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Location: North Australia | http://www.moparmarket.com/classifieds_view.php?classifiedad=43797 |
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Location: Perth, Western Australia | He has a similar ad on Gumtree. Also just "negotiable" as the purchase price. I find it hard to get interested in buying a car when you don't even know the price range. I also don't understand that when using the fantastic selling medium of the web that people omit photos of the interior, panel close ups etc. My last FL came from Newcastle (Ebay ), the one before that QLD (Ebay), the one before that Big M in California ( FLNWK) . All bought off photos and a discussion.
If you ring a seller up and the first thing you ask is the price then they often get surly when the conversation stops and you are know longer interested in their product. You get a worse reaction if you let the seller tell you all the features and benefits and why you should buy the item and then you either choke on the inflated price they tell you because they think they have sold it to you in the conversation or you give them your offer and they are offended as no one set the expectation.
I am confused by someone trying to sell a car with 3 distance photos and a price of " negotiable" or "?????".
Is it a trap? |
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Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | Blokes that don't price their wares are arse 'oles. Marc. |
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | Try selling a car these days (even with a price) , you might get why people do funny things in their ads ! |
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Location: Tasmania, Australia | heldam - 2016-03-19 2:51 PM
He has a similar ad on Gumtree. Also just "negotiable" as the purchase price. I find it hard to get interested in buying a car when you don't even know the price range. I also don't understand that when using the fantastic selling medium of the web that people omit photos of the interior, panel close ups etc. My last FL came from Newcastle (Ebay ), the one before that QLD (Ebay), the one before that Big M in California ( FLNWK) . All bought off photos and a discussion.
If you ring a seller up and the first thing you ask is the price then they often get surly when the conversation stops and you are know longer interested in their product. You get a worse reaction if you let the seller tell you all the features and benefits and why you should buy the item and then you either choke on the inflated price they tell you because they think they have sold it to you in the conversation or you give them your offer and they are offended as no one set the expectation.
I am confused by someone trying to sell a car with 3 distance photos and a price of " negotiable" or "?????".
Is it a trap?
I too get a bit annoyed about not putting a price on an add, if your interested in the car but then find out it's 10k over your budget you've probably wasted the sellers time asking questions about the car for the last 30 minutes. I'm tempted to email seller to ask if he has a price range on said car, explaining that I don't want to waste his time with a bunch of questions and more pics if it's not in my budget.
So does anyone here have an opinion on what this car is worth? I know its a broad question with the seller not providing much info but just curious. |
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Location: Newcastle Australia | History of sales in Australia (that I know of):
1959 4dr RHD Custom Royal Restored sold$50k
1959 4dr RHD Custom Royal Restored sold $42k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal restored sold $40k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal unrestored good condition sold $13k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal unrestored rough sold $12k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal unrestored very rough sold $8k
1958 2dr Lancer converted to RHD sold $36k
As mentioned above, the photos are very poor, but the car appears straight, it's a driver and registered.
I'd put the value somewhere in the high $20k's. |
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Location: Perth, Western Australia | The Adventurer - 2016-03-20 10:02 PM
Try selling a car these days (even with a price) , you might get why people do funny things in their ads !
I see the 1957 NY is still in your stable list? How was the FL market when you were looking to sell it? |
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Location: Perth, Western Australia | lozrox58 - 2016-04-02 5:59 AM
History of sales in Australia (that I know of):
1959 4dr RHD Custom Royal Restored sold$50k
1959 4dr RHD Custom Royal Restored sold $42k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal restored sold $40k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal unrestored good condition sold $13k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal unrestored rough sold $12k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal unrestored very rough sold $8k
1958 2dr Lancer converted to RHD sold $36k
As mentioned above, the photos are very poor, but the car appears straight, it's a driver and registered.
I'd put the value somewhere in the high $20k's.
Have you got the dates of these sales? It would bring the perspective of how frequently / infrequently these local assembly RHD cars are coming up for sale. |
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Location: Tasmania, Australia | lozrox58 - 2016-04-01 7:59 AM
History of sales in Australia (that I know of):
1959 4dr RHD Custom Royal Restored sold$50k
1959 4dr RHD Custom Royal Restored sold $42k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal restored sold $40k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal unrestored good condition sold $13k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal unrestored rough sold $12k
1958 4dr RHD Custom Royal unrestored very rough sold $8k
1958 2dr Lancer converted to RHD sold $36k
As mentioned above, the photos are very poor, but the car appears straight, it's a driver and registered.
I'd put the value somewhere in the high $20k's.
Wow lozrox58 you keep an eye on the market that's for sure. Thanks for the info mate, I'm new to the values of the FL cars so it's great to get an idea of the prices these cars are fetching. |
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Location: Newcastle Australia | I'm pretty slack with the dates, and if you own one of the cars I have commented on please be gentle.
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Location: Tasmania, Australia | Has a new add now on Gumtree with a price and more pics. 40k.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/paradise/cars-vans-utes/dodge-custom... |
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Location: So. Cal | Yep, typical. No price usually means that it is so high that it scares most people away, so they don't want to mention it. |
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Location: Perth Australia | Hard to value a car without actually seeing it, but from what I have seen of the collector car market in the last few months, if you want to sell a car, expect to be beaten down severely.
The Mining boom we had here is well and truly over and a lot of people that worked in the mines have lost their jobs and are hurting now and a lot of nice toy cars are selling (or being offered) very cheap
I think he would be lucky to get low 20s right now
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Location: Branson, MO | The low $20's would be in line with the cost of my '59 DeSoto a little over a year ago. Mine was a bit higher but it had only 21K miles at the time and totally factory original with just one single stage repaint that looks factory original. It even has the original trunk mat and trunk liner that is hardly heard of these days. Same with the interior headliner, sun visors, kick panels, and sill moldings. I did add wire wheels that added a little over $2K with mounting, balancing, and alignment but that's been it so far.
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Location: Perth Australia | I dont see the Australian collector car market like the US one, here, if your trying to sell a finned car the values seem to be about the same for whatever car your chasing, although the tri 5s tend to be more pricey.
Most Aussies do not really get the rarity aspect of a lot of the cars because, really, most American cars are rare here and most people wouldnt know the difference between a plymouth, a desoto or a fairlane, they are just old American cars that are cool, so when you go to sell them, if the car has a rarity premium on it, it will be passed up by most for the cheaper "classic finned car" except for those that want "that" car
My dodge will sooner or later come up for sale, and I think the only way to value it is to take an average of the similar era cars for sale in a similar condition and go with that
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Location: Melbourne, Australia | Unless your car is post office red and is a clone of a car that starred in a 1983 Movie , there isn't much chance of getting decent price for it here ! To many sheep not enough gumboots
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Location: Sydney, Australia | I guess that's the same as the 2 door XB Falcon was at one stage... Unless it was black and customised to look like a Mad Max clone, most people in the rest of the world didn't car for it and why would they.. Knight rider, The Dukes Of Hazzard, Bullit, Gone In 60 Seconds etc etc etc.... I guess that's what movies and TV series do for cars. Not only movies make clones, there are so many cars cloned/replicated to look like a special production car, Falcon Gt's, HDT Commodores, RT Chargers, Sandman, Drifter utes and vans and probably a lot more USA cars SO.........
Mick I reckon you're bang on the buck regarding Finned cars down here (probably the same as a FJ or FX being sold over there and not being recognised as what they are here)but different finned cars are starting to be recognised as being collector/investment over here... Of course the minority are recognising the Mopar whilst the majority still see Chev or Caddilac as the car to have.. I watched a story about a month ago on channel 2's 7.30 report on how people are starting to drop off investing in property and going for local and overseas cars. It's becoming more and more because property always fluctuates sometimes for the worst. There was that big boom that went out of control for Australian muscle cars about 8 years ago but that was silly times. Hopefully when you're ready to sell that Dodge it will be more recognised. I've seen the photos of it and it's really well done.
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Location: So. Cal | ttotired - 2016-05-10 4:03 PM
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My dodge will sooner or later come up for sale, and I think the only way to value it is to take an average of the similar era cars for sale in a similar condition and go with that
Why sell your Dodge? It doesn't make sense to put a lot of time and effort into a car just to sell it off. Now is the time to be enjoying it. |
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Australian 58 Dodge. In South Aus
