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drosera88
Posted 2017-10-21 8:37 PM (#550769)
Subject: My 57 Arrived!



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Here it is, more or less exactly as the seller described. Biggest issues I've encountered is the area of bondo
the seller told me about on the rear driver's side rear well, some noise from the power steering when I turn tightly, non functional fuel gauge, outside door locks that don't seem to work with the key I have, and that if I roll the front window up on the driver's door while the door is closed you get trapped in the car! Other than that though I'm really happy with how well the car drives and runs. Body is solid over all, and underneath its decent as well with some amateur (but solid) patching on the floors and trunk. Starts easier than my 61 did when I first bought it! If anyone is interested in selling, I'm looking for a stock air cleaner to replaced the chrome aftermarket one, and a new sending unit. Also looking for some help with the VIN number: W57440217. Someone suggested that it might be a Canadian Windsor due to the Saratoga side trim, and if it is, I'm looking to buy the rest of the Saratoga trim as well. I also want to find a different material for the back dash (is that what it's called?) instead of that fleece which is currently installed. 

Also wondering if any one knows how these two holes formed in the headliner and carpet. They're basically right above and below each other and appear to be burns! I have no idea what would burn the carpet, headliner, and visor in almost the same spot without burning or damaging anything else. The only thing I can come up with is that someone had a cigar lit, accidentally caught the headliner on fire, dropped the cigar when he realized this and tried to put the headliner out. When he put out the headliner, he must have realized that the dropped cigar lit the carpet on fire and put that out too. Seems far fetched but I can't come up with any other reason. 

I'm also wondering what the two extra pedals do. I am not familiar with the 57 controls and my 61 does not have these. 

Comments? Suggestions? 

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Edited by drosera88 2017-10-21 8:50 PM
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58coupe
Posted 2017-10-21 9:21 PM (#550770 - in reply to #550769)
Subject: Re: My 57 Arrived!



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If you are referring to the two small pedals up under the dash: the left one is for the manual washer pump and the right one opens the fresh air vent. Nice car. My first thought of the hole in the headliner is mice!
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-10-21 10:49 PM (#550773 - in reply to #550770)
Subject: Re: My 57 Arrived!



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Nice car. Congrats.

I think the rear "dash" is called the "parcel tray" and yes, that fleecy stuff needs to go.

Manual Choke Conversion (I did that to my 55 Dodge way way WAY back) (My "new" 56 has an Echlin electric choke). Pull the black knob to start and then push in as the engine warms up. Fool proof but not fool proof.

Not sure what the little silver button beside the black choke knob is other than a starter button, i.e. something is wrong with the ignition switch.







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drosera88
Posted 2017-10-23 11:46 AM (#550857 - in reply to #550770)
Subject: Re: My 57 Arrived!



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58coupe - 2017-10-21 8:21 PM

If you are referring to the two small pedals up under the dash: the left one is for the manual washer pump and the right one opens the fresh air vent. Nice car. My first thought of the hole in the headliner is mice!


Cool! That solves the mystery of what they do. As for the hole, I thought of that too, but I thought it was kind of weird that both holes were directly above and below each other on the floorboard and headliner. The hole in the carpet even has burn marks, so who knows. Maybe it was slag from welding a patch in the roof at one point?

56D500boy - 2017-10-21 9:49 PM

Nice car. Congrats.

I think the rear "dash" is called the "parcel tray" and yes, that fleecy stuff needs to go.

Manual Choke Conversion (I did that to my 55 Dodge way way WAY back) (My "new" 56 has an Echlin electric choke). Pull the black knob to start and then push in as the engine warms up. Fool proof but not fool proof.

Not sure what the little silver button beside the black choke knob is other than a starter button, i.e. something is wrong with the ignition switch.



Thanks. Is a manual choke a better choice instead of the original automatic choke in this case? The silver button is the ignition, and since the key I have doesn't open the doors, I'm thinking that the ignition switch was replaced at some point with a non-matching one, and the original key was lost.

What would it take to re-key the car? Do I need to completely replace the door handles to re-key it? Or is there a lock mechanism that can be removed and replaced?
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56D500boy
Posted 2017-10-23 2:40 PM (#550867 - in reply to #550857)
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When I got my 56 Dodge there were NO KEYS for it. So I had to remove the ignition lock (a few wires held to the back with 3/8" nuts - (that you have to keep straight and put back in the correct order) and a set screw). I took it too a locksmith and they keyed it for me. Cost $60 with two keys. Subsequently, I removed the drivers door look cylinder (one very interesting clip) and took it to the locksmith who then keyed it to the new ignition key.

In addition, I recently bought a trunk lock cylinder from Ian S. (imopar380 here) who is a professional locksmith *AND* FL Chrysler owner. The only things I now need keys for are the glove box (typically keyed to the trunk key) and the passenger door (which will be keyed to the ignition key as well).

I suggest that you contact Ian via private mail here. IF you have an exposed email you I will email you and CC Ian to get the ball rolling.

It can be done. Just a few $$.



UPDATE: Your email is not exposed so I sent you a private message here (see above, click on Inbox,) with Ian's email.



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luedi
Posted 2017-10-23 2:55 PM (#550869 - in reply to #550769)
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absolute cool car....
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57burb
Posted 2017-10-23 5:14 PM (#550882 - in reply to #550769)
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Congratulations! Beautiful '57 Chrysler you have there. Let me know if you're still interested in swapping bumpers, or if there's anything else you might be looking for. I don't believe any air cleaner I have will work on a 354 poly.
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KcImperial
Posted 2017-10-23 9:13 PM (#550904 - in reply to #550769)
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Wow. I haven't seen a Sparkomatic radio since the 80's!
And, such a nice looking Chrysler carrying case for it too!
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hemidenis
Posted 2017-10-23 9:29 PM (#550906 - in reply to #550769)
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Very nice car, but that radio should be used as a wheel chock...
Fortunately the original radios are abundant.
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drosera88
Posted 2017-10-24 12:47 PM (#550944 - in reply to #550882)
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57burb - 2017-10-23 4:14 PM

Congratulations! Beautiful '57 Chrysler you have there. Let me know if you're still interested in swapping bumpers, or if there's anything else you might be looking for. I don't believe any air cleaner I have will work on a 354 poly.


Thank you! I've PM'ed you so we can figure out the details. I'm also interested in Saratoga trim for the fins if you have it so I can complete the two tone scheme.

KcImperial - 2017-10-23 8:13 PM

Wow. I haven't seen a Sparkomatic radio since the 80's!
And, such a nice looking Chrysler carrying case for it too!


hemidenis - 2017-10-23 8:29 PM

Very nice car, but that radio should be used as a wheel chock...
Fortunately the original radios are abundant.


The original radio is still in it. Not sure if it still works though. I might keep that 'Sparkomatic' radio in there cause you know, who's gonna want to break in and steal that!? That thing is older than me! Its the first time I've even heard of 'Sparkomatic.'

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56D500boy
Posted 2017-10-24 1:20 PM (#550946 - in reply to #550944)
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drosera88 - 2017-10-24 12:47 PM
hemidenis - 2017-10-23 8:29 PM
Very nice car, but that radio should be used as a wheel chock...
Fortunately the original radios are abundant.

The original radio is still in it. Not sure if it still works though. I might keep that 'Sparkomatic' radio in there cause you know, who's gonna want to break in and steal that!? That thing is older than me! Its the first time I've even heard of 'Sparkomatic.'


"Sparkomatic was a USA-based manufacturer of car audio products. The company had their production facility in Milford PA. and sold car speakers, cassette players, radios and other audio accessories. Originally incorporated in 1953 as Sparkomatic Corporation, it first operated primarily as a local wholesale distributor of automobile aftermarket parts. By 1961 the company had started to sell products with their own Spark-O-Matic brand name, and the product line included aftermarket car transmission shifters and related automotive accessories such as tachometers and oil gauges. In 1968 the company branched into the car audio accessories business with a line of FM car radios, speakers and related accessories. Cars in the US were normally sold with only AM radio as standard equipment until the late 1980s. FM radio and cassette players were optional. By the mid-1970s the company had become better known for their car audio products and accessories, though they continued to sell other non-audio accessories for a short time longer.

Sparkomatic was at that time primarily a vendor of low to mid-range car audio products, with some that would be considered quite odd ball these days, like the device that converted an 8 track into a quadrophonic unit. By the latter half of the 1970s, they expanded into other car-related accessories such as digital dashboard clocks and CB radios. A few years later they also attempted a foray into high-end car audio, branded as Amplidyne. By the latter half of the 1980s, their automobile accessories where folded into a new brand called “Kenco”, and by the early 1990s they had exited the market segment altogether.

At the beginning of the 1990s, the company entered the home audio market and created a new brand called Sennet or “Sennet Concepts” that in addition to being used on audio and home theatre speakers was also used on car audio speakers that were marketed in segment a step higher than Sparkomatic; this was ultimately not successful and thus short-lived; the company continued in the home audio business though, but using the original brand.

In 1992 the company decided to purchase Altec Lansing from Telex. Sparkomatic was widely considered low-end, K-Mart junk, so the acquisition of Altec Lansing gave Sparkomatic a jolt of new respect among the public. In 1992 Altec Lansing moved to join Sparkomatic in Milford, Pennsylvania, and began building a new line of car and home loudspeakers. The home loudspeakers had solid-walnut cabinets which were sourced locally in Pennsylvania. Altec Lansing was one of the only companies at the time to build its own cabinets and develop and build its own drive units, all under one roof. In 1998 Altec Lansing introduced the very first sound bar/subwoofer system called Voice of the Digital Theatre but didn't follow up with any other models.

In 2000 the Altec Lansing and Sparkomatic merger was completed under the Altec Lansing name and they dropped the Sparkomatic name altogether."

REF: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparkomatic
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Posted 2017-10-24 1:21 PM (#550947 - in reply to #550769)
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Congratulations. The original choke is kind of a pain in the neck on these because it uses exhaust gas from the exhaust manifold and routes it up to the choke with an asbestos coated tube. So I would keep the manual choke on there until you swap out the carburetor for a newer version (with a small inlet so you can use the original air cleaner). I recommend that you pull the door handle, get the proper key made for your door lock by a competent locksmith and then check to see if it works in your ignition switch. Door locks are extremely expensive if you have to replace them so you don't want to mess with changing the key for them in case something goes wrong. Also, there is a good chance that the ignition switch still uses the same key as the doors so that may be all you need to do.

If you do find some Saratoga 2-tone trim, you had better grab it. It is hard to find and in demand. When you find an original air cleaner (Ebay is the best place) let me know and I can give you dimensions for how to make the brackets that hold it up.
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71charger_fan
Posted 2017-10-25 1:39 PM (#551020 - in reply to #550769)
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Cool car. I remember stopping to look at one of these back in the late '70s that was sitting in a front yard with a for sale sign on it up in Maine. Shockingly, being Maine, it wasn't rusty. It just didn't run. I didn't have the resources at the time to deal with a non-running car, so I passed on it. I had recently sold my '59 Dodge at the time. Bought it for $300, sold it for $600. The guy that bought it sold it for $1200 and bought it back months later for $600, so he essentially got it for free.
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