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Location: upstate new york | any recomendations on tires???? bias ply vs radial??? looking for wide white walls....9.00 X 14.00 for 57 New Yorker 4dr sedan does this equate to a G78 - 14 or a 235/75 R14 Coker has a bias ply G78-14 wide white wall for $151 ea...any feed back? thanks guys, billy |
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Location: Branson, MO | G78 is way too small in comparison to 900. Check comparison charts on Coker's website.
If you are using your car as a driver - go radials. For a show car - bias. Be sure to have your alignment done accordingly.
"It's delightful, it's delovely, it's DeSoto" |
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Location: Valley Forge, Pa. | My personal advice and maybe I am just unlucky with tires, is to stay away from Coker if possible. I've had several that the cords seperated[3 out of 4 of one set] and had 2 on my 2nd set that the white walls cracked. I tried 2 sets before I finally gave up. I MAY have gotten over 10,000 miles on them but it couldn't have been much more than that. I stopped out to Coker in Hershey a couple years ago and complained. The saleman said I should use the other one they sell. American Classic. He said the Cokers were made in Mexico and the American Classics were made in the U.S. I have had some problems with a couple of them also and it always seemed to happen just after the warrentee ran out. I have a full set of them on now and probably approaching 10,000. They seem to be holding up so far. Just have to stay away form them curbs.
IF and when I need my next set, I think other manufacturers are making them and I will try them. I think Firestone?
If you are planning on driving your car, get radials. MUCH smoother ride, handles a lot better and won't track every tiny ridge in the road, they actually help your gas milage, last longer, stop better with less slipping and over all much safer and easier to drive.
If it is a trailor queen or you like to do burn outs, go bias. |
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Location: Alaska | A company called Universal Tire is advertising a bias looking radial tire to fit our old cars which IMHO is the best of both worlds. Haven't tried them yet. |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | 58coupe - 2015-12-01 10:15 AM
A company called Universal Tire is advertising a bias looking radial tire to fit our old cars which IMHO is the best of both worlds. Haven't tried them yet.
That tire is also made by Coker. I was in Hershey this October and was ready to buy a set... and they are backorder in 14'' untill spring. Plus, when asked about the reviews and quality, so far, the Coker rep selling them told me "well, of course, I wouldn't use them when it rains, but otherwise, they are very good riding radials!"... I thought to myself: "WTF?"
At that very moment, I decided to go with the tires that were originally on our cars: bias ply Good Year Custom Super Cushion, since they are still available and the set I had bought for my 59 were very good and rode well. Plus, you really cannot beat the looks. |
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Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | I had Cokers on my 59 Dodge vert, had a terrible time with them, never could balance them.
I got rid of them and went with Diamond Back tires. They take a Cooper tire, or several brands of your choice and then Vulcanize the white side wall on. I've had them on the 59 Dodge for 5 years or so now, and really like them, they are Cooper Tires.
I like them so much in fact that when a coker tire Shreaded the steel belt and took out my headlights, (from the inside), I replaced them with Diamond Backs, and again I'm very happy with them. To be fair the Cokers on the Chrysler were probably 14 years old. The tires on the Chrysler now are Toyo tires as I recall. The car rides like a baby buggy and handles very well!
You can't get the really big size (sorry I can't recall sizes) but the largest size work well and looks great and the white walls stay white, no yellowing.
Just google Diamond back Tires, they are in the Carolinas.
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Location: Colo Spgs | Hola Bill
We know that you have asked for White Wall Tyre information.
Fact: More New Yorkers and like cars from other makes all used black Wall than any other style of tyre.
Fact: Of The 9.00 x 14 Tyres ---- every make sold more Black Walls than any White Wall.
Fact: If you use a Black Wall you will always be 100% Correct.
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Every equal Tyre Size Radial has an larger "foot print" than a like sized Bias designed tyre.
This means that if one uses a Radial Tyre --- there will always be more stress placed on every Steering Part and adjacent part(s).
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compare a Tennis Shoe that slides vs one that grips to the floor and places more stress on a persons ankle.
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Rodger & Gabby
Colo Spgs
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| bias ply, lucas classic tires, I run lucas on my 65 442 ,60,61 Plymouths, 51,54 chevy, 1950 fl HD, anything else looks silly, like oldwood |
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Location: Aurora, Co | In 2002 I bought a set of Coker American Classic Radials, 225x75x15, with 3" WW. They did require a few extra Tire Weights to acheive balance. but they have NEVER given me any trouble. I have put 35K miles on them & except for tire shops refusing to touch them because they were 12 years old I've had nothing negitive to report. I'll buy another set a soon as I get the interior finished. Don't know anything about Customer Support as I've never had to deal with thm. |
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Location: upstate new york | Alright Forward lookers its time for me to pull the trigger on new sneaks for the ole girl....there is still snow on the ground here in upstate NY, but Spring is coming...after purusing the internet at sites like Coker, Lucas and Summit, am I looking to spend $250 / tire for wide whitewall radials??? I'm not known as being a cheapskate, but my truck tires cost less and they're twice as big....Anyone got a line on good ww radials that wont break the bank??? thanks, billy |
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | Regular radial tires...and Port-o-Walls!  |
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Location: Naperville, IL | I got a set of ww radials from Calli Wheel and Tire last summer. www.callitw.com Look good and staying white - slightly wavy at places if examining closely, so not perfect. The whitewall width can be specified and it does not reach the bead, so there is some black between the rim and ww. Tires were Cooper Trendsetters. Drives great! |
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Location: Under the X in Texas | The market for your truck tire type and size is about one thousand times larger than for your collector car tire. The truck tires get replaced every 2-3 years and your collector tires will be on some car in use or not for ten or twenty years or longer.
I remember the '60s and '70s in this hobby when we (I included) were visiting old tire warehouses in big cities and going through rooms full of obsolete wide whites and others trying to find matched pairs suitable to our cars. For a while there was NOTHING in new wide whitewalls to be bought.
Even at $250 per collector WWW, these are the good old days right now.
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Location: Canada | Just wondering if anyone can recommend a modern radial equivalent to a 9.00 X 14.00 for my 59 New Yorker, just looking for a basic radial black wall, going to the US in early May, looking to buy a set and take them home. |
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Location: Ramona, CA | crvsir - 2016-04-08 4:46 AM
Just wondering if anyone can recommend a modern radial equivalent to a 9.00 X 14.00 for my 59 New Yorker, just looking for a basic radial black wall, going to the US in early May, looking to buy a set and take them home.
You'll need a 235/75r14 tire and there aren't many choices. My 300F has 10 year old Cokers on it and under 1000 miles and I'll be changing them this year. Probably just get the same thing. |
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Location: upstate new york | If my OEM is 9.00 X 14 and the closest tire is 235/75R - 14,,,,this may be a stupid question but am I looking for 9.00 X 14" rims also???? I'm not sure what is on it now...I just want the basic steel rim, with a nice radial and my stock hub caps..... |
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Location: Branson, MO | You can use what you have on the car for either tire if they are the stock rims and are all the same width which is probably at least 6 inches or so between the beads.
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