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56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9969 Location: Lower Mainland BC | 1960fury - 2021-11-17 3:06 PM So its a fake "old" picture, shame on me, I didn't notice. Don't get your Höschen in a bunch there, Sid. Nobody said it was a "fake" old photo. He said: NicksGarage - 2021-11-17 10:03 AM Those look like the wire wheels that came on 1980s Lincolns. Big difference between "look like" and "are". Maybe the 1980's Lincoln wheels looked like 1960 Chrysler/Desoto aftermarket wheels? Just sayin' Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-17 8:11 PM | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13062 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | This is a very nice photo, but it's not that old. This doesn't matter at all, it's keeping the thread alive. If I recall correctly, the photo has been posted here before and we discussed it as well back then. The give-away is the louvers that has fallen off on the rear panel trim. I know this since I owned a '59 New Yorker. The louvers are fixated by pot metal studs that are staked. Water, salt corrods the studs and eventually, the will start to fall off. That would not have happened during the first decade of the car, maybe the second decade. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | 56D500boy - 2021-11-17 8:10 PM 1960fury - 2021-11-17 3:06 PM So its a fake "old" picture, shame on me, I didn't notice. Don't get your Höschen in a bunch there, Sid. Nobody said it was a "fake" old photo. He said: NicksGarage - 2021-11-17 10:03 AM Those look like the wire wheels that came on 1980s Lincolns. Big difference between "look like" and "are". Maybe the 1980's Lincoln wheels looked like 1960 Chrysler/Desoto aftermarket wheels? Just sayin' :) ? Did I say that? I said it is a fake "old" picture since cast aluminum wheels of that style and narrow whitewalls weren't available during the FL era and since the rest of the scenery is made to look 50s, it is a faked picture and I really didn't notice. Got it? Edited by 1960fury 2021-11-18 10:27 AM | ||
wizard |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13062 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | In Sweden that's called "spitting on a given dish" Sid | ||
GaryS |
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Expert Posts: 1207 Location: Ponder, TX | Their clothing looks mid-sixties to early-seventies, though their hairstyles look a little earlier. I think early sixties was about the time narrow whitewalls became popular, along with red-lines and other odd tire trim. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | GaryS - 2021-11-18 4:01 PM Their clothing looks mid-sixties to early-seventies, though their hairstyles look a little earlier. I think early sixties was about the time narrow whitewalls became popular, along with red-lines and other odd tire trim. Yes, 62/63 narrow whitewalls, Imo they look ghastly on a fl. My guess it is 1990+ picture, as the wheels are late 70s+ and the scenery is made like a family picture, or from a brochure. No such thing in the 80s+ with a brand new looking Forwardlook car. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | 56 Belvedere CVT in a nice color combo (56belv60s.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56belv60s.jpg (51KB - 200 downloads) | ||
NicksGarage |
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Expert Posts: 1223 Location: Ramona, CA | 1960fury - 2021-11-17 3:06 PM So its a fake "old" picture, shame on me, I didn't notice. Sorry, wasn't trying to stir anything up. My bad. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | NicksGarage - 2021-11-19 10:26 AM 1960fury - 2021-11-17 3:06 PM So its a fake "old" picture, shame on me, I didn't notice. Sorry, wasn't trying to stir anything up. My bad. You didn't, I was making fun, since I hate new pictures in this thread | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | 1957/58? Hellcat Edited by 1960fury 2021-11-19 10:54 AM (pl57.jpg) Attachments ---------------- pl57.jpg (43KB - 201 downloads) | ||
Apollo 61 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 771 | 61 rollover Attachments ---------------- 372353FE-059B-49D8-9903-0591A2086C44.jpeg (14KB - 231 downloads) | ||
mstrug |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6520 Location: Newark, Texas (Fort Worth) | Family BBQ: (58plybbq1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 58plybbq1.jpg (82KB - 198 downloads) | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | . (60chrcvt.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 60chrcvt.jpg (77KB - 202 downloads) | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | Tel Aviv 1974 (TelAviv1974.jpg) Attachments ---------------- TelAviv1974.jpg (43KB - 211 downloads) | ||
Skelly1958 |
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Regular Posts: 86 Location: MN | '58 Belvedere (1958 Plymouth Seat Belt.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1958 Plymouth Seat Belt.jpg (190KB - 207 downloads) | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | Great picture (57dsaunt.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 57dsaunt.jpg (65KB - 201 downloads) | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . Jet Black over Cloud White paint scheme: (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (65KB - 199 downloads) | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | frwl - 2021-11-22 2:25 PM . Jet Black over Cloud White paint scheme: Nice!!! | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . Spring Green paint scheme (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (102KB - 195 downloads) | ||
58 DESOTOS RULE |
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Expert Posts: 2308 Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | Somebody had some money in the family. There are 2 1957 Lincoln Premieres mixed in with the 1958 Plymouths. Either car would be desireable today. (Lincolns and Plymouths.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Lincolns and Plymouths.jpg (82KB - 192 downloads) | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | Skelly1958 - 2021-11-20 10:57 PM '58 Belvedere That looks even fancier than a Beleveder. Could it be a Fury interior? | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9969 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Lancer Mike - 2021-11-28 5:01 PM Skelly1958 - 2021-11-20 10:57 PM '58 Belvedere That looks even fancier than a Beleveder. Could it be a Fury interior? Don't think so REFERENCE: Edited by 56D500boy 2021-11-28 11:17 PM | ||
Viper Guy |
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Expert Posts: 2004 Location: Branson, MO | The Fury above is a ‘57. | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9969 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Viper Guy - 2021-11-28 7:26 PM The Fury above is a ‘57. Oops. Got that from Hagerty and missed the lack of 4 full headlights = 58. Fixed now. | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . (1.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 1.JPG (134KB - 192 downloads) | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . I just have noyiced: The two 1958 Plymouths, but the tail lights of white Saratoga on the upper deck appears as 1957... Looks like this picture has been made approximately in fall of 1957, when the 1957 models were unsold yet while the 1958 models have been launched | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . "This here is the best car I ever owned. Bought her in September 1957. Back then, that's when you got your new model year, in September. All summer long they'd show you pictures of cars under hoods and cars under tarps until you were fair dyin t'know what they looked like underneath. Not like now." His voice dripped contempt for the debased times he had lived to see. "Brand-new, she was. Had the smell of a brand-new car, and that's about the finest smell in the world." https://www.bookfrom.net/stephen-king/31717-christine.html | ||
Viper Guy |
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Expert Posts: 2004 Location: Branson, MO | These cars may not be transported to new car dealers. Notice all have the wheel covers on which were not installed going to dealers and the Imperial on the top has the windows down. Edited by Viper Guy 2021-11-29 10:37 AM | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7453 Location: northern germany | 58 DESOTOS RULE - 2021-11-28 10:11 AM Somebody had some money in the family. There are 2 1957 Lincoln Premieres mixed in with the 1958 Plymouths. Either car would be desireable today. Get some old mags and check the prices of @1957 finned cars in 1962... | ||
NicksGarage |
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Expert Posts: 1223 Location: Ramona, CA | Viper Guy - 2021-11-29 7:35 AM These cars may not be transported to new car dealers. Notice all have the wheel covers on which were not installed going to dealers and the Imperial on the top has the windows down. Yes, that picture has always bugged me. Might be dealer trade cars. Reading old car newspaper car ads there are lots of them for executive cars being offered at the end of the year. | ||
Lancer Mike |
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Location: The Mile High City | The truck looks like a White Freightliner, but I can't tell the year on those things. | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . Order Code 375: Bendix Electronic Fuel Injection for 1958 Chrysler 300 D (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (166KB - 197 downloads) | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (220KB - 179 downloads) | ||
58DeSoDodge59 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1125 Location: Wild Wonderful | What the heck is that? You talk about a car that was put together with other car parts... Plymouth door handles. '58 Dodge tail lights. And a quarter panel from a Dodge Station wagon. What's going on? | ||
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Location: Bjorneborg, Finland | It's a 1959 Dodge TAXI cab model with special "easy-entrance" doors etc.. (1959 Dodge Taxi.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1959 Dodge Taxi.jpg (237KB - 172 downloads) | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9969 Location: Lower Mainland BC | 58DeSoDodge59 - 2021-12-29 7:07 PM What the heck is that? You talk about a car that was put together with other car parts... Plymouth door handles. '58 Dodge tail lights. And a quarter panel from a Dodge Station wagon. What's going on? Might have 59 Plymouth Doors (??). Certain the front part of the rear quarter is 59 Dodge wagon - *BUT* the rear part is sedan. Agree taillights seem to be 58 Dodge. It could be simply a very early production pilot car put together for the advertising department. I have seen 56 Dodges in the brochures running 55 Dodge push button (not fridge door levers) so that *COULD* be the case with this 59 Dodge taxi. Edited by 56D500boy 2021-12-30 9:40 PM (59DodgeTaxiAdvertVs59DodgePartsBookImage.jpg) (59DodgeTaxiAdvertVs59PlymouthPartsBookImage.jpg) (59DodgeTaxiAdvertVs59DodgePartsBookImage_Wagon.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 59DodgeTaxiAdvertVs59DodgePartsBookImage.jpg (152KB - 177 downloads) 59DodgeTaxiAdvertVs59PlymouthPartsBookImage.jpg (134KB - 171 downloads) 59DodgeTaxiAdvertVs59DodgePartsBookImage_Wagon.jpg (102KB - 174 downloads) | ||
NicksGarage |
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Expert Posts: 1223 Location: Ramona, CA | Here's some evidence of Chrysler building special bodies as preproduction units. This is from the filmstrip for the 1960 Chrysler vehicle lineup. 4-door sedan on one side and 4-door hardtop on the other. Of course this would be fairly easy since they could use production parts on each side. https://youtu.be/MTVlXXxva24 Edited by NicksGarage 2021-12-31 2:54 PM (hardtopsedan2.jpg) (hardtopsedan.jpg) Attachments ---------------- hardtopsedan2.jpg (124KB - 167 downloads) hardtopsedan.jpg (122KB - 172 downloads) | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Replying to the above pictures of the "hybrid sedan / hardtop, The New Yorker sedan was never offered as a sedan with the sky-high rear window, although there are some promotional photos showing them with the big rear window. The only 4 door sedan that got that sky high rear window was the US built DeSoto Adventurer. Here's a promo picture of a New Yorker sedan with the big back window. They obviously built a few pre-production models that way, but pulled the plug on them at last minute. Edited by imopar380 2022-01-05 6:28 PM (20121213134041482_0001 (a2).jpg) Attachments ---------------- 20121213134041482_0001 (a2).jpg (228KB - 171 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | This one is directly from the 1960 Parts Manual showing a New Yorker sedan with the big rear window!! Never go to production. (four door sedan large rear window.JPG) Attachments ---------------- four door sedan large rear window.JPG (102KB - 163 downloads) | ||
normsclassicradio |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 309 Location: Kalispell, MT USA | The best thing about my 64 880... imopar380 - 2022-01-05 4:25 PM Replying to the above pictures of the "hybrid sedan / hardtop, The New Yorker sedan was never offered as a sedan with the sky-high rear window, although there are some promotional photos showing them with the big rear window. The only 4 door sedan that got that sky high rear window was the US built DeSoto Adventurer. Here's a promo picture of a New Yorker sedan with the big back window. They obviously built a few pre-production models that way, but pulled the plug on them at last minute. (flathead salvage dodge.jpg) Attachments ---------------- flathead salvage dodge.jpg (179KB - 163 downloads) | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | normsclassicradio - 2022-01-05 3:31 PM The best thing about my 64 880... imopar380 - 2022-01-05 4:25 PM Replying to the above pictures of the "hybrid sedan / hardtop, The New Yorker sedan was never offered as a sedan with the sky-high rear window, although there are some promotional photos showing them with the big rear window. The only 4 door sedan that got that sky high rear window was the US built DeSoto Adventurer. Here's a promo picture of a New Yorker sedan with the big back window. They obviously built a few pre-production models that way, but pulled the plug on them at last minute. Your 880 looks great with that big back window! The 880 sedans got that big window in 1964. | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Another pre-production car - this 1960 Polara shows the top body side molding extending all the way back to the end of the tail light. That didn't make it into productions for obvious reasons, when removing the tail light housing. (Polara2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Polara2.jpg (244KB - 166 downloads) | ||
NicksGarage |
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Expert Posts: 1223 Location: Ramona, CA | imopar380 - 2022-01-05 3:30 PM This one is directly from the 1960 Parts Manual showing a New Yorker sedan with the big rear window!! Never go to production. It looks like that's the combo hardtop/sedan as well. | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | NicksGarage - 2022-01-05 4:49 PM imopar380 - 2022-01-05 3:30 PM This one is directly from the 1960 Parts Manual showing a New Yorker sedan with the big rear window!! Never go to production. It looks like that's the combo hardtop/sedan as well. I just noticed that, as well ! | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (91KB - 171 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1049 Location: PL / EU | . (w.JPG) Attachments ---------------- w.JPG (138KB - 164 downloads) | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . No fin end chrome inserts? (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (97KB - 169 downloads) | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9969 Location: Lower Mainland BC | frwl - 2022-01-08 12:41 PM . No fin end chrome inserts? I *think* that the Chromed pot metal inserts were only standard on the Custom Royals. The standard Coronets inserts were painted. Not sure about the Royals. Maybe painted was standard and chrome was optional (??) REFERENCE: https://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/dodge/59dg1/59dg1.html Edited by 56D500boy 2022-01-08 4:21 PM | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 1935 | . Sorry Dave. It is option for all models: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=68488&... (1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1.jpg (116KB - 170 downloads) | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9969 Location: Lower Mainland BC | frwl - 2022-01-08 1:45 PM. Sorry Dave. It is option for all models: Sorry Igor. I would bet a few $$ that the chromed pot metal was standard on at least the 1959 Custom Royals. But hey... I could be wrong. Just never seen a 59 Custom Royal without the chrome. Almost never (ever??) see a Coronet with anything but painted pot metal. Edited by 56D500boy 2022-01-08 6:21 PM | ||
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