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Posted 2010-10-26 10:16 PM (#247186)
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Posted 2010-10-28 2:48 AM (#247364 - in reply to #247186)
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Posted 2010-10-28 4:18 AM (#247370 - in reply to #247186)
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Text and pics of the ad, in case someone later on wants to check back on this 'unwanted' car...


To be offered at auction WITHOUT RESERVE ,Saturday, November 13, 2010
Chassis No.
50419195
Estimate:
$250,000-$325,000 US
345 bhp, 345 cu. in. Hemi V-8 with dual quads, automatic transmission with pushbutton shifter on dash, independent torsion bar front suspension, Hotchkiss style 8¾-inch rear axle with 3.54:1 differential gears, gold turbine look full wheel covers. Wheelbase: 126"

- One of the finest restored examples ever offered for sale
- The product of a cost-no-object, four-year restoration by Gilbert Probes
- The top-of-the-line example from the DeSoto lineup for 1957

“The perfect rust-free body if ever there was one,” is how Milton Robson describes this 1957 DeSoto Adventurer convertible. “When I bought it, the car had original paint. There was a little primer showing through the tops of the fenders.” He found this extremely rare DeSoto in a warehouse in California, where the climate had been very kind to the car after so many years.

Finding such a low-production, highly sought-after performance car from the 1950s was high excitement. For Robson, there was no more desirable DeSoto ever built than this model. One could go as far as to say that the DeSoto Adventurer is an American “exotic” from the 1950s.

With the division’s top Hemi V-8 under the hood, the Adventurer was an early muscle car with a set of the most aesthetically pleasing tail fins ever seen on virtually any car. Introduced in mid-model year 1956, the Adventurer was DeSoto’s top-of-the-line performance flagship. However, the ’56 Adventurer came out at the tail end of a generation of DeSotos with a more bulbous shape. The newly engineered 1957 ushered in a new “Forward Look” for all Chrysler Corporation models in a longer, lower and wider package. The 1957s have stood the test of time. In the 1950s, fins were de rigueur and echoed the public’s fascination with the possibility of space travel. The ’57 model Plymouth, Dodge, Chryslers and DeSotos had the appearance of a sleek rocket, ready to blast off.

DeSoto introduced their 1957 Adventurer in December of 1956, two months after debuting the other models. Traditional launch in those days was late September to early October. Obviously, DeSoto did not want their very special Adventurer to share the spotlight with the bread and butter sedans and coupes.

Based on the Fireflite, the Adventurer came with specified color combinations of white with black and a gold side sweep and roof or gold with a white or black side sweep and roof. DeSoto used ample doses on the car for more identification, such as the grille mesh being gold anodized. The “DESOTO” letters on the front of the hood are gold, as is the stylized DeSoto emblem on the middle of the hood. In past model years, this emblem had been a fairly accurate depiction of Hernando DeSoto’s coat of arms.

On the 1957 Adventurer, they diluted the lines for this famous logo. Recognized as the first European to cross the Mississippi River, DeSoto was the ultimate Adventurer in North America, and hence the Adventurer became the ultimate DeSoto. This logo also appears in gold on the black center of the full wheel covers. DeSoto called these covers “Turbine” style. Painted gold, they lend a real show car appearance, and no other car had them.

More gold “DESOTO” lettering appears on the rear decklid. Five stainless steel strips accent the top of the trunk. The most stylish identification comes on the sides of the tailfins where the Adventurer logo appears written in flowing style with letters joined together. Just ahead of this cursive script is a logo featuring crossed flags and a gold V accented by gold wings. Another Adventurer crest appears on each front fender, just ahead of the doors. In the center of this emblem is the highly diluted, but regal, Hernando DeSoto coat of arms. Uniquely, every Adventurer convertible top was gold.

Inside the ****pit, DeSoto inset the light gold seats (60/40 up front) with gold and white tweed in the seated portion of the benches, front and rear. They carried this theme into the door panels. The labor-intensive stitched pattern of the upper door panels reveals the workmanship of the American auto industry of the 1950s. DeSoto had a reputation for building interiors of early American parlor quality and ambience. The Adventurer bridged the gap between old American charm, the rocket age of tailfins and the impending horsepower race.

DeSoto gave special attention to the engine. The Hemi in the Fireflite was a 295-horsepower, 341-cubic inch V-8 with a single four-barrel carburetor. DeSoto engineers bored the 341 to 345 cubic inches and installed dual quads to produce 345 horsepower, or one horsepower per cubic inch. DeSoto showcased this achievement in their Adventurer, the same as Chrysler did with their “300.”

Essentially, the DeSoto was the division’s flagship, offered in coupe and convertible body styles. There were no four-door sedans. The Adventurer was to DeSoto what the “300” letter series was to Chrysler. Both were the top performance models and tested top speed on the sands at Daytona. No doubt, the new-for-1957 torsion bar front suspension (springs in the back) helped these two tons of gorgeous tailfins maneuver down the road. They were heavy duty on the Adventurer.

The Adventurer coupe retailed for $3,997 in base form. The Adventurer convertible was the highest priced DeSoto in the lineup at $4,272. Options such as a record player (called the Hi-Way Hi-Fi), electric windows and six-way power seat pushed the price up even further. Every Adventurer came with the famous push-button automatic transmission. Factory records show DeSoto built exactly 1,650 Adventurer coupes and 300 Adventurer convertibles in 1957. Milton sought out a convertible due to its rarity and more glamorous body style.

Starting with what might have been the very best combination of rust-free body and chassis in a 1957 Adventurer, Robson sent the car to Gilbert Probes for a four-year, ground-up restoration.

Milton is not prone to hyperbole, but of this 1957 DeSoto he said, “Gilbert Probes restored this car for me, took about four years. He is particular as hell. I believe this is without a doubt the finest one in the world.” The car has remained in absolutely perfect condition. It needs nothing and is show ready and road worthy in every respect. It is hard, if not impossible, to argue with Milton’s description of this particular example. This is without question the finest example RM Auctions has ever had the pleasure of offering for sale.
Advert Type: For Sale by Auction
Category: Classic Cars
Make: DeSoto
Model: Adventurer Convertible
Year: 1957
Country: USA
Region: International
Telephone: +1 519 352 4575
Status: Trade
E-mail: Contact Advertiser via Email
Listing Date: 26-Oct-2010







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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2010-10-28 6:55 AM (#247377 - in reply to #247186)
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I have to admit.....IMO these look much better in black or even white. Of course, I sure wouln't kick this one out of the garage!!!
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Posted 2010-10-28 8:29 AM (#247379 - in reply to #247186)
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That car is absolutely STUNNING...
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Jason413
Posted 2010-10-28 8:52 AM (#247380 - in reply to #247377)
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sidesho_bob1961 - 2010-10-28 6:55 AM

I have to admit.....IMO these look much better in black or even white. Of course, I sure wouln't kick this one out of the garage!!!


I agree. I prefer to add a hardtop also.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2010-10-28 11:28 AM (#247397 - in reply to #247380)
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Whoa! This looks like it was restored to a condition even better than when it rolled off the assembly line! A rare case where the "puffery" in the auction house description is not quite up to the car! Absolutely fantastic!
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Posted 2010-10-28 2:15 PM (#247423 - in reply to #247397)
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Lancer Mike - 2010-10-28 8:28 AM

Whoa! This looks like it was restored to a condition even better than when it rolled off the assembly line! A rare case where the "puffery" in the auction house description is not quite up to the car! Absolutely fantastic!


I concur, Mike!

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Windsor59
Posted 2010-10-28 3:35 PM (#247431 - in reply to #247423)
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I remember a Gold/white (same color) Adventure 57 convertible in Sweden for 20 years ago. The owner was Arne Nilsson and he renovaiting the car in mint conditions. But after some yrars a man from Saudarabien bought the Adventure.
Think it's the best looking color at Adventure 57
Is this combination of 58 and 59 DeSoto Adventure??


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57desoto
Posted 2010-10-29 6:45 AM (#247490 - in reply to #247186)
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Windsor59, I didn't know that Arne didn't still have the car! Do you have any idea who the owner in Saudia Arabia is? I'd like to correct my 1957 DeSoto database. You may reply to desoto@pathway.net if you'd prefer, instead of posting here. Thank you.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-10-29 6:49 AM (#247491 - in reply to #247431)
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56-59 Adventurers offered three colors, white, black, and gold ...... pick two. This made for six color
combinations. Most were white with gold sweep and roof. Technically, you could get a black car with a
white sweep and roof, but I have never seen one. I have seen a white/back 56. It resided in New Orleans,
last I heard, but that was well over 10 years ago.
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Posted 2010-10-29 8:18 AM (#247493 - in reply to #247491)
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Thanks Doctor DeSoto for the color info.

I talked to Arne about DeSoton 2 years ago.
He said he wondered how it was with DeSoton and tried to contact the new owner Saudarbien but had no contact with him, unfortunately
Think Arne sold it for about 17-20 years ago

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Boris56
Posted 2010-10-29 11:04 AM (#247503 - in reply to #247491)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2010-10-29 6:49 AM

56-59 Adventurers offered three colors, white, black, and gold ...... pick two. This made for six color
combinations. Most were white with gold sweep and roof. Technically, you could get a black car with a
white sweep and roof, but I have never seen one. I have seen a white/back 56. It resided in New Orleans,
last I heard, but that was well over 10 years ago.


Were many built in gold with a black sweep/roof?
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-10-29 1:01 PM (#247511 - in reply to #247503)
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I believe it was Leslie Howard who showed me photos of an unrestored 56 Adventurer in gold with
a black sweep and roof, but my memory is fuzzy on that. I have never seen any other year in that
combination.

As for how many were built, if such numbers exist, they are buried in the CHS archives and would
require quite a fishing expedition to flush them out !

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Posted 2010-10-29 5:23 PM (#247523 - in reply to #247186)
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To enhance what the good Dr said

1956 Adventurers were offered in combinations of black, white and gold. I believe the NDC newsletter has featured pictures of all 6 combinations

1957 Adventurer definitely offered white/gold, gold/white, black/gold and gold/black. Ed can verify if black/white, white/black were offered

1958 Adventurer offered white/gold and gold/white

1959 Adventurer offered Black (only) and White (only)
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Posted 2010-10-29 7:19 PM (#247533 - in reply to #247186)
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BEAUTIFUL car - I'm not a hubcap/wire wheel guy at all - steel wheels for me. I can, and do, appreciate caps and wires to
a point on some cars if the color is right for them (my opinion) - I gotta say, these are prob the worst lookin caps I've ever
laid my eyes upon. I know they are correct, and having a fancy schmancy Adventurer they are a must, but they look like
somethin that could be picked up at Walmart . . .


This car IS beautiful . . .



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57desoto
Posted 2010-10-29 8:15 PM (#247544 - in reply to #247533)
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57 Adventurer most common color white with gold roof/sweep, least common gold with black roof/sweep. The other 2 combinations available were gold with white roof/sweep, and black with gold roof/sweep. No white/black or black/white for Adventurers for 1957.
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Posted 2010-10-29 8:36 PM (#247550 - in reply to #247544)
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Here is a gold/black one.



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Posted 2010-10-30 2:56 AM (#247587 - in reply to #247523)
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59 explorer - 2010-10-30 2:23 PM

To enhance what the good Dr said

1956 Adventurers were offered in combinations of black, white and gold. I believe the NDC newsletter has featured pictures of all 6 combinations

1957 Adventurer definitely offered white/gold, gold/white, black/gold and gold/black. Ed can verify if black/white, white/black were offered

1958 Adventurer offered white/gold and gold/white

1959 Adventurer offered Black (only) and White (only)


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Where are you getting this information ?

My 58 Adventurer was black body with gold sweep.

Also, are we saying you absolutely could not get one in the black/white, white/black combo in 57 or 58 ?
.... or is it just so never seen that we are assuming this ?
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Posted 2010-10-30 8:45 AM (#247607 - in reply to #247186)
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About 20 years ago I found a gold body white sweep convertible with factory air in a single car garage outside of Sioux Falls SD. I made the deal to buy the car but the guy could not find a title. I insisted I needed a title since Iowa if such a pain in the rump about them so the deal fell through and the car sold to a guy in Minnesota (not Fertile) I am still kicking myself for not buying the car and finding the title later. It was missing 2 hubcaps but otherwise complete I think I remember hearing it was restored but the color combo was reversed. The gold main body with gold caps was just a bit much in my book but I would not have changed it.
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Posted 2010-10-31 6:48 PM (#247777 - in reply to #247607)
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This is my own favorite color combo on these.



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-11-01 12:47 PM (#247831 - in reply to #247777)
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My 58 had that color combo. It also had a black top. The car died in 1963. I kinda doubt the
top was replaced before that (?)
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57burb
Posted 2010-11-01 4:45 PM (#247854 - in reply to #247587)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2010-10-30 1:56 AM

Also, are we saying you absolutely could not get one in the black/white, white/black combo in 57 or 58 ?
.... or is it just so never seen that we are assuming this ?



The Adventurers all had gold paint on them for '56-58; none were built in only white/black. So, there were only four color combinations: white w/gold, gold w/white, black w/gold, and gold w/black. The '59s were either white or black cars and the side spear was gold anodized trim. And of course the '60s were available in any standard DeSoto color option.

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For some reason, I'm remembering a story about Tom White's '58 EFI Adventurer having been painted all-white from the factory as a pre-production assembly evaluation vehicle. If anyone can confirm or deny, please add it here, I don't want to spread any more misinformation than I already have!
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Posted 2010-11-01 9:41 PM (#247892 - in reply to #247186)
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Here is a picture of the Milton Robson car on the previous owner's driveway and prior to the restoration.  He did not purchase it out of long term warehouse storage in California like the auction information states.  It truly was a totally rust free unmolested car however.



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Posted 2010-11-01 9:50 PM (#247894 - in reply to #247854)
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......

For some reason, I'm remembering a story about Tom White's '58 EFI Adventurer having been painted all-white from the factory as a pre-production assembly evaluation vehicle. If anyone can confirm or deny, please add it here, I don't want to spread any more misinformation than I already have! :stressed:


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Tom and I crossed paths around 1990 +/- at the time he had just bought the car, and before all sorts of
stories got attached to it. At that time it was an all original paint gold car with white sweep.

Now, it is a "pilot car", purchased new by Jimmy Stewart and given to Marilyn Monroe, used as part of the
NASA space program, hand built of solid titanium by chimpanzees in a Harvard study program using design
drawings done by Jesus Christ, himself. Yeah

Has anyone ever seen the build card that confirms this is even a genuine F/I car ? Not to knock that it is a
super rare and wonderful car and that Tom White did a magnificent job of restoring it (and putting together
a working F/I system) But the auction hype that has developed around this car has certainly been embellished
since I first learned of it some 20 years ago.

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Lancer Mike
Posted 2010-11-01 10:58 PM (#247902 - in reply to #247894)
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I almost hate to ask: with the current "it's only original once - survivor" craze, do you think this '57 Adventurer convertible would be worth more before they restored it?

I know I like the "after" restoration car, but it is unusual to see a rust free unmolested car anymore...

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Posted 2010-11-02 1:30 AM (#247911 - in reply to #247902)
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The above profile shot is the reason why I fell in love with the 57-58 DeSoto convertible. To my eyes,
a post-war car never got any better than this.
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Posted 2010-11-02 9:28 AM (#247933 - in reply to #247380)
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Jason413 - 2010-10-28 8:52 AM

sidesho_bob1961 - 2010-10-28 6:55 AM

I have to admit.....IMO these look much better in black or even white. Of course, I sure wouln't kick this one out of the garage!!!


I agree. I prefer to add a hardtop also.


yep, a fl car without the gracefull sweeping airy hardtop roofline is only half the fun!
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Posted 2010-11-02 10:40 AM (#247941 - in reply to #247902)
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Lancer Mike - 2010-11-01 9:58 PM I almost hate to ask: with the current "it's only original once - survivor" craze, do you think this '57 Adventurer convertible would be worth more before they restored it? I know I like the "after" restoration car, but it is unusual to see a rust free unmolested car anymore...

That is a very good question.  I'll attempt an answer.  Astute collectors are appreciating untouched cars more and more every year because factory build originality and authenticity is really never duplicated in a restoration.  In the case of that particular '57 Adventurer convertible selling from the Robson collection, here are some factors weighing on the answer:  the gold anodized wheelcovers were of adequate quality to remain unrestored, the convertible top had been replaced once and was again useless, the interior vinyl was good but the interior cloth was gone in the seats and rotting on the doors, chrome was excellent original, the engine had its spark plugs removed prior to long term storage and they put in oil but did not replace the plugs and it had rusted stuck and required rebuilding, there were paint touch-ups around the car from scratches etc and they weren't great matches.  Probably the most awesome original area of the car was the undercarriage which was never factory undercoated, could be wiped clean with kerosene and hand waxed over the factory gray primer sealer!  

A couple of interesting points about the car are that it was a high optioned Adventurer with unusual additions of an early limited slip (pre-Sure-Grip) 8.75 rear end, heavy duty torsion bars, rear HD leaf springs and HD shocks (Adventurers did NOT have HD suspension standard) and it had the steering wheel watch plus the dashboard clock.

At the time the car was sold I think anyone would have said the car needed /required /deserved a restoration.  Today with literally no comparable original examples left, one would have to hedge that answer though it is still short of, let's say AACA acceptance for Historical Preservation of Features judging class.  In another ten years, this car, unrestored, might have had an unusual value premium as a reference car.

All that said, it is going to be very interesting to see the no reserve sales price of this particular excellently restored car.

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Posted 2010-11-02 11:51 AM (#247953 - in reply to #247941)
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I know that some people here are against having Chrysler wire wheels on any '57+ Mopar, but the profile photo of that Adventurer is all the justification I need. Those wheels make a nice car absolutely sensational!

Thanks for sharing the photo, SOT...
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Posted 2010-11-02 2:27 PM (#247980 - in reply to #247953)
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I wonder if any Adventurers in Black and Gold were bought new by Texas Oil Men, at the time ( Black Gold / Texas Tea ! )
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2010-11-03 11:54 AM (#248083 - in reply to #247941)
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Thanks, Wayne - I know if the "before" car and the "after" car were magically side-by-side for the same price, I would choose the "after" car without hesitation in this case.

We have all seen poor restorations of nice original cars in our time, but this restoration looks completed to the highest possible standards. I guess the "before" condition for this car wasn't absolutely pristine or they would not have restored it.
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Posted 2010-11-03 4:29 PM (#248123 - in reply to #247186)
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Yeahbutt....in it's so-so condition, at least the car could have been DRIVEN and enjoyed, without depreciating the
monetary investment in it.

Snot much chance that this car will ever get its wheelwells wet, again.

Another FWDLK'er off of the road.




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Posted 2010-11-03 4:57 PM (#248130 - in reply to #248123)
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d500neil - 2010-11-03 2:29 PM
Snot much chance that this car will ever get its wheelwells wet, again.

Another FWDLK'er off of the road.


Sad, but true! For the price, a person would have to be either very wealthy, slightly cracked, or both to go out and drive with all of the texting latte-swillers out there.

Speaking of price, any guesses?

Mine: $187,275.00
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If the 'winner' is the guesser who does NOT exceed the actual high-bid amount, my SWAG will be $125K.





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Posted 2010-11-03 6:08 PM (#248142 - in reply to #248130)
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I would have no problem driving that car. You only live once.
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Posted 2010-11-03 9:24 PM (#248182 - in reply to #247186)
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Danny; Step-1 is having well over $100Large in very-disposable dinero, to acquire this car.

If you've got that much scratch, you've got a LOT of other cars that you could/can drive around, instead of this one,
which could be trailered to where ever you wanted it to go (while you private-planed, to meet up with it, 'there').

Unless you are a J. Leno-type, with paid employees who have nothing else to do but to maintain your fleet of cars,
'you' are not likely to depreciate your financial investment in this particular car, by getting it dinged and dirty.

This is what "money" does; guess what...."walks" ?????





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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-11-04 2:30 AM (#248207 - in reply to #248182)
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I will restore my car and I will drive it, road dings, oil leaks, and all. I consider this the TRUE
dividing line between car enthusiasts and car collectors. One wants to see them on the road, the
other, .... well, I really don't know what they want, except to maybe use that car as a tool to draw
attention to themselves.

I would rather own that Adventurer as a refurbish-as-you-go original than a pristinely restored
car. The road dings and not-so-perfect paint are part of the essential character of a real car, as
opposed to a garage floor "paperweight" that is too "perfect" to "risk" putting wear on.
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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2010-11-04 7:04 AM (#248209 - in reply to #247186)
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Anyone who would drop $170,000 to buy this car obivously has money to burn. That being said, to them $150,000 is like $40,000 to people like you and me. They probably are buying it purely for investment, which is a shame. If I would ever become wealthy and say, purchase a rare forward look "museum piece", I'd drive it. Why not??? It's not like you'd have to sell it in 6 months to buy groceries, you would then be in the "wealthy" class!!! Who cares if in 20 years from now you could "only" sell it for $120,000..........it's still less then I lost in the stock market over the last 6 years!!!

Same goes for the fuel injected 58 Adventurer Tom White restored.............DRIVE IT!!!!!!
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Posted 2010-11-04 9:06 AM (#248215 - in reply to #248142)
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57burb - 2010-11-03 6:08 PM

I would have no problem driving that car. You only live once.



I agree 100% - DRIVE UM ! ! ! Sideshow has the right idea too - DRIVE UM

Cars is fer drivin . . . .

$136k . . .



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hemidave
Posted 2010-11-04 12:48 PM (#248228 - in reply to #247186)
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The Adventurer conv at the '57 Heaven Auction brought a hefty price, so I wonder if this one could be bought for under 200? I also would rather a "driver", but they seem to be fairly impossible to find. Anybody have a driver they would be willing to sell for a reasonable price?
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Posted 2010-11-04 1:10 PM (#248230 - in reply to #248209)
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sidesho_bob1961 - 2010-11-04 7:04 AM

That being said, to them $150,000 is like $40,000 to people like you and me.


"People like you and me" are a lot farther down that ladder!

For many potential buyers $150K is POCKET CHANGE. There are private car collections in this country worth $100 Million.

Sparky
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-11-04 2:10 PM (#248238 - in reply to #248230)
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I have heard it said that "You don't have a spending problem, you have an earning problem!"

Perhaps such a perspective could be useful here ? We all have our jobs, we all make "X" amount
of money. If a car such as this is so important, perhaps some "adjustments" are in order in our life
to make this come about ? I'm not in Afghanistan because I like the weather. I am here because it
was going to take me ten years to finish my shop, house, and car. I make in one year what I could
in five back home. This place is a hell hole. I miss my wife. I could get dead on any mission. But
sacrifices have to be made to get ahead and this one worked well for me. This is just one option.
Going back to school, cutting back on other expenses, whatever it might be, sacrifice and effort can
make a car like this happen for anyone if they want it bad enough.

Just a thought.
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d500neil
Posted 2010-11-04 9:31 PM (#248262 - in reply to #247186)
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"The rich are different from you and me" [F.S. Fitzgerald].




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Posted 2010-11-05 4:56 PM (#248351 - in reply to #248262)
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<----click pics larger----> <----click pics larger---->




Arne Nilsson's car featured in Power Magazine 4/1991, before it 'vanished' to Saudi. The article says there were 2 of these cars in Sweden at that time.

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d500neil
Posted 2010-11-05 7:29 PM (#248367 - in reply to #247186)
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...Any questions?

Is this the 'same' car, as the one, above?






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Posted 2010-11-06 9:32 AM (#248448 - in reply to #247186)
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Different car.
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hemidave
Posted 2010-11-13 2:46 PM (#249396 - in reply to #247186)
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The Adventurer conv sold for $310,000.00 this afternoon.
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Posted 2010-11-13 3:06 PM (#249399 - in reply to #249396)
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hemidave - 2010-11-13 2:46 PM

The Adventurer conv sold for $310,000.00 this afternoon.



WOW That's a big number . . .



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d500neil
Posted 2010-11-13 4:18 PM (#249401 - in reply to #249399)
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310 PLUS commission???

How much, total buying cost?

YEAH----it's gonna get to be driven a LOT by someone who can afford to drop that much money on it....

The 57 D500 (fake Super-D) red/white vert sold for $195K plus commission(IIRC) at the 57 Heaven auction,
earlier this year---and it had the wrong (-hard top) interior in it, too.









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