 Location: N.W. Fla. | Depending on what you call "conversion" some later disc spindles pretty much bolt on. | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9673 Location: So. Cal | The Scarebird kit offers large 11.75" discs that offer better stopping power but will not fit the original 14" wheels. I believe that the <11" aaj kit will fit inside the original wheels. So the first thing to ask yourself is if you want to use original 14" wheels & hubcaps or not. | ||
VAN HELSING |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 982 Location: Upper Hunter NSW Australia | ........ I've got some '78 Dodge Aspen spindles, dust plates and caliper brackets en-route from the US to me at the moment for my 59 Dodge, supposedly they will fit with some mods but I'm a bit in the dark on this fitment until they arrive and I start to get into it. Apparently it's uses calipers from a whateveritis ??? and brake hoses from a yabba dabba doo ??? and bearings from a ding a ling ??? ........ | ||
The Chrysler Kid |
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Expert Posts: 1384 Location: Ocala, Florida | Haha thank you all! I think the aaj brakes would be best. | ||
matador440 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 690 Location: BELTSVILLE, MARYLAND 20705 | Do not use anything else than the AAJ KIT I have tried all the other kits and converting to latter stuff and they all have trouble. AAJ is the easiest and cheapest kit. Another thing is that it is serviceable with over the counter parts anywhere. | ||
Mopar1 |
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Expert Posts: 3034 Location: N.W. Fla. | VAN HELSING - 2014-03-03 6:57 PM The Aspen/Volare spindles are supposed to fit most of the FW cars. My '60 Plym was on the list, but they wouldn't fit. The distance between the upper & lower A Arm mounts on the '60 spindle was around 7". The Aspen one was only about 5" apart & the A arms wouldn't even bolt on, muchless have any travel. I have seen since then some ball joints with 1/2" and 1" extended shafts (Mopar Performance?) that would have restored the distance. I guess, depending on the change in distance, you could use them to not only restore OEM travel distance but could slightly raise/lower the front end. As it was I used '77 NYer spindles. The distance was only about 6" but they seem to work. I had to shorten the tie rods, tie rod ends & narrow the adjustment collars a bit to get everything to fit......... I've got some '78 Dodge Aspen spindles, dust plates and caliper brackets en-route from the US to me at the moment for my 59 Dodge, supposedly they will fit with some mods but I'm a bit in the dark on this fitment until they arrive and I start to get into it. Apparently it's uses calipers from a whateveritis ??? and brake hoses from a yabba dabba doo ??? and bearings from a ding a ling ??? ........ | ||
60 dart |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8947 Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | i have the aspen setup on red , they work fine . i have aaj on bertha , they work fine too ----------------------------------------------------later | ||
60 dart |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8947 Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | i have the aspen setup on red , they work fine . i have aaj on bertha , they work fine too ----------------------------------------------------later | ||
VAN HELSING |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 982 Location: Upper Hunter NSW Australia | Mopar1 - 2014-03-06 2:16 AM VAN HELSING - 2014-03-03 6:57 PM The Aspen/Volare spindles are supposed to fit most of the FW cars. My '60 Plym was on the list, but they wouldn't fit. The distance between the upper & lower A Arm mounts on the '60 spindle was around 7". The Aspen one was only about 5" apart & the A arms wouldn't even bolt on, muchless have any travel. I have seen since then some ball joints with 1/2" and 1" extended shafts (Mopar Performance?) that would have restored the distance. I guess, depending on the change in distance, you could use them to not only restore OEM travel distance but could slightly raise/lower the front end. As it was I used '77 NYer spindles. The distance was only about 6" but they seem to work. I had to shorten the tie rods, tie rod ends & narrow the adjustment collars a bit to get everything to fit......... I've got some '78 Dodge Aspen spindles, dust plates and caliper brackets en-route from the US to me at the moment for my 59 Dodge, supposedly they will fit with some mods but I'm a bit in the dark on this fitment until they arrive and I start to get into it. Apparently it's uses calipers from a whateveritis ??? and brake hoses from a yabba dabba doo ??? and bearings from a ding a ling ??? ........ ...... Some extra handy advise there, thanks for that, haven't got my Aspen parts here as yet but I'll check it out and the extended ball joints as well. ...... | ||
matador440 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 690 Location: BELTSVILLE, MARYLAND 20705 | VAN, You are asking for trouble with this conversion, The AAJ KIT bolts right on. It will not effect your steering or alignment. Nothing changes but the brakes. You buy the calipers , rotors and hoses at your local parts store. | ||
VAN HELSING |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 982 Location: Upper Hunter NSW Australia | matador440 - 2014-03-09 1:21 AM VAN, You are asking for trouble with this conversion, The AAJ KIT bolts right on. It will not effect your steering or alignment. Nothing changes but the brakes. You buy the calipers , rotors and hoses at your local parts store. .... Thanks for the advice, the Aspen parts are nearly here so I'm sort of kinda committed to at least looking into it, I have a good respected FL member here who has done the Aspen conversion successfully to help me along the way with what fits what and what to buy/where for it. Trouble for me is living in Australia, no parts stores have ever heard of these FL cars down here, no chance of ordering parts locally. If when it gets here I'll soon see if it's do-able or not but if not , yep, AAJ will get a call from me for sure. All good advice | ||
57chizler |
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Expert Posts: 3778 Location: NorCal | Lots of folks are running the F,J,M,R brakes without all the problems often described. | ||
chrysler300c |
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Expert ,, George Passed away July 28th 2021, He will be Missed Posts: 1295 Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Me too! Roger is great to work with at AAJ Brakes. George | ||
jade57savoy |
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Member Posts: 29 Location: South Easton & Cape Cod, MA | Has anyone tried 14" Ford disc brake wheels with the Scarebird conversion? They fit good and can be used with original wheel covers. | ||
Chrispy |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 520 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado | matador440 - 2014-03-05 6:55 AM Do not use anything else than the AAJ KIT I have tried all the other kits and converting to latter stuff and they all have trouble. AAJ is the easiest and cheapest kit. Another thing is that it is serviceable with over the counter parts anywhere. All of the kits? so you threw down $1200 on the wilwood conversion too? I appreciate your love of the AAJ kit, I do not appreciate hyperbole and blinders. The other kits are also viable and have their own advantages/disadvantages. Edited by Chrispy 2014-03-20 3:09 PM | ||
58coupe |
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Expert Posts: 1740 Location: Alaska | I am going to try the Aspen setup because it is setting in my yard. Bought the whole car for $100 so if it doesn,t work, I can sell it for $50 scrap price and I already got other parts off it. | ||
zrxkawboy |
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Veteran Posts: 168 Location: SD | Another vote for AAJ. I put their kit in my '57 Plymouth about 10 years ago, and it has worked well. | ||
PlymouthFury |
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Expert Posts: 1324 Location: Hickory, NC | Do not go the Aspen/Volare route. The steering geometry is thrown off, bump stops need to be cut, tires are way out of alignment. Really alot of trouble and modifications...it can be done easier.... The AAJ kit is simple, and works nicely. And you can keep your original 14 inch rims. I'd stick with the AAJ kit. I ordered the brackets and sourced the brake parts locally. I used a Volare/Aspen proportioning valve. | ||
60 dart |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8947 Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | i measured the bump stop on my dart today . it measured at a 3 1/8" gap between rubber and stop . that's at correct ride height by spec .---------------------------------------later | ||
57chizler |
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Expert Posts: 3778 Location: NorCal | PlymouthFury - 2014-03-25 5:09 PM Do not go the Aspen/Volare route. The steering geometry is thrown off, bump stops need to be cut, tires are way out of alignment. Nonsense!!!! | ||
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