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Location: Massachusetts | Hi,
I got my new Plymouth on Friday. It's a running driving car, hopefully I can get it registered next week and start bombing around.
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Location: Parts Unknown | What kind of sick mind owns a monotone Plaza sedan ? 
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Location: Parts Unknown | I considered buying that blue car, but was hard set on the Buzzard Puke Green.
That was the car I saw and fell in lust for in 1980, and that's what it had to be.
Changing paint color is a major PITA, and even though I am taking this one that
deep, I am happy I held out for an OEM green car. I got 318/TF, PS, PB, and A/C
AND dog dishies, blackwalls, body-colored wheels for the total stripper look. I
removed the side trim to take that option completely back to zero to complete
the scene.
Nothing is so dull as having a car like everyone else. No red and white paint,
no movie clone or dual fours. Just a real representation of a typical 1958 basic
car with fins. The Bluebonnet Blue is a little sexier than the green and I wanted
pure ugly.  Nice car you got there !
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Location: Blythewood, SC | My 57 4dr Savoy sedan was monotone white when it was built. Can't get more boring than that. |
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Location: Georgia | Very good, Paul! Glad to see that car went to a good home!
She's a good looking car, keep us updated with your progress with her.
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Location: Massachusetts | SavoyPlaza - 2015-03-28 7:29 PM
Very good, Paul! Glad to see that car went to a good home!
She's a good looking car, keep us updated with your progress with her.
Pete
Thanks!
No big plans yet. Hopefully just get it registered and drive it a bit and see what shakes out. I have a seven mile commute to work, I hope to drive this on sunny days. I'd like to at least get some matching tires for the car, as there are whitewalls in front and blackwalls in back. I'll likely just get another pair of 'Extensa A/S' tires to match the back ones. I'd love to get a set of dog dish caps, too... maybe trade for my old bias ply spare tire anyone? I'll sweeten the deal and include the tire chains that were in the trunk!
I have a service manual ordered, that'll help me to figure out a few things. Oh, like the clutch. I've only driven it around the block here, maybe two miles, and the clutch felt kind of funky. Maybe that's just the way these cars are, though? A '58 Plymouth Plaza isn't exactly a 'sports car.' There was a receipt for a Kanter clutch in the bundle of papers, so presumably it's had a clutch job sometime in the past. The last time I've driven a column shifter was my brother's old Dodge Demon many years ago, but I was surprised that first gear isn't synchronized. I'm in the process of installing a used car lift, that'll make working on it a lot easier.
It's good to know that there is a community of folks who know something about these cars to ask questions and give support.
Paul
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Location: little rock, AR | You've landed among your own kind!!! Easy cars to work on. Congratulations. I see someone was fibbing again to U-Haul. I would never fib to U-Haul. lol
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Location: Massachusetts | oldwood - 2015-03-29 9:06 AM
You've landed among your own kind!!! Easy cars to work on. Congratulations. I see someone was fibbing again to U-Haul. I would never fib to U-Haul. lol
No Sir !
I told them '58 Plaza right up front! It wouldn't fit on their older trailers, apparently. But they had one of the new, wider trailers, so it was a 'go.' I was really pleased with the trailer, car fit nice, easy to load, pulled nice and straight. Can't beat the price, either. $67 with insurance for a whole day. I MAY have exceeded their recommended 55 MPH once or twice, however...
Paul
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Location: little rock, AR | I always have to say it a Valiant. |
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Location: USA - KY | 
Congratulations, Chumley, on the purchase of your WAY cool, finned car!
Nice shade of blue too. Will it be staying that colour?
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Location: CA | Nice car! It looks like a real cream puff. I bet that paint will rub out nicely even if it's thin in spots it should still look great! |
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Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | U-Haul is Great! I got a truck and trailer for a little over $200 for over 200 miles and they let me leave the Mustang in their Parking lot for the day. Hauled a 58 Ply sport coupe with a make shift rear axle on what may have been a newer trailer. They go 70 MPH all day. Marc. P.S: Sorry to bust up your Plain Jane subject with my fancy car.
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Location: Massachusetts | I've been posting this sort of thing over in the "What Have You Done For Your FL Today?" thread, but I think I will post stuff like this here. It makes more sense to keep it with a thread about my car.
April 1st. '15
Well,
I got it registered and insured, and started driving around!
I put maybe 15 miles on it.
Nothing broke, but it's going to take awhile to get used to that clutch...
April 2nd, '15 Changed the engine oil and filter today. I have to say getting the cartridge type oil filter back on was a minor chore, trying to get the bolt lined up and threaded in while reaching around the center link, exhaust pipe, and torsion bar. But I endeavored to persevere, and got it on with only minor cursing.
The FSM calls for SAE 30, but also says that 20W-50 is OK to use, too. I have a half a drum of Cen-Pe-Co 15W-40 oil left over from my farming days, so I used that. I figure it's an old engine, I'll really only be running it in the warmer months, and hey, I got the oil anyways.
Oh, I got my car inspected today, too. The guy didn't know exactly where to put the sticker on the wraparound windshield... April 4th, '15 I've been driving my '58 Plaza around for a 3-4 days. I've only gotten to changing the oil, with a tune up on my short list. Anyways, visited a friend last night, and the car wouldn't start. Tried this and that. Finally took off the air cleaner, it was getting gas. Took off the distributor cap, and the points weren't sparking! Yes! The old 'scratch-the-points-with-an-old-screwdriver' routine! I can't remember the last time I had to do that! Put it back together and she fired right up. Man, I love it...
Note to self: Please don't drop the little air cleaner clamp into the running fan blade again... That could have been nasty.
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Location: Ocala, Florida | Gorgeous Plaza! Glad to see it finally went to a good home. |
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Location: Massachusetts | Durn it.
I filled up the gas tank last night, and I came home after work today and saw my gas tank was leaking... I haven't crawled under yet to see where it's leaking, but I suspect I'll need a new tank. Unless it's possible the tank is full and leaking out of the filler or sending unit? I guess I should check it out, drop the tank etc., before I go ahead and buy a new tank...
Paul
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Location: somerville mass | where in mass? nice car - but plaza bottom of the line then. v8 or flathead 6?tflite or 3 on the tree. i saw one years and years ago a savoy or plaza it didnt even have a heater! heater was an option. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Chum, I'll bet that your 'tank' leakage is occurring at the sending unit or at the filler tube.
If it was originating from inside the gas tank, itself, you should, already, have been aware of the leakage,
since the bottom of the tank ought to rust out, before the upper (drier) area of the gas tank.
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Location: Massachusetts | Thanks Neil, I think you're right. I've only had the car long enough to fill it up twice. The first time I don't think I filled it up as much, as I had the nozzle wide open, and the gas came splashing out the fill pipe. Somehow the shape of the pipe doesn't jive with these modern nozzles or something. I didn't notice a leak after that first fill up. The second time, I 'smartened up,' and filled it more slowly. Nothing regurgitated out of the filler, and I likely put in more gas. Maybe enough to lose some out of a leaky sending unit?
One other thing that may be related: The gas gauge reads near empty, but I can only put in 11-12 gallons. When I do, it reads near full. Maybe the sending unit?
MoparSteve, I'm out in Western Mass., maybe 20 minutes North of Springfield. The car has a V8 and a column shift manual. Yeah, I know Plaza was the bottom of the barrel Plymouth. That just adds to the charm... |
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Location: bishop, ca | Oh, man...one of the FWDLK facts of Life is that, toward the end of a complete,
continuous fill-up, our gas tanks BELCH-back up..... the air that gets
trapped inside the gas tanks, which cannot, otherwise escape
from within the gas tanks....so that an unpleasant eruption is caused to occur, which causes
fuel to flow out, momentarily, over-and-down the gas-lid area of the car.
All we can do about that nasty fact of life is to TRY to end the gas flow when we think that the
tank's fill level is getting to within about 3-ish gallons of being super-full (up to the top
of the filler tube).
Then, we carefully pull back the fuel nozzle and observe the 'final' flow of gas until we see that
the fuel level has reached the end of the filler tube.
This protocol is usually reserved for instances where precise accounting of fuel-consumed is
important, for MPG readings, or for long distance driving.
Even so, it is easy to forget, or not to know, exactly how much gas is in the tank...until that
trapped-air 'belching' occurs.
But, it is critical to know where a car's real "Empty" (and its various intermediate-fill readings)
may be shown, on the gas gauge.
As a starting point, you can look at your gauge and guesstimate its 'fullness' (write it down
and photograph the gauge reading) and then super-fill it and record its actual fill-level....
with the tank being the-emptier-the-better....each time this super-filling occurs.
Once you get several such testings done, you'll be able to trust the gas gauge's various
intermediate fill-level readings.
(You don't really care about how 'full' the gauge reads...only where the gauge reads, when the
tank is empty.)
Modern vapor-recovery fuel delivery nozzles can work to stop such 'belchings', if the
nozzle is firmly held down against the filler orifice, at the end of a complete fill-up.
On other threads, there are discussions about adjusting/changing (bench testing-) a tank sending
unit, and/or the gas gauge, itself, to produce accurate (or at least, reliable) tank readings.
(Got a long-held idea, here, that I'm going to run-by a member or two, in this regard....)
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