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b5rt
Posted 2014-08-11 8:44 PM (#452514)
Subject: Van's gas tank reproduction



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My original tank is internally in good shape but has a noticeable dent and I'm considering buying a replacement at $275 plus shipping. The pictures they provide don't show the side with the vent tube and I doubt it has the drain plug as the original does.

Does anyone have any experience with their repop tanks?


Here's the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-60-61-Plymouth-Desoto-Gas-Fuel-Tank-N...

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ttotired
Posted 2014-08-11 9:47 PM (#452519 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: Re: Van's gas tank reproduction



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I have one in my dodge

It does have the vent tube (you can see it at the top of the filler neck and the tail of it at the front of the tank near the sender)

It doesnt have the drain

For a plymouth, it should be right, but for the dodge, the neck is about 2 to 3 inches short.

I dont think its a problem, but I havnt filled mine at a petrol station yet, so I dont know if the nozzle will reach properly yet

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The Adventurer
Posted 2014-08-12 10:27 AM (#452610 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: RE: Van's gas tank reproduction



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Be Wary , it seems many base models like Firesweeps etc use 20 Gallon Tanks and the Higher models use 23 gallon well in 1958 anyway .

Many people are selling these tanks off at a cheap price including a place in Australia as they are the small tank without telling people they don't suit all the models in that range . I believe the straps are different on the small tanks also , but I may be wrong .
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big m
Posted 2014-08-12 2:23 PM (#452640 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: Re: Van's gas tank reproduction



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23 gallon tanks do have their specific straps, as do the smaller 20 gallon ones.

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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-12 5:12 PM (#452665 - in reply to #452640)
Subject: Re: Van's gas tank reproduction



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Strap 'em on, here....

http://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_nkw=mopar+gas+tank+...



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ronbo97
Posted 2014-08-12 8:48 PM (#452680 - in reply to #452610)
Subject: RE: Van's gas tank reproduction


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The Adventurer - 2014-08-12 10:27 AM Be Wary , it seems many base models like Firesweeps etc use 20 Gallon Tanks and the Higher models use 23 gallon well in 1958 anyway . Many people are selling these tanks off at a cheap price including a place in Australia as they are the small tank without telling people they don't suit all the models in that range . I believe the straps are different on the small tanks also , but I may be wrong .

The 23 gallon tanks will fit all makes/models 57-9. You will need larger straps, which are available, if you use the 23 gallon tank in a car that came with a 20 gal tank.

Ron

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The Adventurer
Posted 2014-08-12 9:43 PM (#452689 - in reply to #452680)
Subject: RE: Van's gas tank reproduction



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Thanks Ronbo , I was just making mention to people that there are resellers selling you the wrong smaller tank rather than mentioning exactly which car they suit in their adds . I have no doubt they are all interchangeable with the right straps . Thanks
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ronbo97
Posted 2014-08-12 11:28 PM (#452698 - in reply to #452689)
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I should add that wagons have a different tank. So all, except wagons.

Ron

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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-13 12:49 AM (#452709 - in reply to #452698)
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You also need a 23 gallon fuel gauge sending unit...or bench test/adjust a 20 gallon's float, with the tank not yet installed, so that it
reacts and records accurately to the new capacity of fuel that's in it.

Actually, it's a good idea to bench test any new tank and sending unit, before installing them in/on your car.



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The Adventurer
Posted 2014-08-13 3:52 AM (#452721 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: RE: Van's gas tank reproduction



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Thanks Ronbo , yes you are right about the Wagon ! And Neil yes I forgot about the Sender also maybe being different !

Hence why it would be nice if the retailers knew their products !

Edited by The Adventurer 2014-08-13 3:53 AM
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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-13 3:22 PM (#452783 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: RE: Van's gas tank reproduction



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You (everybody) intending to replace a gas tank should take the opportunity to set up a bench-testing of the sending unit, and, even, the gas gauge.

The gauge should be removed and grounded, along with the tank, and 12V supplied to the system.

The Dodge (and probably the other marques) have little movable gauge-needle adjusters on them, which can fine tune the F and E positions.

You can play with partial/full/empty water fillings of the 'new' tank, and adjust the sending unit's float and/or the gauge adjusters so that Empty is a known position on the gauge...full-Full is nice to see, but hardly essential.

Half-full and Empty are what you want to verify, on the gauge.

Since the new tank will be clean, you can try some trick like painting a dab on the bottom of the pick up tube, so you could ensure that it is contacting the bottom of the tank.

The float should register E with the empty tank; you could put in one gallon of water and then adjust the gauge and float so that it barely responds to that gallon being installed, but with the gauge needle pointing to the E-mark.

Here's what one of the two small Dodge gauge adjusters look like; the other one is on the opposite side of the gauge.





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big m
Posted 2014-08-15 12:08 PM (#453025 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: Re: Van's gas tank reproduction



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Are these reproduction tanks zinc plated, or spray painted silver? I've not seen one up close.

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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-15 6:00 PM (#453055 - in reply to #453025)
Subject: Re: Van's gas tank reproduction



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Good question; if someone bought one of these guys, and looked into it and saw bare metal (or paint?), he could always apply
gas tank sealer into it, right?

Or, should he do that at ANY rate, before installing it????

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b5rt
Posted 2014-08-15 7:11 PM (#453063 - in reply to #452519)
Subject: Re: Van's gas tank reproduction



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ttotired - 2014-08-11 8:47 PM

I have one in my dodge

It does have the vent tube (you can see it at the top of the filler neck and the tail of it at the front of the tank near the sender)

It doesnt have the drain

For a plymouth, it should be right, but for the dodge, the neck is about 2 to 3 inches short.

I dont think its a problem, but I havnt filled mine at a petrol station yet, so I dont know if the nozzle will reach properly yet

[/QUOTE

I sent them a question about the filler neck length.
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57plybel
Posted 2014-08-16 2:47 AM (#453108 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: RE: Van's gas tank reproduction



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The adverts state "zinc plated", the packaging states "zinc plating "   but the reality is a cheap silver paint that will have to be stripped and redone as it is not adhering..... under the paint looks like straight mild steel to me...

 

Im still happy with the tank though !

 

 

 

Colin

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The Adventurer
Posted 2014-08-16 4:45 AM (#453117 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: RE: Van's gas tank reproduction



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To my knowledge Fuel tanks are made from "Terne" Coated steel , which is like a fine grain galvanising . They are not plated later as some may think .

Some of the tanks are painted in silver on top of this I believe to protect the coating further . No company would make a fuel tank out of bare mild steel as they would rust in no time .
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57plybel
Posted 2014-08-16 5:32 AM (#453120 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: RE: Van's gas tank reproduction



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Thanks for the tip James; there is no corrosion where the the paint is missing so I'm inclined to agree with you. 

 

 

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ttotired
Posted 2014-08-16 7:17 AM (#453126 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: Re: Van's gas tank reproduction



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Yes, mines painted silver and I scratched mine as well, but no rust

I will be buying another one once I get the plymouth problem sorted

Mine was a direct bolt in as well, so whatever size it is, its the same as what come out of it

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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-16 7:12 PM (#453197 - in reply to #453126)
Subject: Re: Van's gas tank reproduction



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So, what say ye all about prophylactic-ly applying a sealer into the tank, before it is installed?


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ttotired
Posted 2014-08-16 7:41 PM (#453204 - in reply to #452514)
Subject: Re: Van's gas tank reproduction



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Nothing

I left it alone, put it in, then put petrol in it

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tnlowrider
Posted 2014-08-17 10:50 PM (#453364 - in reply to #452514)
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I bought one from Vans and it was one of the best quality reproduction parts I have bought. I wish the panels from "Classic to Current Fabrication" were even close to the quality of the Vans tank.
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