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fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | just got this 58 dodge its heater delete radio delete manual steering manual brakes 6cyl 3 on the tree cant get much more basic (58Dodge11.jpg) (58Dodge12.jpg) (58Dodge14.jpg) (58Dodge15.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 58Dodge11.jpg (41KB - 101 downloads) 58Dodge12.jpg (35KB - 108 downloads) 58Dodge14.jpg (55KB - 100 downloads) 58Dodge15.jpg (51KB - 110 downloads) | ||
suburban61 |
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Expert Posts: 1480 Location: Australia | awww.... poor thing, needs a little love.... you gonna restore it? adriana | ||
ACESN8S |
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Veteran Posts: 238 Location: Westminster, Colorado | Didnt I see this on E-Bay ? You are a brave soul,a lot of cancer on this one. But with enough patience and parts ,it can be cool!! GOOD LUCK!!!! | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | Neat car! Would be sharp with a complete restoration, not likely you would ever see another. I am not used to seeing 2 door sedan bare bones Dodges, Plymouths seem to be more common. | ||
wbower3 |
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Walter passed away on Jul 29, 2014. We will miss you, Walt! Posts: 5358 Location: Heaven Above (Formerly Oklahoma City,OK) | Jeff, good luck. Man you gotta be abrute for punishment to take on that as a restoration project......................Walt | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | The car on Ebay was a 1957 D500 (single-4) Coro Club Coupe, with a Torqueflite. Believe it or don't, one real hard piece to locate (and maybe that's why IT'S been removed from this car!) is the small heater-hose block off plate on the firewall. I know of one 1957 D501 owner who has been looking for that particular block off plate (his is also a non-heater- option car) for years. This particular car may have the real distinction of being a completely option-less car!!! | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | yup this one was on ebay im usually a desoto guy but this lil lady caught my eye cant wait to get it home and see if i can save it from the pics it looks bery possible looked at a 57 sedan parts car tonight so we shall see ill post some more when i get this one home | ||
58 DESOTOS RULE |
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Expert Posts: 2308 Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | You have your work cut out for you that's a cinch. That Dodge is probably rusted out in all the usual places. I find it interesting though that it's such a basic car with no options to speak of. Not even a heater it appears so I would expect it didn't live all of its life in snowy New York State. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Did ya'll notice that the TOP of the hood, by the cowl area, has rusted-through!!!!??? I've never seen rust-thru in THAT area, before. | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | A weird place for rust through for sure, maybe a constant dripping on the hood when it was in storage? Probably most cost effective to replace the entire front clip if the rest of the car is able to be restored. | ||
Swept57 |
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | It dosen't even look to have had the outside mirror. That was an option as well up to at least 1962. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2308 Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | d500neil - 2008-11-11 6:01 PM Did ya'll notice that the TOP of the hood, by the cowl area, has rusted-through!!!!??? I've never seen rust-thru in THAT area, before. There's a big chunk rusted out of the forward lip too and I've never seen that either on a FL car. Usually it's the rockers, rear quarters and floor pans that go. If you look real closely he's got some issues with the inner fenders too - both sides have rust-through holes. Not impossible though to deal with if you're a good body man. | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Swept57 - 2008-11-12 8:05 PM It dosen't even look to have had the outside mirror. That was an option as well up to at least 1962. ********************************* Exterior side mirrors became Federally mandated in July of 1965, if memory serves. This sticks in my mind because an employer got a ticket for no mirror and beat it when he proved his car was made prior to that date. I think it was July 5th or 25th ? Anyway, his car was built just weeks before the mandate went into effect, and being an "original equipment" freak, he made a big deal of it. | ||
La tortuga |
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Regular Posts: 58 | I saw something similar to the rust on the front of this Dodge on a brand x car in a junk yard years ago that had a car battery set on top of it for years. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Until I'm proven wrong, I stand by my statement that THIS car is a 100% non-optionmobile. It's the only non-option car thgat I've ever encountered. It does not have OEM undercoating, either, and each outside rear view mirror was an option, too. | ||
SavySavoy |
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Veteran Posts: 155 | I thought my car was low optioned, but mine has a heater and radio. No outside mirrors, backup lights. But this one is less optioned than mine. I agree 0 options. Definately got his work "cut out" for him. Edited by SavySavoy 2008-11-12 5:41 PM | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | Are backup lights an option on 57-59 Dodges? If you don't have them what is in their place? a second tailight, or a lens with no bulb behind it? | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Yeah, back-up lights were an option; just for grins, I looked it up; just check-off option item # 375 and your car, TOO, could have the optional back-up lights (which were, otherwise, available at-no-extra-cost, as part of the Basic, and/or Radio accessory groups--most cars got one of those two groups, as they included that always-nice-to- have HEATER/defroster option, too.....) Yeah(ii): no back-up lights meant that you got TWO sets of brake lights. And(not mentioned yet), the 2-tone paint scheme was an option.....too, but: no extra charge for BLUE paint (there IS that!) Edited by d500neil 2008-11-12 7:45 PM | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | So, fast Desoto, will you check to see if your car has back up lights or just two sets of tailights? If your car truly is a no option car, I really think it should be slated for restoration if at all possible. | ||
Swept57 |
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | It almost looks like it was parked part-way into a garage with the front clip outside. And it does appear to have the rare rain-forest-canopy headliner option. | ||
ACESN8S |
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Veteran Posts: 238 Location: Westminster, Colorado | Yeah and a tree or something laying on the hood ? | ||
5859 |
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Expert Posts: 2932 Location: Lemoore CA | This car is just so interesting to me, I have found myself thinking about it several times throughout the day when I have been completely away from the computer. Same with that stripped down Desoto that someone had pictures of on here a year ago or so. It used to be owned by carjock. I wish this car was in better shape to start with for you, but maybe it won't be that bad(fingers crossed). | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | im picking it up ither tomarrow or sat i talked to the gent im buying it from and he told me it was in a barn that rotted around it and the hood and pass fender are where the water dripped on it here are some more pics he sent me jeff (58W510.jpg) (58W503.jpg) (58W502.jpg) (58W504.jpg) (58W513.jpg) (58W508.jpg) (58W515.jpg) (58W514.jpg) (58W501.jpg) (58W509.jpg) (58W511.jpg) (58W512.jpg) (58W520.jpg) (58W519.jpg) (58W521.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 58W510.jpg (298KB - 110 downloads) 58W503.jpg (282KB - 114 downloads) 58W502.jpg (257KB - 103 downloads) 58W504.jpg (203KB - 111 downloads) 58W513.jpg (198KB - 99 downloads) 58W508.jpg (220KB - 104 downloads) 58W515.jpg (225KB - 108 downloads) 58W514.jpg (233KB - 115 downloads) 58W501.jpg (284KB - 98 downloads) 58W509.jpg (140KB - 117 downloads) 58W511.jpg (251KB - 113 downloads) 58W512.jpg (256KB - 111 downloads) 58W520.jpg (152KB - 105 downloads) 58W519.jpg (149KB - 112 downloads) 58W521.jpg (151KB - 102 downloads) | ||
1955Coronado |
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Good gawd, Jeff - you'll be lucky if this baby doesn't have major frame issues if I'm seeing the front seat correctly. This thing needs everything and is barely a shell - I wish you the best of luck on this. You're a braver man than I. ' BTW, what ever happened to that '57 D-500 wagon & '57 Coronet ragtop you found in the defunct salvage yard/woods? | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | noone wanted them so i left them there the wagon still exists the conv was junked i think jeff | ||
1955Coronado |
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | fast59desoto - 2008-11-13 1:54 PM noone wanted them so i left them there the wagon still exists the conv was junked i think jeff Left them there? You mean you own them? The reason I ask is, if you're willing to take on a project of this magnitude, I'd think you'd have also pulled at least one of the two out of the yard - especially since they were close enough for you to go look at in person. | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | never bothered to buy ither i was going to sell the conv and buy the wagon or vice versa and sell them both but there were no interested parties so i didnt buy them saw the wagon the other day but dont know about the conv if anyones interested email me fast59desoto@hotmail.com jeff | ||
1955Coronado |
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Gotcha. So, what's your plan of action with the '58? I have no idea of your skills, but to restore this baby (or just to make it roadworthy) is definitely going to take A LOT! | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | i looked at a 57 parts car yesterday if i can get a front clip the majority of the rust work would be over ive got a set of 59 desoto floor pans i can put in it so we shall see im a collision repair tech and painter by trade but it all depends what it looks like when i clean it out and get it torn down id like to find a running motor and kind of do a budget build on it jeff (HPIM2435a.JPG) (HPIM2433a.JPG) (HPIM2432a.JPG) Attachments ---------------- HPIM2435a.JPG (34KB - 102 downloads) HPIM2433a.JPG (34KB - 104 downloads) HPIM2432a.JPG (269KB - 101 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Well, it looks like this car may/does have back-up lights [sigh]... I can not believe that the back-up lights would be the ONLY option that this car might have. If the B-U lights are 'there', there would have to be a little disc-like back-up switch incorporated into the manual shift linkage, somewhere. On the auto trans cars, that switch is mounted outboard on the push button housing, and is engaged by a small lever which is moved when the R button is pushed. I dunno how a manual shift mechanism would operate a back-up switch. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | The blue car's P/T plate looks to be in worse condition than is Ms. Belvie (non-existent, any more). As long as the stainless steel VIN plate exists, the factory's IBM build-card copy can be purchased, and, from its data a new P/T plate can be reconstructed. | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7810 Location: Williams California | d500neil - 2008-11-11 4:01 PM Did ya'll notice that the TOP of the hood, by the cowl area, has rusted-through!!!!??? I've never seen rust-thru in THAT area, before. I bought a '57 Windsor several years ago that was stored in a barn, an old tire had been set upon the hood. A barn owl nested in the rafters above the car, and FILLED the entire center of the tire with it's droppings and owl pellets. It rusted the center of the hood completely away. A '59 Coronet sedan I picked up in the redwood forest was completely covered in pine needles, and it's hood and fender tops were also rusted. ---John | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | hey john did you get that email i sent you? what do you have in the lines of parts for this anyleft overs from the wagon ? jeff | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7810 Location: Williams California | Hi Jeff, I have a '58 spring special 2-door sedan that has decent outer sheetmetal, as well as another wagon i have pilfered some parts from. I would have to agree with you that afer replacing the front group, the rest of the rust repairs would be fairly typical of most any FL car that was stored outside. ---John | ||
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Sounds reasonable, Jeff - a budget build for an original budget car. What about the lean towards the driver's side on that front seat, though? Is the floor completely rusted through and, as such, is there any frame issues? | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | well got it home and apart from the front clip and some rot in the front floor its not all that bad i found some doors and workin on a deal for them. anyone have a running 6cyl?? or how about front fenders and the panel that goes between them above the grille??? Edited by fast59desoto 2008-11-15 1:24 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 3155 Location: NY & VT | Dang Jeff - that's an ambitious project for a man with a new baby!!! Do you know about the '57 that's over between Sidney and Walton? Better shape than this, with a supposedly running 325 poly... prob could be had for 3-400 and prob still there... I put it on here a year or 2 ago but no one was interested... Roger | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | hey roger can u send me the info on that one?? jeff | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | well got it in the shop and started to clean it out and check to see how bad or good she is trunk floor has 9 pinholes front frame is a little ragged but not to bad the fenders and hood are junk i got out a seat of really nice inner fenders and core support to see if they fit anyone have any idea on the odd vin its **7799 what are the stars does that mean anything? Edited by fast59desoto 2008-11-16 9:53 PM (1958dodge trunk.JPG) (1958dodge trunk2.JPG) (1958dodge trunk3.JPG) (1958dodgevin.JPG) (1958dodgeunderhood.JPG) (1958dodgeunderhood2.JPG) (1958dodgeunderhood3.JPG) (frame.JPG) (frame2.JPG) (frame pinhole.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 1958dodge trunk.JPG (268KB - 92 downloads) 1958dodge trunk2.JPG (249KB - 100 downloads) 1958dodge trunk3.JPG (199KB - 99 downloads) 1958dodgevin.JPG (171KB - 166 downloads) 1958dodgeunderhood.JPG (267KB - 112 downloads) 1958dodgeunderhood2.JPG (250KB - 104 downloads) 1958dodgeunderhood3.JPG (222KB - 104 downloads) frame.JPG (203KB - 91 downloads) frame2.JPG (148KB - 96 downloads) frame pinhole.JPG (238KB - 101 downloads) | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 378 Location: hampton mn | d500neil, I think they used the same lenses even if the car was not optioned with reverse lights. I had a 54 chevy like that before. The reverse lights and sockets were not installed. | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | thats a pic i forgot to post i took a pic of the taillight socket and the terminated backup light socket (taillight and backup.JPG) Attachments ---------------- taillight and backup.JPG (74KB - 97 downloads) | ||
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Location: The Mile High City | Hi, Jeff: Nice find! That front clip is a sight! Luckily, the front clip is fairly easy to replace. Hopefully, the bad rust ends on the front side of the cowl. It would be fun to see another budget restoration of a '58 Dodge on the site. The DeSoto Jim had ended up here in Colorado with a site member named Tim. You are right, the strippers are a lot of fun! Oh, and I don't see a single option on it. It looks like this is truly the base price Dodge for 1958 - $2,449! Edited by Lancer Mike 2008-11-16 11:32 PM | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | These kind of cars always have me wondering how they came to be. Was it a Dodge dealer that wanted to have a really cheap car on the lot ? Did someone walk in and really wanted a Dodge but only had a Plymouth budget ? When I was down at Big M in October, I was showing him my photo albums and one car in particular - a monotone el strippo 57 DeSoto Firedome convertible. The cheapest DeSoto ragtop you could buy. Even had a 3-speed stick behind that 341 ! Can you imagine how that car came to be ordered ? I would love to hear the stories behind these oddballs. | ||
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Regular Posts: 89 Location: Melbourne, Australia | Hey you can do it!!! these cars when found in this condition, depend on the love and enthusiasm of its finder/keeper, it would be a shame to see this rare beast go to waste, I shes down on her knees at present but she could be tuff! real tuff! I find part of the fun owning such a project is dealing with all the comments oh you wont get her going or gee that thing's a sh%tbox etc and then sticking it up in the end with the finished product!!! I rather see rust than unwated bondo covering up poor body work and rust! I hope she hits the road in the near future! cheers Chris. | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | well went out tonight and started taking it apart some more decided to pull the head off it came off fairly easy the number 6 piston was fuul of water so we put the breaker bar on it and pulled it over and low and behold the engine wasnt seized!!! there was no rust in the bore ither no valves were stuck so after i get a carb,dist,starter and get the plug remnants out of the head and change the oil cap rotor plugs points condenser and wires ill fire it up budget budget budget!! lol Edited by fast59desoto 2008-11-17 6:48 PM | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Well, then: this car STILL is the only complete-stripper 57-59 Dodge that I've ever seen. The wiring blockoffs to the back up lights are pretty clear as to the lack of them. I'd at least retrofit a second set of brake lights to this car. AND: LOL; the complete lack of options will really simplify and reduce the overall costs of restoring this blue-bomber! At least it's not black, or white, or gray! Edited by d500neil 2008-11-17 7:42 PM | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | From NEIL... (PICT6.jpg) (PICT7.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PICT6.jpg (107KB - 92 downloads) PICT7.jpg (106KB - 90 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | OOPS! those two pics need to go 'on' the Fender tag board...but, they do show what the general style of the 58 Coronet interior looked like, so, they are not really out of place on this thread. Edited by d500neil 2008-11-17 8:39 PM | ||
fast59desoto |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 929 Location: Finger Lakes NY | its also got the rare invisible gas pedal Edited by fast59desoto 2008-11-17 9:14 PM (1958dodgefloor.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 1958dodgefloor.JPG (202KB - 109 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1918 Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Ever tell you of the time a co-worker was detailing a '69 Mustang ragtop and put his foot through the rear driver's floorboard? | ||
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