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Location: Montana | I have added R&P to a 61 Dodge wagon and made it work......so far. I have not gotten the car to a completed enough point for a road test but in the shop it works pretty well. I used one from a 2005 Malibu. The width is pretty darn close and they are plentiful in the junkyards. This rack however, is a manual rack (with electric assist in its OEM form) which may not work for your project. I was wanting to keep everything simple for my project so manual was perfect. You may not feel the same on yours. I did sacrifice some turning radius but it is somthing I can live with. The pic I have attached was taken right when I first began fabricating parts and getting stuff to line up. Some small changes have been made since then. Edited by D11 2015-12-22 3:38 AM (R&P2.jpg) Attachments ----------------  R&P2.jpg (181KB - 132 downloads) | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13055   Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | grunau - 2015-12-22 1:49 PM Hi I'm just curious as to the reasoning behind this modification ... I second that  | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13055 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | As the active driver I am, I never yet felt the need for changing the constant control and I'm very sure that if someone needs improvement, then there's several rebuilder that can fix a firmer feel. Space, that's another issue totally - the need for modifying and hot rodding the FL cars might create needs for changing concept. When the concept is changed, the spirit of an FL car simply fade away and dies - even if it handles better  The rack n' pinion above could have bump steer issues though?! Edited by wizard 2015-12-22 3:23 PM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7417 Location: northern germany | wizard - 2015-12-22 3:21 PM As the active driver I am, I never yet felt the need for changing the constant control and I'm very sure that if someone needs improvement, then there's several rebuilder that can fix a firmer feel. Space, that's another issue totally - the need for modifying and hot rodding the FL cars might create needs for changing concept. When the concept is changed, the spirit of an FL car simply fade away and dies - even if it handles better The rack n' pinion above could have bump steer issues though?! i second that a million times | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8445 Location: Perth Australia | If you wanted to go to r+p steering, wouldnt it be easier to convert the entire front end to a mustangII setup so you also loose the torsion bars? I know this will bring howls, but for hot rodding, those darn things are in the way Not sure what was in here, but I thought it was a mustangII, as its got air bags Interestingly though, it does look quite stock under the bonnet (blue low1.jpg) (blue low3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- blue low1.jpg (180KB - 138 downloads) blue low3.jpg (169KB - 147 downloads) | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13055 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | D11 - 2015-12-22 9:33 PM Wizard, I fully expected to be met with the disapproval of modifying a FL car from its stock form. I understand you being a purist and wanting things to stay as they were when the car rolled off the line. :-) Objection  Lets not offend the purists by counting me in to their close circles! If you have followed my threads, then you know that I'm constantly adding options that never was on the car when it left the factory and that I'm constantely reset and improve the car. The difference is that I'm trying to keep it period correct as much as possible. Even our dear Neil (RIP) was never a purist even if many thought so. Neil cared a lot for oem appearances, but at the same time he improved his car all the time. What I underline is that the FL-cars, especially the last generation, was totally outstanding in handling and roadability in comparison with the competition. In fact so good that the cars still handles good after +55 years "as is" and could be improved to be exceptionally on the road with some small changes. I do understand that some guys wants to make changes and that choice of components may force on changes. What I want to convey is that sometimes it's a long expencive road just to find out that it was better from the start. Edited by wizard 2015-12-23 2:25 AM | ||
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| Thanks D11! Holy, Are you running a 5.9 Cummins?! Wizard, I totally get what you're saying. There has been times I've gone too far with mods, and ended up selling the car because it lost its original appeal that drew me to it in the first place. In my case, I felt I was between a rock and a hard place with the original box, I had 2 of them and both were deemed unrebuildable by a specialized shop. It was just the excuse my creative streak needed, which rules me | ||
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Location: Montana | You are correct. I put a 5.9 Cummins from a 96 Dodge 2500 pickup in my wagon and backed it with a 5 spd OD transmission . It has evolved into quite the project but I am getting close to done with it. There isn't much room for anything else under the hood after you set it in. (img20151223_091748.jpg) Attachments ---------------- img20151223_091748.jpg (128KB - 129 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3780 Location: NorCal | I'm a fan of rear-mounted racks, front-mounted racks are often easier to mount because of limited room at the rear. I've used the Cavalier racks on a couple of non-Mopar swaps, the limited travel can be overcome by shortening the steering arms. On the last one I did ('50 Olds) the difference in travel was minimal so I left the arms alone. (Looking up.jpg) (Rear View.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Looking up.jpg (75KB - 188 downloads) Rear View.jpg (74KB - 139 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3780 Location: NorCal | Took me a while to find the pics of steering arms I shortened for a Studebaker with the Cavalier rack. I know lots of folks shun welding on any suspension/steering part but it's all about doing it correctly. (Strng arms.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Strng arms.jpg (58KB - 120 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8947 Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | |||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | Wise choice kemosabee I have a Z06 steering rack in my 70 Goat though (WP_001098.jpg) Attachments ---------------- WP_001098.jpg (230KB - 144 downloads) | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13055 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | As I was thaught, welding and heating front suspension parts are absolutely not allowed. A bent part is to be considered junk and thrown in the appropriate bin As discussed in another thread; it's fine to risk your own life, but not the life of other people........... | ||
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