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ronbo97
Posted 2010-12-05 9:25 PM (#252050)
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Posted 2010-12-05 9:51 PM (#252053 - in reply to #252050)
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..........and then some. The word BEAUTIFUL doesn't even come close to describe this fine piece of rolling art. Amazing.



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Posted 2010-12-05 11:48 PM (#252058 - in reply to #252050)
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Ohhhhhhhhh man, I love the color combo on this.
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Posted 2010-12-06 5:00 AM (#252073 - in reply to #252058)
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OH HELL YESsssssssss... Now that is the ONE... Best i go check my Lottery Ticket.
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Posted 2010-12-06 7:35 AM (#252076 - in reply to #252050)
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That'sa beaute, for sure. Any guesses as to what it will go for?
Wonder if it started out life as a "Super D 500"?
I was told that the "Only" Dash pad colour available was black, is that true?
I hope She makes her way back to the US (even if she is/will be a "trailer Queen"

Gary
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hemidave
Posted 2010-12-06 8:10 AM (#252081 - in reply to #252050)
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From reading the ad, it appears as though the D500 option might have been added, amongst others. I asked for pics of the cowl tag and VIN plate, and I'll post them here and let the experts decode them. Then, we will know.
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Posted 2010-12-06 8:19 AM (#252082 - in reply to #252081)
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1959Dodge
Posted 2010-12-06 8:19 AM (#252083 - in reply to #252050)
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Thanks hemidave.
I'm having SEVERE withdrawal symptons from mine being in the shop

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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2010-12-06 11:14 AM (#252097 - in reply to #252083)
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This Dodge is stunning!

I love the colors,and the interior is beautiful.

You'd have to have deep pockets for this one.
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Posted 2010-12-06 12:49 PM (#252115 - in reply to #252083)
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1959Dodge - 2010-12-07 5:19 AM

Thanks hemidave.
I'm having SEVERE withdrawal symptons from mine being in the shop

Gary


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Here's your chance to pick up a spare for "back up" !
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parat11
Posted 2010-12-06 1:25 PM (#252121 - in reply to #252050)
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Two comments. This car have been offered at 220 000 USD. I would check ten times everything on that car as many options might be added and not be original.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2010-12-06 3:07 PM (#252133 - in reply to #252121)
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I agree with Max - if the build sheet shows all of those goodies on the car from the factory, maybe $220,000 could be (hack...cough...sputter) reasonable. If this is a tribute car, the fair price could be half that! Especially if it was not a Super D500 or a Custom Royal to begin with.

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Lancer Mike
Posted 2010-12-06 3:11 PM (#252135 - in reply to #252133)
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If it did have all of those options from the factory, it might be the most loaded '59 Dodge I have ever seen!

...hmmm it does need air conditioning!
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Posted 2010-12-06 4:02 PM (#252148 - in reply to #252050)
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So the Owner is BO in Arizona, Who has Restored many Cars before..
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Posted 2010-12-06 4:03 PM (#252149 - in reply to #252050)
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I just received a pic of the buildsheet. For some reason, I can't copy and paste it to a reply here. Any suggestions? I sent it to Mike, so he may post it shortly.
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Posted 2010-12-06 4:04 PM (#252150 - in reply to #252050)
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Thank you! The -59 Dodge is a beautiful car, I agree. In the -80's when you could still find them for sale I had 5 convertibles and I restored them all. Two were red/white, two were tutone pink and coral and I did one in tutone green, my favorite color combo. Today I could not afford one if I found one for sale. The last one I found, about one year ago, a totally unrestored car needing restoration went for almost $100.000! I do own 2 1958 Dodge convertibles and about 20 years ago I installed 59 quarterpanels on one of them. I could not make up my mind whether to restore the car as a 59 "clone" or redo it as a 58 but 2 months ago I dusted it off the car and got going on it again and I will do it as a 59 since I already have a 58. At one point I owned almost 200 1957-61 Mopars and I still have parts cars to use in the restoration of that convertible so it will be relativly easy to build the car. Regards Bo.
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Posted 2010-12-06 4:20 PM (#252151 - in reply to #252050)
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So, if I understand correctly, he will turn a rare, genuine 1958 Dodge convertible into a 1959 clone, because he already has another '58?????


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Posted 2010-12-06 5:26 PM (#252162 - in reply to #252151)
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soiouz - 2010-12-06 4:20 PM

So, if I understand correctly, he will turn a rare, genuine 1958 Dodge convertible into a 1959 clone, because he already has another '58?????


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Pretty scary
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ronbo97
Posted 2010-12-06 5:34 PM (#252163 - in reply to #252151)
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I know Bo and have sold him a number of 59 Dodge parts for his convertibles. Apparently, the car is in Sweden and he's selling it for the owner.

Changing the 58 to a 59 is kinda crazy, IMHO.

Car will reach around 100K, then stall. I think this guy is just looking to establish a value or to let folks know it's available. After the car doesn't sell, someone will contact him and make an offer. So he will save ebay Final Value fees.

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Posted 2010-12-06 6:22 PM (#252167 - in reply to #252050)
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Interesting! Aivar's Red & White Convertible (Now Börje's), did not belong to Bo, Aivar did have Bo do some of the restoration, but as I recall, Aivar finished it. So maybe there are 3 red & white ones running around?

Gary
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ronbo97
Posted 2010-12-06 7:28 PM (#252177 - in reply to #252167)
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1959Dodge - 2010-12-06 6:22 PM Interesting! Aivar's Red & White Convertible (Now Börje's), did not belong to Bo, Aivar did have Bo do some of the restoration, but as I recall, Aivar finished it. So maybe there are 3 red & white ones running around? Gary

Aivar's car was found by Bo in Oregon, purchased by Aivar and restored by Bo (source: MCG - Sept '94).

Ron

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ronbo97
Posted 2010-12-06 7:38 PM (#252182 - in reply to #252177)
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Dave sent me the build sheet. Here's the deal:

  • 1959 Dodge CRL conv
  • Schedule date of 9/4/58, built 9/10/58.
  • Sold in NY-metro area.
  • All-white car with black conv top.
  • P/S, torqueflite, solex, undercoat, 2.93 rear.
  • option groups: 2 Radio-Heater group (heater, b/u lights, left o/s mirror, day.night mirror, radio), 4 Convenience group (air foam seat, variable wipers, w/s washer, handbrake warning light, map light, glove box light, visor vanity mirror, trunk light), 5 Appearance group (plastic deluxe steering wheel, wheel covers, stone shields, clock)
  • VIN M352100580

 

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1959Dodge
Posted 2010-12-06 8:45 PM (#252193 - in reply to #252050)
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So the car was originally a 361 Ron? (IE, not a D 500), No power seats, or swingout, or power windows?
Personally, I like the car better, as it is now, as I do mine, which originally was an all white Coronet Convertible
with a blue top and most likely a 326.

Thanks for the info Ron.
By the way, is yours a True D500, (I seem to recall it is)---but I don't brag anymore about my recall abilities!



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Posted 2010-12-06 10:17 PM (#252216 - in reply to #252150)
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Rebels-59 Coronet - 2010-12-07 1:04 PM

Quote from Seller
I do own 2 1958 Dodge convertibles and about 20 years ago I installed 59 quarterpanels on one of them. I could not make up my mind whether to restore the car as a 59 "clone" or redo it as a 58 but 2 months ago I dusted it off the car and got going on it again and I will do it as a 59 since I already have a 58. .


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why not make that almost IMPOSSIBLE 58 Dodge ragtop into another 57 Chevy ? I could puke !
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ronbo97
Posted 2010-12-06 10:24 PM (#252223 - in reply to #252193)
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1959Dodge - 2010-12-06 8:45 PM So the car was originally a 361 Ron? (IE, not a D 500), No power seats, or swingout, or power windows? Personally, I like the car better, as it is now, as I do mine, which originally was an all white Coronet Convertible with a blue top and most likely a 326. Thanks for the info Ron. By the way, is yours a True D500, (I seem to recall it is)---but I don't brag anymore about my recall abilities! Gary :stressed:

That's correct. None of those options were originally on the car. This resto is one of the best I've seen, especially considering the car was really rough to begin with. In my 59 Dodge convertible database, it says that this car was a 'butchered' car !

My conv started life with a 326. When finished, it will have...a 326.

Ron
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1959Dodge
Posted 2010-12-06 10:28 PM (#252226 - in reply to #252050)
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Well that shows how lousy my memory is, somehow I got the idea your car was a Custom Royal Convertible which of course would have had a 361? Am I right in assuming it is a Coronet?

Gary

(PS, not sure I wanna see what your data base says bout mine) LOL

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ronbo97
Posted 2010-12-06 10:53 PM (#252234 - in reply to #252226)
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1959Dodge - 2010-12-06 10:28 PM Well that shows how lousy my memory is, somehow I got the idea your car was a Custom Royal Convertible which of course would have had a 361? Am I right in assuming it is a Coronet? Gary (PS, not sure I wanna see what your data base says bout mine) LOL

Yep. It's a Coronet. 

Your car: white Coronet conv with a blue top. Blue interior. Sold in the Philadelphia area.

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Posted 2010-12-07 10:26 AM (#252280 - in reply to #252223)
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This '59 was restored well-known Swedish restorer and Mopar repro parts producer, T.Fredriksson, in the '90s (I know he owns an outstanding '58 DeSoto Adventurer Conv.). The car was featured in Power Magazine (Swedish) 4/1997. The article says lot of effort was spent, because it had a D-500 (no mention if it was equipped so when new). He already had lot of NOS parts in stock. Most of the options listed what the car has now, "naturally" (that was the word they used) even power windows and seat.. and also can be mentioned swivel-seat.



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2010-12-07 10:32 AM (#252282 - in reply to #252280)
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Hi Dave - I was so busy with Josh McDaniels firing that I did not post your picture. It looks like Ron already deciphered it.



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Posted 2010-12-07 5:53 PM (#252340 - in reply to #252050)
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For kicks, I asked what it would take for someone to buy it right now........I was told... "over" 200K
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2010-12-07 7:10 PM (#252351 - in reply to #252340)
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Yeah, I think the old car market is getting more persnickety about litigation, value, and originality. Since prices have gone through the roof, buyers and sellers have to be aware of full disclosure if a vehicle is different from the build sheet. When that type of money is on the line, attorneys may have a field day if anything is not up to snuff.
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Posted 2010-12-07 7:28 PM (#252356 - in reply to #252050)
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You're right Mike. It's one thing to pay a reasonable price for a real conv, plus add for desirable options, but not pay the price of a real D500 with those options. Would a real one so equipped be worth that much? I know it might depend on personal tastes.
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Posted 2010-12-07 7:39 PM (#252357 - in reply to #252050)
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somebody ought to post on Ebay, what the car is? , or at least ask what the car was?
You are "Right On Target" with your comment here, Mike, If this is a tribute car, the fair price could be half that! Especially if it was not a Super D500 or a Custom Royal to begin with.

I recall the red and white one was temporaily pulled from ebay whilst the seller wrote a more accurate description.

What ya thinks, Just let some "Rich Succer" get burned or------

Gary
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Posted 2010-12-07 9:19 PM (#252369 - in reply to #252351)
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Lancer Mike - 2010-12-07 7:10 PM Yeah, I think the old car market is getting more persnickety about litigation, value, and originality. Since prices have gone through the roof, buyers and sellers have to be aware of full disclosure if a vehicle is different from the build sheet. When that type of money is on the line, attorneys may have a field day if anything is not up to snuff.

That's why folks selling cars on ebay and elsewhere add the disclaimer, 'car is sold as is, where is'. This blanket statement will make it near impossible for a buyer to claim something isn't correct or up to snuff.

Ron

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Posted 2010-12-07 9:48 PM (#252372 - in reply to #252369)
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This was a very early-built car, too!

Shoulda stayed OEM, dammit...maybe the new owner will retro-fit it back to original, uh-huh, on 4/1/11 !

And Ron, that's why this Board is such an invaluable public service, regarding cars that are being
advertised 4-sale....






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Posted 2010-12-07 10:04 PM (#252378 - in reply to #252050)
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Well , I guess we'll just let it "play out", The potential buyers of the red and white 59 got lucky, cause both Aivar and Börje decided to take an "Active Approach" on the somwhat misleading (Original) description of that car, alto had people read the questions asked, they would have known that (that car was also originally a 361) and not a "True D 500", much less a "Super D 500.

I debated painting the new engine silver, and painting the valve covers red, and get the D 500 Emblems.
But I like the red paint and the chrome valve covers better (Personal Preference) so that's what it will be.

Not all of us enjoy a White "Semi Stripper Model", and I bought mine to drive and enjoy, so there is no way in
"Bishop" that this car will go back to a white Coronet, with a bench seat, No AC etc etc---long as I'm around!@!!!

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Posted 2010-12-07 10:27 PM (#252383 - in reply to #252378)
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Yeah, but if you had two of them, you could cut one up and make a camper or something out of it !

The old car scene is "growing" (if you can call it that). Everyone has been bellyaching for years about
these cars not getting recognition, and it was warned "be careful what you ask for ... ". Well, now we get
to enjoy the fruits of such recognition, like cars being unaffordable to many hobbyists and a constant
wrangling over ethics between those who probably would have preferred these remain $1000- cars and
those who want to use them as a tool to get rich.

I never wanted my car to be worth anything. Its "value" was in the "art" of rolling sculpture. I never
worried about leaving it parked somewhere. People noticed, but no money was involved. Now I will be
concerned about theft of theft of parts and the whole she-bang is no longer a care-free pleasure of just
driving a neat old car. Imagine taking this Dodge and doing a cross-country road trip and leaving it parked
on some dead-end mountain road while you go hike along the coast for a couple days. You'd come back
to find it gone or missing parts. Pretty sad.

My greatest joy with old cars like these was just seeing them going down the road, at the grocery store,
at the movie theatre. Looks like that experience is becoming a thing of the past.
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1959Dodge
Posted 2010-12-07 10:43 PM (#252384 - in reply to #252050)
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Hope not, Doc, but I suspects my 59 is the most driven 59 vert and maybe even the most driven 59 Dodge.
It's been a good six years for me and the car.
Too bad there aren't more like you, Doc, that don't like 59 Dodges
then I would hafta worrry about somebody messing with it!!!!

Gary
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-12-08 1:18 AM (#252410 - in reply to #252384)
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If I found it, I might chop it up and make a 58 out of it !

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Jessica
Posted 2010-12-08 2:16 AM (#252414 - in reply to #252050)
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I don't think it's anybody's "duty" to butt in and "warn" someone that this is not a true D500 car. If someone is willing to spend 200K+ on the vehicle, it is going to be because they love the way it looks, not because they're convinced that it is a real D500. I think that if any of them were concerned about purchasing a real Super D500 car, they would have the common sense to ask the very questions that have been posted here, and asked the seller for the vital information pertaining to it's build specs. Then again, perhaps they have more money than brain power... but either way, they are getting a VERY nice car.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-12-08 5:34 AM (#252423 - in reply to #252414)
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I could not agree with you more, Jessica. However, there is more at play here than just that.

Those who post all the "science" about what makes a verifiable factory-built car operate from
a paradigm of "safety". Kinda like those people who keep Jesus in their back pocket, it is just a
mentality of finding a "safe" place in an otherwise uncertain world. I do not fault anyone for being
this way. In fact, I benefit GREATLY from the vast stores of knowledge put forth by these folks.
So, in my mind, I win either way we look at it.

But you are right, it is the job of no one but the buyer to research the product before getting the
wallet out. It is the responsibility of no third party to own the actions of said buyer, no matter how
much that third party may feel they are "doing good" by making the facts known. The buyer can
take such advisement or leave it. And like you said, maybe money comes easier to some than a
car like this and they would be perfectly happy driving it at 200K whether or not it left the factory
in the present condition. That is the buyer's choice. They may find it a challenge to get that money
back out of such a car when it comes time to sell, but maybe maybe that just isn't an issue for that
buyer. They want the car they see and that's the end of their concern on the subject.

Where we all lose is when these cars become so expensive - prices driven up by people for whom
money is no object - that they vanish from accessibility for the common folk who just love them for
the cars they are.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush ? Well, a 59 Dodge ragtop on the open road is worth
ten in a museum !
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Posted 2010-12-08 7:01 PM (#252501 - in reply to #252384)
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1959Dodge - 2010-12-07 10:43 PM

I suspects my 59 is the most driven 59 vert and maybe even the most driven 59 Dodge.


Whenever I am in OC, it seems I see Gary in his '59 at least once in passing, cruising around near Cal State Fullerton, Imperial Blvd. or the 57 or 91 Fwys., always with the top down and going as fast as possible without actually getting pulled over. I'll be out there over New Year's, will the engine be road ready by then?

Sparky
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1959Dodge
Posted 2010-12-08 7:56 PM (#252504 - in reply to #252050)
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Yep, it should be done before Christmas. We will have to take a little cruise to breakup xxx er "Break In" the new motor.

Look forward to seeing you then!

Gary
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d500neil
Posted 2010-12-09 8:05 PM (#252629 - in reply to #252050)
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So, your opinion, Jessica, is that if a person has no way of learning what makes a car a 'real' Original Equipment
manufacturer model, that is OK with you?

This message board concerns cars that are trying to be sold, by a person who presumably is trying to obtain as
much money as possible for his car.

If that person misrepresents the car's condition, equipment, or model-type, it is perfectly alright for the readers of this
message board to become educated about what is right, or wrong, about that car, in my opinion.

If an educated person wants to spend big-bux on a car, after he learns or knows about the car's true heritage and
history, that is his business.

If someone wants to try to get big-bux by mis-representing his car, he and his car are fair-game, on this message board, to be discussed and evaluated.






Edited by d500neil 2010-12-09 8:07 PM
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60 Plymouth
Posted 2010-12-09 10:21 PM (#252642 - in reply to #252050)
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So how is this guy pullin the wool on anyone? Did I read it wrong or did he not say a personal inspections are welcome and recomended. Now if I was spending 200k on a car I would be checking it out. but again it would not matter to me if it left that factory that way or not. It Awesome!!! I don't see anything wrong in how this is advertised. I was always told if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a duck


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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-12-09 10:29 PM (#252644 - in reply to #252642)
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you both have a valid point .... and this where the wires get crossed ..... you both have different definitions of
what defines "a duck".

For the "safety" minded person, that duck is what rolled out of the factory and holds a paper pedigree.

For others, "the duck" is what they see before them. No pedigree required.

Recognizing there are different paradigms in operation on a single subject makes this situation easy to understand.
Not easy to find any resolution between the two, but easy to understand.



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2010-12-10 2:34 PM (#252711 - in reply to #252644)
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The real "no-no" is to make one model from another. That does not appear to be the case here.
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1960ny
Posted 2010-12-10 2:58 PM (#252718 - in reply to #252711)
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I would never hesitate to add options to a car i own myself. Why would i have a car with manual Windows and seats when i can add the power options during my ownership?

And if that would decrease the value of the car, so may be it!
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wizard
Posted 2010-12-10 4:00 PM (#252725 - in reply to #252050)
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What! does the car loose value for added options? That means that I'll soon have to pay to get rid of mine

Edited by wizard 2010-12-10 4:02 PM
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d500neil
Posted 2010-12-10 4:11 PM (#252728 - in reply to #252725)
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What they're saying, Wiz, is that an original condition, unmolested car (a Survivor) would be more valuable than
one which has been arbitrarily painted red, has a non-correct velour interior, has a chromed-chainlink steering
wheel and 20" Bling wheels (or derivations/combinations of the above alterations on it).





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