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Elite Veteran Posts: 1018 Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin | when did the torqueflite trans A-466 " Push the gear shift button to engage starter" come about and how many years did it last ? I recall maybe 57 and 58 had this . Thanks !
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9912 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . For sure 1957 and 1958 Chryslers and Dodges (NOT Desotos OR Plymouths), as documented here: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=74501&... There are at least three key components to the neutral starting switch system: 1. The three terminal starter ignition switch: PN 1770 040 2. The neutral starting vacuum switch: PN 1770 093 also known as an Autolite (brand) 14406 A 3. The shifter box with the starter switch attached to the back: PN 1739 173 I checked for those three components in 1959 and 1960 and the only one of the three that showed up in 59 and 60 was in 1959 when the neutral starting vacuum switch does show up for 1959 Plymouths and Dodges. But there is no sign of the other two key components and, without them, there is no neutral starting. The vacuum switch is a safety item, i.e. with the engine running, you can NOT engage the starter, so I can see that being perhaps an option. I am running one on my 56 Dodge and it does work to prevent idiots from damaging the ring gear. :P At least that is what I think. Edited by 56D500boy 2023-06-08 12:09 PM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9684 Location: So. Cal | It definitely started in 1957 and included the Imperial as well. And based on this picture of a '59 Chrysler dash, I would say it didn't continue on in 1959. (1959 Chrysler Windsor Dash.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1959 Chrysler Windsor Dash.jpg (125KB - 40 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 4043 Location: Connecticut | One of the biggest mysteries is why they implemented this in the first place. Must've been some newly-appointed manager trying to impress his bosses. To muddy things up a bit, I believe that in '58, push-to-start for Desoto may have only been for Torqueflite. Powerflite may have used key-start. Dave can research this, if he's interested. Yes, push-to-start was gone after '58. Ron Edited by ronbo97 2023-06-08 1:50 PM | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9684 Location: So. Cal | DeSoto never received the neutral start button, even with the torqueflite. None of my '58 DeSoto's have this feature. | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9912 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Powerflite - 2023-06-08 11:08 AM DeSoto never received the neutral start button, even with the torqueflite. None of my '58 DeSoto's have this feature. Based on the research that I have done on this topic, I agree, no 57 or 58 Desotos ever had this feature from the factory, Powerflite or Torqueflite, no matter. As to why it was offered in the first place, that is open to speculation. (??) Why it was dropped in 59, more speculation, but I would image that somebody finally said that "It's a gimmick and it isn't worth the extra production cost, so let's drop it (without fanfare). Shh...." Edited by 56D500boy 2023-06-08 3:44 PM | ||
ronbo97 |
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Expert Posts: 4043 Location: Connecticut | Powerflite - 2023-06-08 2:08 PM DeSoto never received the neutral start button, even with the torqueflite. None of my '58 DeSoto's have this feature. My typo. I meant Dodge not Desoto. I shouldn't do this while working. Ron | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9912 Location: Lower Mainland BC | ronbo97 - 2023-06-08 12:59 PM Powerflite - 2023-06-08 2:08 PM DeSoto never received the neutral start button, even with the torqueflite. None of my '58 DeSoto's have this feature. My typo. I meant Dodge not Desoto. I shouldn't do this while working. Ron So it should have been: ronbo97 - 2023-06-08 10:47 AM To muddy things up a bit, I believe that in '58, push-to-start for DODGE may have only been for Torqueflite. Powerflite may have used key-start. Dave can research this, if he's interested. Yes, push-to-start was gone after '58. Ron I think that the listing for the shifter box with the starter switch at the rear posted above indicates that it was only for Torqueflite. I just did a search on "w/Back Up Light and Starter SWITCH" regarding the shifter box and the only one that shows up is the 1739 173 assembly for the 57-58 Dodges and Chryslers (and Imperials) (all V8s, all Torqueflites). Nothing shows up for Powerflites or 6 cylinder cars. Edited by 56D500boy 2023-06-08 4:27 PM | ||
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